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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2022 14:03:48 GMT
340 was awarded on a 7 year contract, so won't be using the 13reg VHS as they wouldn't be compliant for a 7 year contract when the contract starts. 340 should be using vehicles between 5-8 years old. RATP are probably quite keen to withdraw the VDWs, being a small batch of a non-standard type, Is this a guess or do you actually know if they're non standard or not - correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure B9TL's share many common parts with B5LH's outside of the hybrid system, especially with the 13 reg VH's
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2022 14:43:06 GMT
RATP are probably quite keen to withdraw the VDWs, being a small batch of a non-standard type, Is this a guess or do you actually know if they're non standard or not - correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure B9TL's share many common parts with B5LH's outside of the hybrid system, especially with the 13 reg VH's Lots of assumptions being made about the VDWs. Hope they stay around personally it’s nice variety.
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 29, 2022 16:42:30 GMT
Is this a guess or do you actually know if they're non standard or not - correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure B9TL's share many common parts with B5LH's outside of the hybrid system, especially with the 13 reg VH's Lots of assumptions being made about the VDWs. Hope they stay around personally it’s nice variety. Also you have to remember VDWs certainly aren’t non standard to Westbourne Park, they’ve been dealing with them for years, can’t see it as a reason for them rushing to withdraw them.
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 29, 2022 16:48:18 GMT
218 X > V from 15th October 228 X > RP from 15th October
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Post by transportizm on Sept 29, 2022 16:52:55 GMT
Seen LB71OAE in High Street Kensington today and also a BE (don't know which ones) in Clapham Junction. I am assuming there might be driver training perhaps.
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Post by abellion on Sept 29, 2022 17:41:09 GMT
Is this a guess or do you actually know if they're non standard or not - correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure B9TL's share many common parts with B5LH's outside of the hybrid system, especially with the 13 reg VH's Lots of assumptions being made about the VDWs. Hope they stay around personally it’s nice variety. It’s a shame they don’t often stray off the 452.
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Post by transportizm on Sept 29, 2022 19:15:00 GMT
Lots of assumptions being made about the VDWs. Hope they stay around personally it’s nice variety. It’s a shame they don’t often stray off the 452. They did the 28 sometimes actually.
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Post by andyc on Sept 30, 2022 6:24:47 GMT
218 X > V from 15th October 228 X > RP from 15th October Actually from 29th October
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Post by andyc on Sept 30, 2022 6:30:34 GMT
Lots of assumptions being made about the VDWs. Hope they stay around personally it’s nice variety. Also you have to remember VDWs certainly aren’t non standard to Westbourne Park, they’ve been dealing with them for years, can’t see it as a reason for them rushing to withdraw them. Whilst speculation makes the world go around, the VDWs are not in the firing line for withdrawal, and as it stands will stay with the 452 until the completion of the contract. The spare OMEs are now contracted to the 28, so are now part of the usual allocation. The VHs made spare will firstly cover the 295 when it arrives, along with other VHs (including 45081-5) coming from the electrification (imminent) of 125. They will then head off to a new home once the 295 buses are available for service. VH450&1-8 are earmarked for the 340, along with a couple of ADHs becoming spare from 142/H14, so all will enter refurbishment once the 295 is electrified… That should be enough to keep you going for now!
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Post by ADH45258 on Sept 30, 2022 9:48:25 GMT
Also you have to remember VDWs certainly aren’t non standard to Westbourne Park, they’ve been dealing with them for years, can’t see it as a reason for them rushing to withdraw them. Whilst speculation makes the world go around, the VDWs are not in the firing line for withdrawal, and as it stands will stay with the 452 until the completion of the contract. The spare OMEs are now contracted to the 28, so are now part of the usual allocation. The VHs made spare will firstly cover the 295 when it arrives, along with other VHs (including 45081-5) coming from the electrification (imminent) of 125. They will then head off to a new home once the 295 buses are available for service. VH450&1-8 are earmarked for the 340, along with a couple of ADHs becoming spare from 142/H14, so all will enter refurbishment once the 295 is electrified… That should be enough to keep you going for now! Presumably the 452's allocation is currently a mix of WHs, VMHs and VDWs. If this is correct, are there any plans for the BU16 VHs once the 295 gets its electrics? Perhaps the 203 could be converted to DDs if retained? Also guessing the refurbishment only applies to the ADHs, as the 13reg VHs have only recently been done for the 28.
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Post by andyc on Sept 30, 2022 10:10:03 GMT
Whilst speculation makes the world go around, the VDWs are not in the firing line for withdrawal, and as it stands will stay with the 452 until the completion of the contract. The spare OMEs are now contracted to the 28, so are now part of the usual allocation. The VHs made spare will firstly cover the 295 when it arrives, along with other VHs (including 45081-5) coming from the electrification (imminent) of 125. They will then head off to a new home once the 295 buses are available for service. VH450&1-8 are earmarked for the 340, along with a couple of ADHs becoming spare from 142/H14, so all will enter refurbishment once the 295 is electrified… That should be enough to keep you going for now! Presumably the 452's allocation is currently a mix of WHs, VMHs and VDWs. If this is correct, are there any plans for the BU16 VHs once the 295 gets its electrics? Perhaps the 203 could be converted to DDs if retained? Also guessing the refurbishment only applies to the ADHs, as the 13reg VHs have only recently been done for the 28. Vh45081-8 are to be refurbished for the 340.
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Post by dragonman on Sept 30, 2022 11:17:37 GMT
Also you have to remember VDWs certainly aren’t non standard to Westbourne Park, they’ve been dealing with them for years, can’t see it as a reason for them rushing to withdraw them. Whilst speculation makes the world go around, the VDWs are not in the firing line for withdrawal, and as it stands will stay with the 452 until the completion of the contract. The spare OMEs are now contracted to the 28, so are now part of the usual allocation. The VHs made spare will firstly cover the 295 when it arrives, along with other VHs (including 45081-5) coming from the electrification (imminent) of 125. They will then head off to a new home once the 295 buses are available for service. VH450&1-8 are earmarked for the 340, along with a couple of ADHs becoming spare from 142/H14, so all will enter refurbishment once the 295 is electrified… That should be enough to keep you going for now! will be interesting to see where the 13 reg VHs that are made spare from the 28 will go to, once they're no longer needed for the 295. I know routes like the E3 and 340 have already been suggested, but any other ideas apart from this?
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Sept 30, 2022 12:47:36 GMT
Whilst speculation makes the world go around, the VDWs are not in the firing line for withdrawal, and as it stands will stay with the 452 until the completion of the contract. The spare OMEs are now contracted to the 28, so are now part of the usual allocation. The VHs made spare will firstly cover the 295 when it arrives, along with other VHs (including 45081-5) coming from the electrification (imminent) of 125. They will then head off to a new home once the 295 buses are available for service. VH450&1-8 are earmarked for the 340, along with a couple of ADHs becoming spare from 142/H14, so all will enter refurbishment once the 295 is electrified… That should be enough to keep you going for now! Presumably the 452's allocation is currently a mix of WHs, VMHs and VDWs. If this is correct, are there any plans for the BU16 VHs once the 295 gets its electrics? Perhaps the 203 could be converted to DDs if retained? Also guessing the refurbishment only applies to the ADHs, as the 13reg VHs have only recently been done for the 28. I don't see 203 being converted to double deck at this time.
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Post by snowman on Sept 30, 2022 17:53:01 GMT
What I’m interested to see is where the 142’s ADEs will end up if the rumour that the H91’s VHs ending up on the H98 is true. On the topic of ADEs, since the 220 has been retained with its batch, does this mean they’re due for another refurb? The 220 was awarded with a shorter contract than is normal these days, and other routes reach their contract expiry earlier, so there is a fair chance that the buses might get replaced during the contract by something displaced elsewhere.
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Post by COBO on Sept 30, 2022 19:49:13 GMT
Is the H11 going back to SO?
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