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Post by londonbuses184 on Oct 29, 2022 8:55:02 GMT
Wow. I can't wait until this allocation mess is sorted out by RATP. I don't think I've ever seen anything this complicated. I would have thought the DEs on the 228 are temporary. They should be temporary until the 226 gets electrics. The StreetLites will probably be for the 226 temporarily also.
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Post by borneobus on Oct 29, 2022 12:33:48 GMT
BCE47126 now in service, first day out and on the 183. Just BCE47132 & BCE47133 have not yet entered service from the batch that totals 127 (BCE47030-BCE47156).
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Post by YX10FFN on Oct 29, 2022 15:35:30 GMT
It will be interesting to see how RATP run the 295 as it is long, busy and congested and X hasnβt been the best with the 13 or 28. So far, tough start. Metroline were all over the place yesterday so it is definitely the route which causes problems.
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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 29, 2022 17:24:19 GMT
According to LOTS all of the WLSs have been stood down for now. The rumour is the 226 will use them when it's taken over. Judging by the fact that RATP seem to be eliminating non-standard buses, I wonder if the 7 Streetdecks are next... I was wondering that too. 203 would take some of the H91s VHs and the rest could be used to replace the Streetdecks? This of course is just speculation.
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Post by COBO on Oct 29, 2022 17:48:41 GMT
The 228 and 218 got there DEs because the 72 and 33 are using BEs from the 235. So what happens when the 235 gets its BEs back π
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Post by WH241 on Oct 29, 2022 17:51:51 GMT
The 228 and 218 got there DEs because the 72 and 33 are using BEs from the 235. So what happens when the 235 gets its BEs back π They still have the Streelites which have only been temporarily stood down. Also the DLEs would become spare when the BEs enter service on the 235.
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Post by COBO on Oct 29, 2022 17:57:44 GMT
The 228 and 218 got there DEs because the 72 and 33 are using BEs from the 235. So what happens when the 235 gets its BEs back π They still have the Streelites which have only been temporarily stood down. Also the DLEs would become spare when the BEs enter service on the 235. But the StreetLite might permanently be withdrawn.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Oct 29, 2022 18:01:37 GMT
The 228 and 218 got there DEs because the 72 and 33 are using BEs from the 235. So what happens when the 235 gets its BEs back π Predictions: - The BE's immediately move to the 235
- The DLE's on the 235 return to the K3
- The K3 60regs return to the 33
- The remaining 235 DLE's return to the 303
- The DE's covering on the 303 transfer to the 72
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Oct 29, 2022 18:03:23 GMT
They still have the Streelites which have only been temporarily stood down. Also the DLEs would become spare when the BEs enter service on the 235. But the StreetLite might permanently be withdrawn. I highly doubt it, the 218 could permanently keep its DE's but the 228 will need WLS's back - also the other vehicles could move elsewhere. I'm sure that some use could be made of them.
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Post by londonbuses184 on Oct 29, 2022 18:09:12 GMT
They still have the Streelites which have only been temporarily stood down. Also the DLEs would become spare when the BEs enter service on the 235. But the StreetLite might permanently be withdrawn. That's not happening! They're temporarily going off for the 226 when it passes to RATP in January and when the 226 gets its own electrics then the Streetlites can be used on the 228 again. They can also use this time to refurb the Streetlites before the 226 passes to RATP.
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Post by COBO on Oct 29, 2022 18:13:47 GMT
But the StreetLite might permanently be withdrawn. That's not happening! They're temporarily going off for the 226 when it passes to RATP in January and when the 226 gets its own electrics then the Streetlites can be used on the 228 again. They can also use this time to refurb the Streetlites before the 226 passes to RATP. Why would they be refurbished?
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Post by londonbuses184 on Oct 29, 2022 18:15:25 GMT
That's not happening! They're temporarily going off for the 226 when it passes to RATP in January and when the 226 gets its own electrics then the Streetlites can be used on the 228 again. They can also use this time to refurb the Streetlites before the 226 passes to RATP. Why would they be refurbished? To get rid of the old TT moquette
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Post by vjaska on Oct 29, 2022 18:57:24 GMT
Why would they be refurbished? To get rid of the old TT moquette That will only happen if the vehicles are retained with a new contract
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Post by WH241 on Oct 29, 2022 19:08:32 GMT
Why would they be refurbished? To get rid of the old TT moquette This comes up time and time again. Why would they spend money refurbishing them just to get rid of TT moquette? buses are nearly always only refurbished for tender renewals.
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Post by WH241 on Oct 29, 2022 19:09:03 GMT
They still have the Streelites which have only been temporarily stood down. Also the DLEs would become spare when the BEs enter service on the 235. But the StreetLite might permanently be withdrawn. But they are not so its speculation for speculation sake.
From LOTS
1) 29th October saw the transfer of route 295 from Metroline to RATP (at X). Together with electrification (at last) of route 125 at Edgware, this triggered very many vehicle transfers to get enough VHs for the 295. Additionally the transfer out of X of routes 218 (to V) and 228 (to RP) occurred on the 289th, having been deferred since 15th October. RATPβs StreetLites (WLS 30027Β-040) at X were all stood down for now.
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