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Post by Volvo on Mar 24, 2011 21:13:50 GMT
Not directly relevant to the late delivery of the Tempos, but yesterday Optare announced an order for Manchester which includes 12m Versas, previously longest was 11.1m (of which only Quality Line has some on a TfL service) As versas seem to come in 9.7m, 10.4m and 11.1m I could understand another 0.7m module taking it upto 11.8m What I'm thinking is if the versa is a lot cheaper than the aluminium tempo, would many companies go for it where TfL requires a 65-70 seat bus (but where a double decker can't be used or routes which carriy many who wont (or cant) go upstairs) www.optare.com/pr_21_03_11.htmany thoughts ? NO single decker bus has 65 -70 seats, you mean 65 - 70 passengers. |
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Post by ajw on Mar 25, 2011 2:59:10 GMT
NO single decker bus has 65 -70 seats, you mean 65 - 70 passengers. Whilst your point (about the count being passengers rather than seats) is most correct, your bit about no single decker having 65-70 seats is wrong. Where I am at the moment (Canberra) we have single deckers with 69 seats. Of course they are 18m long and bend in the middle. We also have some single deckers that don't bend in the middle that have 57+ seats, these are 14.5m long and have 3 axles. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 25, 2011 10:41:15 GMT
NO single decker bus has 65 -70 seats, you mean 65 - 70 passengers. Whilst your point (about the count being passengers rather than seats) is most correct, your bit about no single decker having 65-70 seats is wrong. Where I am at the moment (Canberra) we have single deckers with 69 seats. Of course they are 18m long and bend in the middle. We also have some single deckers that don't bend in the middle that have 57+ seats, these are 14.5m long and have 3 axles. There are 67 seated single deckers in this country. Some Lynxs and Leopards were upseated for school contracts and there are some schoolbus Enviro 300's with similar capacity, think with 3+2 seating. |
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Post by deppy42 on Mar 30, 2011 20:43:27 GMT
Right, you NEVER quote anything from that site EVER. This is an official warning over this. Check your info out first before posting!! I will post when they actually arrive, hopefully the first is expected in about 10 days subject to Optare pulling their fingers out. We need the first one to do proper type training instead of the demo vehicle being used at the moment, which is a different spec. The first Tempo is due to arrive in the next few days (poss tomorrow) |
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Post by jamaal on Mar 30, 2011 20:49:08 GMT
I'm guessing its due to come into HH...?
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Post by Volvo on Mar 30, 2011 21:21:10 GMT
Whilst your point (about the count being passengers rather than seats) is most correct, your bit about no single decker having 65-70 seats is wrong. Where I am at the moment (Canberra) we have single deckers with 69 seats. Of course they are 18m long and bend in the middle. We also have some single deckers that don't bend in the middle that have 57+ seats, these are 14.5m long and have 3 axles. There are 67 seated single deckers in this country. Some Lynxs and Leopards were upseated for school contracts and there are some schoolbus Enviro 300's with similar capacity, think with 3+2 seating. I thought we were talking about standard 12m single deckers not 14.5 - 18m or school bus versions. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 31, 2011 0:03:16 GMT
There are 67 seated single deckers in this country. Some Lynxs and Leopards were upseated for school contracts and there are some schoolbus Enviro 300's with similar capacity, think with 3+2 seating. I thought we were talking about standard 12m single deckers not 14.5 - 18m or school bus versions. Your original post said 'No single deckers' which is why I've mentioned the Enviro 300 and Leyland Lynx in my original post as both are neither 14m or above. Both are standard vehicles. I also mentioned the Leyland Leopard though I'm not sure on it's length. Another two off the top of my head are ex Ministry of Defence Wadham Stringers and there are some Leyland Tigers that seat around 67. Apologies if this wasn't the info you wanted  |
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Post by Volvo on Mar 31, 2011 7:56:06 GMT
So sorry I should have been clearer but I thought we were talking about low floor tfl spec 12m single deckers for passenger service not old high floor leyland lynxs etc or enviro 300 school buses which is what the 3 + 2 seating is for. The post i quoted was talking about having 65 - 67 seat tfl spec single deckers were double deckers are no permitted. So sorry once again, my mistake.
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Post by deppy42 on Mar 31, 2011 20:54:33 GMT
I will post when they actually arrive, hopefully the first is expected in about 10 days subject to Optare pulling their fingers out. We need the first one to do proper type training instead of the demo vehicle being used at the moment, which is a different spec. The first Tempo is due to arrive in the next few days (poss tomorrow) I can now confirm OT1 (YJ11 EHG) and OT2 (YJ11 EHH) are now at HH. I would post a pic but can not remember how to do it!! |
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Post by ajw on Mar 31, 2011 21:30:12 GMT
There are 67 seated single deckers in this country. Some Lynxs and Leopards were upseated for school contracts and there are some schoolbus Enviro 300's with similar capacity, think with 3+2 seating. I thought we were talking about standard 12m single deckers not 14.5 - 18m or school bus versions. well you did make the broad sweeping statement that "NO single decker bus has 65 -70 seats", which isn't true no matter which way you look at it. |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 1, 2011 2:18:11 GMT
So sorry I should have been clearer but I thought we were talking about low floor tfl spec 12m single deckers for passenger service not old high floor leyland lynxs etc or enviro 300 school buses which is what the 3 + 2 seating is for. The post i quoted was talking about having 65 - 67 seat tfl spec single deckers were double deckers are no permitted. So sorry once again, my mistake. Don't worry about it, it's fine |
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Post by deppy42 on Apr 1, 2011 20:15:59 GMT
The first Tempo is due to arrive in the next few days (poss tomorrow) I can now confirm OT1 (YJ11 EHG) and OT2 (YJ11 EHH) are now at HH. I would post a pic but can not remember how to do it!! These have now been joined by OT3 & OT4. Date planned to first see them in service is Sat 9th April (but may change!). |
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Post by jamaal on Apr 1, 2011 23:53:31 GMT
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Post by Volvo on Apr 2, 2011 0:18:04 GMT
The link is broken so have to type it into web browser.
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Post by COBO on Apr 2, 2011 3:03:43 GMT
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