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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 16, 2024 12:02:44 GMT
enfielddispatch.co.uk/enfield-bus-routes-rank-among-least-reliable-in-london/ This is the best news I've heard this year. It's well known at the garage that it has been terribly run. Our 231 drivers, on some duties are required to take the 298 to Cockfosters, then the Piccadilly Line to Turnpike Lane....the 298 is rarely on time or doesn't turn up.I hear of regular occurances where only one driver is on the route. Personal experiences of regularly waiting 45 mins for a bus at Potters Bar Station before giving up and taking my car to Cockfosters instead. From an enthusiast point of view, it's bittersweet. I remember when Sullivans took over from Arriva (back in 2011) and being impressed by the shiny new AE's and how reliable the service was. Then the wide variety of vehicles found on the route over the years, I have fond memories of the lovely ALX6/TPL927/PDL26 and the ELV's making appearances on it. Wow is it really that bad. I’m surprised TFL have not got involved and removed the services from them. Maybe because they are clawing back money in fines. It appears the majority of their problems is down to staffing. I have known a few people that went there say that they were heavily understaffed and this even even before the pandemic. Even down to supervisors were doing extreme amount of hours and way more stuff than they would have done at another operator. Plus the money was not that much more than any other company. The biggest draw for many was the location to where they lived. This is always going to be a problem for any independent and is no surprise we hardly have any operating on the TfL network. 20 years ago it was a massive difference.
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Post by COBO on Mar 20, 2024 9:14:33 GMT
SL98 has been withdrawn according to Sullivan's Buses website.
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Post by S.152 on Mar 20, 2024 13:19:56 GMT
SL98 has been withdrawn according to Sullivan's Buses website. Pretty sure thats the StreetLite sat near the entrance to their garage stripped off some parts
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 2, 2024 7:16:00 GMT
SL98 has been withdrawn according to Sullivan's Buses website. The highest Superloop route I've heard of is route SL10
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Post by yunus on Apr 3, 2024 21:52:40 GMT
Continuing from the tender thread, what will happen to the operators vehicles when they exit TFL service? I assume continue on routes in Hertsland?
Not sure what the latest is with the 217 but could another operator potentially buy the Diesel MMCs on it for re use?
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Post by COBO on Apr 3, 2024 21:53:50 GMT
Continuing from the tender thread, what will happen to the operators vehicles when they exit TFL service? I assume continue on routes in Hertsland? Not sure what the latest is with the 217 but could another operator potentially buy the Diesel MMCs on it for re use? I presume they’ll be used on their outer London routes.
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Post by ADH45258 on Apr 3, 2024 22:39:15 GMT
Continuing from the tender thread, what will happen to the operators vehicles when they exit TFL service? I assume continue on routes in Hertsland? Not sure what the latest is with the 217 but could another operator potentially buy the Diesel MMCs on it for re use? The 217's contract is still due to carry on for a few more years, but if Sullivan are keen to leave their TFL operations quickly (following the 298/W9/617/629 being surrendered early, and the 299/327/389/399 due for retender anyway), I wouldn't be surprised if the 217 gets novated to another operator (along with the 605/606). In that scenario, it's possible the MMCs could get transferred too (like with the 463/S1), but equally that operator could just find an allocation from their own fleet (like with the 413).
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Post by COBO on Apr 3, 2024 23:45:27 GMT
Continuing from the tender thread, what will happen to the operators vehicles when they exit TFL service? I assume continue on routes in Hertsland? Not sure what the latest is with the 217 but could another operator potentially buy the Diesel MMCs on it for re use? The 217's contract is still due to carry on for a few more years, but if Sullivan are keen to leave their TFL operations quickly (following the 298/W9/617/629 being surrendered early, and the 299/327/389/399 due for retender anyway), I wouldn't be surprised if the 217 gets novated to another operator (along with the 605/606). In that scenario, it's possible the MMCs could get transferred too (like with the 463/S1), but equally that operator could just find an allocation from their own fleet (like with the 413). That’s if another buys the Enviro 400 MMCs.
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Post by snowman on Apr 4, 2024 5:41:27 GMT
Continuing from the tender thread, what will happen to the operators vehicles when they exit TFL service? I assume continue on routes in Hertsland? Not sure what the latest is with the 217 but could another operator potentially buy the Diesel MMCs on it for re use? The 217's contract is still due to carry on for a few more years, but if Sullivan are keen to leave their TFL operations quickly (following the 298/W9/617/629 being surrendered early, and the 299/327/389/399 due for retender anyway), I wouldn't be surprised if the 217 gets novated to another operator (along with the 605/606). In that scenario, it's possible the MMCs could get transferred too (like with the 463/S1), but equally that operator could just find an allocation from their own fleet (like with the 413). Ultimately they can continue to use the bus, and some have previously been repainted green, or sell it on to someone. But I doubt many London operators will be looking to buy more diesel buses by 2025 Of course all operators look at internal cascades so the exact vehicles that finish on a route might result in equivalent number of other (usually older) vehicles leaving. Very occasionally the whole operation is closed down or sold to a competitor (usually when it's family business or management team decide to retire)
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Post by bustavane on Apr 4, 2024 10:05:30 GMT
The 217's contract is still due to carry on for a few more years, but if Sullivan are keen to leave their TFL operations quickly (following the 298/W9/617/629 being surrendered early, and the 299/327/389/399 due for retender anyway), I wouldn't be surprised if the 217 gets novated to another operator (along with the 605/606). In that scenario, it's possible the MMCs could get transferred too (like with the 463/S1), but equally that operator could just find an allocation from their own fleet (like with the 413). That’s if another buys the Enviro 400 MMCs. I would have assumed they're leased and would return to the leasing company. Do we know?
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Post by TB123 on Apr 4, 2024 10:24:31 GMT
That’s if another buys the Enviro 400 MMCs. I would have assumed they're leased and would return to the leasing company. Do we know? All of Sullivan's fleet is owned.
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Post by bustavane on Apr 4, 2024 11:16:12 GMT
I would have assumed they're leased and would return to the leasing company. Do we know? All of Sullivan's fleet is owned. Thanks.
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Post by yunus on Apr 8, 2024 17:22:25 GMT
I went up to Borehamwood today and was surprised at how many old gear Sullivans still have going as far back as an 2002 bus which I passed. But was lucky enough to ride a 2004 on the 398 & 2007 on the 306!
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Post by yunus on Apr 14, 2024 20:56:23 GMT
Just to clarify all Sullivans routes are now up for re tender with results due soon?
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Post by COBO on Apr 14, 2024 21:03:12 GMT
Just to clarify all Sullivans routes are now up for re tender with results due soon? Yes except for the 217 and 605 which contracts end in 2017 and 2029 respectively, the 640 which has already been lost to Metroline and the 549 which will be withdrawn soon In September.
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