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Post by allentc on Feb 19, 2024 13:12:56 GMT
The original TP1 (52 reg playbus) is actually stored pretty close to London. Saw it recently when looking at another bus to buy (all will be revealed soon ) Will you do a thread in the preservation section for your new purchase?
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Post by 6HP502C on Feb 19, 2024 14:41:07 GMT
I did read up somewhere many years ago. (I will need to dig up my archives for this) that during 1999 the early plaxtons delivered for First and Metroline were made around the same time. This probably explains why the tridents that were given to the 1, 18 and W8 had the mirrors in the middle whereas the 25 with its messy T-KLF and V-HBY regs didn't have the mirror in the middle. I do remember some Metroline tridents also having V-HBY regs plates as well from memory and some had the first london style seats (not moquette wise but just the base) and some of the metroline tridents having the one big window on the front of the upper deck and not two splits. The early Metroline TPs were effectively built in two batches - first batch was TP2-31, second batch was TP1 and TP32-65. There were some differences between the two batches. Most notably the second batch had fewer seats (H41/21D instead of H45/22D) as the first batch was found to have insufficient legroom. Also the second batch was built with one-piece upper deck windscreens instead of split screens, although many of them later had split screens fitted following damage to the one-piece screen. The second batch did have a mix of T-CLO and V-HBY regs (with one T-KLD and one V-GLB) as they were delivered over the reg changeover period.
The bus that was originally built as TP1 was retained by Dennis as a demonstrator. It eventually ended up as a playbus with a 52-reg plate as it had never been officially registered T101KLD despite being displayed with that reg. A new TP1 was then built in its place for Metroline, which explains why TP1 has the same specs as the second batch. Incidentally the bus shown in this photo must be the original TP1 - you can tell by the split upper-deck windscreen - so it isn't the bus that ended up with BBPG. Interesting history! Do you know if there is a story with TP30? It rather anomalously had a ZF transmission but never got to the bottom of why.
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Post by mkay315 on Feb 19, 2024 15:09:56 GMT
The early Metroline TPs were effectively built in two batches - first batch was TP2-31, second batch was TP1 and TP32-65. There were some differences between the two batches. Most notably the second batch had fewer seats (H41/21D instead of H45/22D) as the first batch was found to have insufficient legroom. Also the second batch was built with one-piece upper deck windscreens instead of split screens, although many of them later had split screens fitted following damage to the one-piece screen. The second batch did have a mix of T-CLO and V-HBY regs (with one T-KLD and one V-GLB) as they were delivered over the reg changeover period.
The bus that was originally built as TP1 was retained by Dennis as a demonstrator. It eventually ended up as a playbus with a 52-reg plate as it had never been officially registered T101KLD despite being displayed with that reg. A new TP1 was then built in its place for Metroline, which explains why TP1 has the same specs as the second batch. Incidentally the bus shown in this photo must be the original TP1 - you can tell by the split upper-deck windscreen - so it isn't the bus that ended up with BBPG. Interesting history! Do you know if there is a story with TP30? It rather anomalously had a ZF transmission but never got to the bottom of why. Ah yes the famous T97 KLD bus
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Post by galwhv69 on Feb 19, 2024 16:11:21 GMT
The original TP1 (52 reg playbus) is actually stored pretty close to London. Saw it recently when looking at another bus to buy (all will be revealed soon ) Will you do a thread in the preservation section for your new purchase? Probably yes
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Post by redexpress on Feb 19, 2024 21:44:58 GMT
The early Metroline TPs were effectively built in two batches - first batch was TP2-31, second batch was TP1 and TP32-65. There were some differences between the two batches. Most notably the second batch had fewer seats (H41/21D instead of H45/22D) as the first batch was found to have insufficient legroom. Also the second batch was built with one-piece upper deck windscreens instead of split screens, although many of them later had split screens fitted following damage to the one-piece screen. The second batch did have a mix of T-CLO and V-HBY regs (with one T-KLD and one V-GLB) as they were delivered over the reg changeover period.
The bus that was originally built as TP1 was retained by Dennis as a demonstrator. It eventually ended up as a playbus with a 52-reg plate as it had never been officially registered T101KLD despite being displayed with that reg. A new TP1 was then built in its place for Metroline, which explains why TP1 has the same specs as the second batch. Incidentally the bus shown in this photo must be the original TP1 - you can tell by the split upper-deck windscreen - so it isn't the bus that ended up with BBPG. Interesting history! Do you know if there is a story with TP30? It rather anomalously had a ZF transmission but never got to the bottom of why. I never figured that one out either! If my understanding of Dennis chassis codes is correct, the bus originally had the same Voith transmission as the others, so it must have had its box changed by Metroline at some point. Maybe a trial for comparison?
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Post by 6HP502C on Feb 19, 2024 21:50:26 GMT
Interesting history! Do you know if there is a story with TP30? It rather anomalously had a ZF transmission but never got to the bottom of why. I never figured that one out either! If my understanding of Dennis chassis codes is correct, the bus originally had the same Voith transmission as the others, so it must have had its box changed by Metroline at some point. Maybe a trial for comparison? I saw that in the VIN but it’s not always accurate. A bit of a mess was made of the Stagecoach Y/51 plate Tridents for sure. Perhaps it did get changed at some point - as long as the bell housing is the same then it’s pretty much plug and play.
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Post by M1104 on Feb 21, 2024 14:01:46 GMT
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Post by TB123 on Mar 4, 2024 12:53:56 GMT
Ex RATP Streetlites WLS30031 and 34 have gone to First SPS for use on work buses to the Sizewell C nuclear power station site in Suffolk. Still dual door but painted all-white.
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Post by richard on Mar 4, 2024 19:28:07 GMT
VW1846 now with Bright bus tours as their 2904 re registered CTS917
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 4, 2024 22:06:30 GMT
I enquired about this one for preservation late last year, they said they had no plans to sell it on for now, and they said they would be looking for around £8k when they were ready to sell it. I notice the reserve wasn't met on the ebay listing so likely they've set something around £8k as the reserve
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Post by M1104 on Mar 6, 2024 19:01:46 GMT
Former RATP Streetlites WLS30037, WLS30038, WLS30039 and WLS30040 are with Ventura Bus and Coach Sales.
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Post by richard on Mar 9, 2024 20:30:05 GMT
DOE13,25 and 29 now with East Yorkshire buses 13 renumbered 995 25 renumbered 997 29 renumbered 996
Still red and in tfl spec and dule doored
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Post by YX10FFN on Mar 11, 2024 11:21:51 GMT
A number of the VW18* series have finally left Metroline and are entering service at Vision in Bolton. Unsurprising as that seems to be the most common B9TL retirement home.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2024 22:12:49 GMT
SLN 15045 scrapped
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Post by busoccultation on Mar 12, 2024 22:28:14 GMT
15042, 15047 & 15110 are also off to scrap as well. 15091 from PD is now withdrawn. With few WH Scanias already being withdrawn ahead of the rest of their Scania fleet, answers as to why 97 was awarded with existing buses over other Stagecoach routes in the area, which basically allows Stagecoach to get rid of the Scanias sooner thanks to the 262/473 going to Go-Ahead at the end of the month.
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