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Post by I-Azusio-I on Aug 18, 2013 20:15:23 GMT
Returning back to the original discussion, I've never done the Notting Hill express routes before (I'm usually on holiday at that time). What vehicles typically run on these services and are they worth riding? I'm thinking I might try a couple. 2X - uses buses from N and BN I think (maybe VLAs/Ts) 36X - uses buses from NX/MW/SW (maybe PVLs/Es/WVLs) 205 - uses buses from BW (spare Scanias/E400Hs/Tridents 436X - uses buses from MW or RA (spare MECs) |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Aug 18, 2013 21:53:43 GMT
Last year, I remember seeing some of the drivers on the carnival services taking their breaks at Peckham Bus Station.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 18, 2013 22:30:40 GMT
Returning back to the original discussion, I've never done the Notting Hill express routes before (I'm usually on holiday at that time). What vehicles typically run on these services and are they worth riding? I'm thinking I might try a couple. OB1234 has got the basic types per route correct in his reply to you. I took a few snaps last year in various places and the major thing to say is that the long standing routes like the 36X and 436X load very, very heavily as do the normal 36 and 436. People could not get on buses at Vauxhall last year on BH Monday. The 2X and 205X were quieter when I saw them but they are relatively new services. Other routes like the 94, 148 and 390 also load heavily and often have extras running. I've not seen the service arrangements north of Carnival myself but Elgin Avenue traditionally resembles a cross between a bus station and a bus garage (based on photos I've seen). I think the 70 and 316 have seen special double deck workings on Carnival days too. I've never been to Carnival as I'm concerned about the crime risk even though I'm sure I'd enjoy the music and food. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 19, 2013 0:14:25 GMT
BN usually throw out DLA's on the 2X as well.
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Post by TA1 on Aug 19, 2013 8:06:46 GMT
Returning back to the original discussion, I've never done the Notting Hill express routes before (I'm usually on holiday at that time). What vehicles typically run on these services and are they worth riding? I'm thinking I might try a couple. OB1234 has got the basic types per route correct in his reply to you. I took a few snaps last year in various places and the major thing to say is that the long standing routes like the 36X and 436X load very, very heavily as do the normal 36 and 436. People could not get on buses at Vauxhall last year on BH Monday. The 2X and 205X were quieter when I saw them but they are relatively new services. Other routes like the 94, 148 and 390 also load heavily and often have extras running. I've not seen the service arrangements north of Carnival myself but Elgin Avenue traditionally resembles a cross between a bus station and a bus garage (based on photos I've seen). I think the 70 and 316 have seen special double deck workings on Carnival days too. I've never been to Carnival as I'm concerned about the crime risk even though I'm sure I'd enjoy the music and food. I don't seem to recall, the 70 having double deckers placed on the route during Carnival, Yes the 316 definitely does. As for Elgin Avenue it resemebles Selbourne Road when The central line was out and terminating bus services there or What North Greenwich looks like at present seeing as the bus station is closed. I think with the Overground being on strike, I'm unsure if that means no service will run at all (I support their strike tbh). - I think the 205X and H&C will be busier than usual, As when i attended carnival last year and the year before. I walked from Ladbroke Grove to Kensal Rise & Kensal Green respectively to travel back towards East London. Last year the Overground coped well, with the 7.5min frequency sweeping up heards of carnival goers. Mass amount of staff with the loudspeakers frequently reminding revellers to stand behind the yellow line and tap in the oystercards. Over the years, Crime has seen Carnival end earlier every year which is disappointing. But a tip for you snoggle - if you or anybody decide to attend. 1. Withdraw money before entering the area. 2. Try not to carry a backpag or a pouch which will be placed out of your sight. 3. Perhaps carry a wallet and your phone in either pocket. 4. Don't be too paranoid of your surroundings but remain cautious. With those tips perhaps you'll have a more enjoyable time, especially as you've done more risker things taking pictures of buses with your expensive camera near Priory Court  in and around town. |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 19, 2013 15:37:05 GMT
OB1234 has got the basic types per route correct in his reply to you. I took a few snaps last year in various places and the major thing to say is that the long standing routes like the 36X and 436X load very, very heavily as do the normal 36 and 436. People could not get on buses at Vauxhall last year on BH Monday. The 2X and 205X were quieter when I saw them but they are relatively new services. Other routes like the 94, 148 and 390 also load heavily and often have extras running. I've not seen the service arrangements north of Carnival myself but Elgin Avenue traditionally resembles a cross between a bus station and a bus garage (based on photos I've seen). I think the 70 and 316 have seen special double deck workings on Carnival days too. I've never been to Carnival as I'm concerned about the crime risk even though I'm sure I'd enjoy the music and food. I don't seem to recall, the 70 having double deckers placed on the route during Carnival, Yes the 316 definitely does. As for Elgin Avenue it resemebles Selbourne Road when The central line was out and terminating bus services there or What North Greenwich looks like at present seeing as the bus station is closed. I think with the Overground being on strike, I'm unsure if that means no service will run at all (I support their strike tbh). - I think the 205X and H&C will be busier than usual, As when i attended carnival last year and the year before. I walked from Ladbroke Grove to Kensal Rise & Kensal Green respectively to travel back towards East London. Last year the Overground coped well, with the 7.5min frequency sweeping up heards of carnival goers. Mass amount of staff with the loudspeakers frequently reminding revellers to stand behind the yellow line and tap in the oystercards. Over the years, Crime has seen Carnival end earlier every year which is disappointing. But a tip for you snoggle - if you or anybody decide to attend. 1. Withdraw money before entering the area. 2. Try not to carry a backpag or a pouch which will be placed out of your sight. 3. Perhaps carry a wallet and your phone in either pocket. 4. Don't be too paranoid of your surroundings but remain cautious. Thanks for the advice. Still not sure if it will encourage me to attend or not. Oooooh - do I have my very own Bus Forum local stalker???   |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 20:26:19 GMT
Notting hill gate gets very busy Monday late pm. Extra night 148's should run , making it every 10 mins until around 3am.
In previous years LU put extras on the 94 but for the last couple of years the extras have been on the 148 instead. Surprised there has never been an 148x !
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Post by MoEnviro on Aug 23, 2013 19:54:58 GMT
Information I have gathered for Sunday's Buses.
Route 2X
West Norwood to Notting Hill Gate 12:00-18:00
12:00-16:00 every 15 minutes
16:00-17:00 every 14-15 minutes
Departing Vauxhall 17:01, 17:25, 17:49
Notting Hill Gate to West Norwood 16:00-19:15
16:00-18:00 every 15 minutes
18:00-21:00 every 12 minutes
21:00-22:00 every 11-12 minutes
22:00-00:00 every 12 minutes
Route 36X
New Cross/Peckham to Elgin Avenue/Chippenham Road
Departing Vauxhall 12:27, 12:51, 13:15, 13:27, 13:39, 13:51, 14:03, 14:15, 14:27, 14:39, 14:51, 15:03, 15:15, 15:27, 15:39, 15:51, 16:03, 16:15, 16:39, 17:03, 17:15, 17:27, 17:39, 17:51, 18:03, 18:15, 18:39
Elgin Avenue/Chippenham Road to New Cross/Peckham
Departing Vauxhall to New Cross 15:47, 16:11, 16:35, 17:23, 18:05, 20:26, 20:36, 20:56, 21:06, 21:36, 21:48, 22:00, 22:24, 22:48, 23:12
Departing Vauxhall to Camberwell 16:59
Departing Vauxhall to Peckham 17:47, 18:20, 18:32, 18:44, 18:56, 19:08, 19:18, 19:28, 19:38, 19:48, 19:58, 20:08, 20:18, 20:46, 21:16, 21:26
Route 436X
Peckham to Notting Hill Gate
12:00-17:00 every 15 minutes
Departing Vauxhall 17:04, 17:28
Notting Hill Gate to Peckham
16:00-17:00 every 15 minutes
17:00-18:00 every 14-15 minutes
18:00-20:00 every 12 minutes
20:00-21:00 every 11-12 minutes
21:00-00:00 every 12 minutes
Additional Route 36
Departing Vauxhall to Harrow Road 13:22, 13:42, 14:03, 14:24, 14:39, 14:54, 15:09, 15:24, 15:39, 15:54, 16:09, 16:24, 16:39, 16:54, 17:09, 17:24, 17:39, 17:54, 18:09, 18:24, 18:39, 18:53, 19:08, 22:06, 22:21
19:00-20:00 every 15 minutes
20:00-21:00 every 14-15 minutes
21:00-22:00 every 15 minutes
Departing Vauxhall to Peckham 14:41, 15:01, 15:21, 15:41, 15:56, 16:11, 16:26, 16:41, 16:56, 17:11, 17:26, 17:41, 17:56, 18:11, 18:26, 18:41, 18:56,
19:00-20:00 every 15 minutes
20:00-21:00 every 14-15 minutes
21:00-00:00 every 15 minutes
Route 205X
Departing Aldgate for Harrow Road
10:25-17:05 every 20 minutes
Departing Baker St for Aldgate
15:00-20:00 6 buses an hour
20:00-23:15 every 12 minutes
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Post by snoggle on Aug 25, 2013 23:03:48 GMT
Just having a look through the routes in LVF that have "Y" prefixes in the "Line" field to denote diverted or supplementary services. I see the 390 has a supplementary schedule. It'll be fun to see what happens *next year* when it will be NB4L operated. I wonder how TfL will sort that issue out next year and, of course, there may well be other routes that run in the N Hill vicinity that also have supplementary schedules?
I guess the 390 could be helped out by spares from the 24 but will spare NB4Ls from the 11 end up supplementing the 36 (as per tradition)? I know it's a year away but just a little bit of fun to stretch the brain cells.
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Post by MoEnviro on Aug 26, 2013 19:22:30 GMT
Some sightings from today:
148 Additional's- ADH17, TLA22,TLA20,
436X-MEC27,MEC7,MEC15,MEC33,MEC18,MEC42,MEC47,
2X- VLA62,VLA3,VLA5,VLA2,VLA10,VLA8,T117
36 additionals- E262,PVL324,E246,WVL134,WVL150,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 19:41:24 GMT
Went down there tonight,
The 94 was a total mess, being run on a Sunday schedule it was messed up completely.
The 148 badly needs an extra schedule between Notting hill gate and elephant and castle.
The 390 was carrying very heavy loads, picking up for the absence of 94's
The 2x seems to be misunderstood by many, but is a handy extra express service to Victoria.
The 28's were also at full capacity between wandsworth and Notting hill gate, not sure if any extras , but it needs more buses.
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Post by I-Azusio-I on Aug 26, 2013 19:45:13 GMT
Went down there tonight, The 94 was a total mess, being run on a Sunday schedule it was messed up completely. The 148 badly needs an extra schedule between Notting hill gate and elephant and castle. The 390 was carrying very heavy loads, picking up for the absence of 94's The 2x seems to be misunderstood by many, but is a handy extra express service to Victoria. The 28's were also at full capacity between wandsworth and Notting hill gate, not sure if any extras , but it needs more buses. Is it Bank Holiday today because all routes seem to be running on a Sunday schedule |
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Post by greeny253 on Aug 26, 2013 19:54:16 GMT
Went down there tonight, The 94 was a total mess, being run on a Sunday schedule it was messed up completely. The 148 badly needs an extra schedule between Notting hill gate and elephant and castle. The 390 was carrying very heavy loads, picking up for the absence of 94's The 2x seems to be misunderstood by many, but is a handy extra express service to Victoria. The 28's were also at full capacity between wandsworth and Notting hill gate, not sure if any extras , but it needs more buses. Is it Bank Holiday today because all routes seem to be running on a Sunday schedule Yep. Last full weekend in August is always a bank holiday  |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 26, 2013 20:47:01 GMT
Went down there tonight, The 94 was a total mess, being run on a Sunday schedule it was messed up completely. The 148 badly needs an extra schedule between Notting hill gate and elephant and castle. The 390 was carrying very heavy loads, picking up for the absence of 94's The 2x seems to be misunderstood by many, but is a handy extra express service to Victoria. The 28's were also at full capacity between wandsworth and Notting hill gate, not sure if any extras , but it needs more buses. Looking at LVF it looks like the 94 was a basic service - no obvious enhancement today. The 148 has extra buses on it during the day and on the night service. The 390 has had a supplementary service from Oxford Circus westwards in previous years. It looks like it has had a lot of extra buses on today. The 28 also looks like it has been supplemented too - a series of buses have run over the afternoon period. The 2X is relatively new so people are perhaps still learning about it. I remain of the view that TfL should provide more specific information about what the "X" services are for Notting Hill Carnival. Look for the "Y" line codes in LVF listings of buses that are now off service - this is a good indicator of extra buses and / or that the route has a special timetable due to curtailment / diversion. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 26, 2013 21:06:09 GMT
Some sightings from today: 148 Additional's- ADH17, TLA22,TLA20, 436X-MEC27,MEC7,MEC15,MEC33,MEC18,MEC42,MEC47, 2X- VLA62,VLA3,VLA5,VLA2,VLA10,VLA8,T117 36 additionals- E262,PVL324,E246,WVL134,WVL150, VLA9 & another T ran the 2X today as well - no DLA's it seems this year. |
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