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Post by M1104 on Feb 8, 2016 22:10:23 GMT
I don't know why I never noticed this before, but from the 355 bus today I noticed some concrete street lights on Clarence Avenue* at the junction of South Circular Road. They are in the process of being replaced by modern lamp posts but as I passed it during daylight I don't know which ones are presently working. The concrete ones look identical to the solitary concrete lamp post that is still working by the Bricklayers Arms roundabout (assuming that's still there as it's been a while now since I passed that way). * - Clapham Park area outside the row of shops Don't worry mate, those replacement lampposts have been there at least 10 years outside the shops by Clarence Avenue. None of the concrete lights there work but I don't think all of their replacements work either as I walked through their one night and discovered it. Also, if you go into the Clapham Park estate next door, at least one concrete lamppost survives but no idea if it still works. Furthermore, there are a couple of concrete columns on a short road just off Clarence Avenue with Urbis ZX1's and they still work - the area would of been concrete column heaven right up to the early 00's lol. That column at Bricklayer Arms on the estate is still there and amazingly, still works as I passed it last Saturday which made my day. Part of me suspected that those Clarence Avenue replacement posts had been there a few years as they are not the energy saver variants used today. In fact those are the same design posts use to 'sadly' replace the Swan shape concrete variants up to the early noughties as you say. The next time I drive that way I must remember to briefly go pass that estate to check out the other concrete survivors. Glad to hear that the lamp at Bricklayers Arms is still working. It's times like this where I wonder if there are any more concrete lamp posts (working or not working) that may be within the nooks and crannies of Lambeth, Southwark, Wandsworth* and Merton. * - probably the least likely of the Boroughs as they did a good sweep of concrete replacements from the late 80s through to the early/mid 90s |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 9, 2016 2:25:25 GMT
Don't worry mate, those replacement lampposts have been there at least 10 years outside the shops by Clarence Avenue. None of the concrete lights there work but I don't think all of their replacements work either as I walked through their one night and discovered it. Also, if you go into the Clapham Park estate next door, at least one concrete lamppost survives but no idea if it still works. Furthermore, there are a couple of concrete columns on a short road just off Clarence Avenue with Urbis ZX1's and they still work - the area would of been concrete column heaven right up to the early 00's lol. That column at Bricklayer Arms on the estate is still there and amazingly, still works as I passed it last Saturday which made my day. Part of me suspected that those Clarence Avenue replacement posts had been there a few years as they are not the energy saver variants used today. In fact those are the same design posts use to 'sadly' replace the Swan shape concrete variants up to the early noughties as you say. The next time I drive that way I must remember to briefly go pass that estate to check out the other concrete survivors. Glad to hear that the lamp at Bricklayers Arms is still working. It's times like this where I wonder if there are any more concrete lamp posts (working or not working) that may be within the nooks and crannies of Lambeth, Southwark, Wandsworth* and Merton. * - probably the least likely of the Boroughs as they did a good sweep of concrete replacements from the late 80s through to the early/mid 90s I made a list of roads in Lambeth with concrete columns on my old phone so when I get a chance, I'll charge it up and post that list. Merton will be another decent place for some but I believe Southwark probably have no more other than that sole example at the Bricklayers Arms. Wandsworth's PFI scheme in the 80's & 90's eradicated near enough everything with only a handful of roads missing out such as Clapham Common North Side & Battersea Rise which until recently, had its original metal columns from before the PFI scheme (now replaced by Phosco P567 LED's). Wandsworth is now one of the boroughs with the oldest lighting with the vast majority still ranging from the late 80's to early 90's but yet still beats Lambeth in terms of the number of LED lights despite the vast majority of Lambeth's lighting stock being roughly 15 years younger. |
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 9, 2016 6:46:23 GMT
Hounslow Council have left a whole section of the Half Acre in Brentford with old lighting, right up to the junction of Boston Manor Rd / A4  Not too sure why unless they forgot  Though nearby main roads like Windmill Road have the new LED lamp posts. Some roads with the older sodium lamps are very dingy, namely Algar and Byfield Roads in Isleworth. Some roads, like Woodstock and Raymond Avenue in Ealing have new LED lamp posts, but not enough  So it seems it's okay to break into a car or get up to mischief in the darker parts of the street |
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Post by thesquirrels on Feb 9, 2016 9:23:53 GMT
Part of me suspected that those Clarence Avenue replacement posts had been there a few years as they are not the energy saver variants used today. In fact those are the same design posts use to 'sadly' replace the Swan shape concrete variants up to the early noughties as you say. The next time I drive that way I must remember to briefly go pass that estate to check out the other concrete survivors. Glad to hear that the lamp at Bricklayers Arms is still working. It's times like this where I wonder if there are any more concrete lamp posts (working or not working) that may be within the nooks and crannies of Lambeth, Southwark, Wandsworth* and Merton. * - probably the least likely of the Boroughs as they did a good sweep of concrete replacements from the late 80s through to the early/mid 90s I made a list of roads in Lambeth with concrete columns on my old phone so when I get a chance, I'll charge it up and post that list. Merton will be another decent place for some but I believe Southwark probably have no more other than that sole example at the Bricklayers Arms. Wandsworth's PFI scheme in the 80's & 90's eradicated near enough everything with only a handful of roads missing out such as Clapham Common North Side & Battersea Rise which until recently, had its original metal columns from before the PFI scheme (now replaced by Phosco P567 LED's). Wandsworth is now one of the boroughs with the oldest lighting with the vast majority still ranging from the late 80's to early 90's but yet still beats Lambeth in terms of the number of LED lights despite the vast majority of Lambeth's lighting stock being roughly 15 years younger. Not quite so re. Southwark, there are a few side streets and alleys in SE1 which still have them in place, although most have been switched out. Collinson Street, Chapel Court and Farnham Place to name three, sure there are more. |
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Post by snowman on Feb 9, 2016 11:01:35 GMT
Hounslow Council have left a whole section of the Half Acre in Brentford with old lighting, right up to the junction of Boston Manor Rd / A4 Not too sure why unless they forgot Though nearby main roads like Windmill Road have the new LED lamp posts. Some roads with the older sodium lamps are very dingy, namely Algar and Byfield Roads in Isleworth. Some roads, like Woodstock and Raymond Avenue in Ealing have new LED lamp posts, but not enough So it seems it's okay to break into a car or get up to mischief in the darker parts of the street Half Acre, Brentford is a conservation area so would need to get special planning permission. |
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Post by Hassaan on Feb 11, 2016 23:02:29 GMT
Hounslow Council have left a whole section of the Half Acre in Brentford with old lighting, right up to the junction of Boston Manor Rd / A4 Not too sure why unless they forgot Though nearby main roads like Windmill Road have the new LED lamp posts. Some roads with the older sodium lamps are very dingy, namely Algar and Byfield Roads in Isleworth. Some roads, like Woodstock and Raymond Avenue in Ealing have new LED lamp posts, but not enough So it seems it's okay to break into a car or get up to mischief in the darker parts of the street Heston Road still needs doing, whereas pretty much all surrounding roads no longer have the yellow lights. There is also this light right at the back which is a very rare survivor of lights that I remember being quite common in Hounslow's side roads. Over the border in Norwood Green (and L B Ealing), pretty much all the roads now have LED lights. My road was one of the first to get them, just before Christmas, with nearby side roads following immediately after Christmas and the rest of the roads (including the main Norwood Road) in January. The ones in the side roads have just 2 arrays of LEDs and are dimmer than what was there before, and when combined with the more directional beams (which I was expecting) it isn't helpful on our road which has an unlit footpath several few metres away. Although the communal lighting for the flats was finally fixed last month so it is better than at first (L&Q's contractors keep managing to disable them during inspections ) |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 12, 2016 2:17:58 GMT
Hounslow Council have left a whole section of the Half Acre in Brentford with old lighting, right up to the junction of Boston Manor Rd / A4 Not too sure why unless they forgot Though nearby main roads like Windmill Road have the new LED lamp posts. Some roads with the older sodium lamps are very dingy, namely Algar and Byfield Roads in Isleworth. Some roads, like Woodstock and Raymond Avenue in Ealing have new LED lamp posts, but not enough So it seems it's okay to break into a car or get up to mischief in the darker parts of the street Heston Road still needs doing, whereas pretty much all surrounding roads no longer have the yellow lights. There is also this light right at the back which is a very rare survivor of lights that I remember being quite common in Hounslow's side roads. Over the border in Norwood Green (and L B Ealing), pretty much all the roads now have LED lights. My road was one of the first to get them, just before Christmas, with nearby side roads following immediately after Christmas and the rest of the roads (including the main Norwood Road) in January. The ones in the side roads have just 2 arrays of LEDs and are dimmer than what was there before, and when combined with the more directional beams (which I was expecting) it isn't helpful on our road which has an unlit footpath several few metres away. Although the communal lighting for the flats was finally fixed last month so it is better than at first (L&Q's contractors keep managing to disable them during inspections ) I'm hoping Heston Road is left well alone lol - it's common for a PFI scheme to leave a small number of roads with their older lighting intact. Sadly, Hounslow has gone from a lovely borough in terms of lampposts (I was fond of the blue & brown livery as well as the many Philips MA60's & Thorn Alpha 4's) to a dull & boring one with hideous LED's - even the Great West Road's famous canopy lights were needlessly ripped out rather than simply converting the lights to LED's. |
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 12, 2016 5:34:02 GMT
Hounslow Council have left a whole section of the Half Acre in Brentford with old lighting, right up to the junction of Boston Manor Rd / A4 Not too sure why unless they forgot Though nearby main roads like Windmill Road have the new LED lamp posts. Some roads with the older sodium lamps are very dingy, namely Algar and Byfield Roads in Isleworth. Some roads, like Woodstock and Raymond Avenue in Ealing have new LED lamp posts, but not enough So it seems it's okay to break into a car or get up to mischief in the darker parts of the street Half Acre, Brentford is a conservation area so would need to get special planning permission. Parts like The Butts are... but before Hounslow spoke about just upgrading the bulbs, and leaving the existing lampposts alkne... as for the lampposts on the southern section of Boston Road, between the A4 and Windmill Road, they are definitely NOT heritage, just fugly imitation unpainted silver monstrosities... the ones on Half Acre are heritage design, but thd bulbs can be upgraded from sodium to LED if they could be bothered...  Windmill Road has the modern lights in black lampposts, but a chunk of the fugly ones were forgotten, lol  |
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Post by M1104 on Feb 12, 2016 8:21:48 GMT
Are the lamp posts outside Acton Town tube station still the ones from the 70s? When I used to do the N11 ten odd years back they were still there. I remember the same design posts erected alongside the walls of Kew Gardens on our annual visits as a kid. Their bulb casings were rather a unique design and it wasn't for quite a few years that I realise* the lights turn on 'red into amber', where as a kid I thought they would turn on 'bluish white'.
* - only saw them during the daytime back in the day
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Post by vjaska on Feb 12, 2016 10:23:20 GMT
Half Acre, Brentford is a conservation area so would need to get special planning permission. Parts like The Butts are... but before Hounslow spoke about just upgrading the bulbs, and leaving the existing lampposts alkne... as for the lampposts on the southern section of Boston Road, between the A4 and Windmill Road, they are definitely NOT heritage, just fugly imitation unpainted silver monstrosities... the ones on Half Acre are heritage design, but thd bulbs can be upgraded from sodium to LED if they could be bothered... Windmill Road has the modern lights in black lampposts, but a chunk of the fugly ones were forgotten, lol Those silver lampposts are horrible, what an afterthought they are. As for Windmill Road, the only fugly ones I see are the LED's themselves lol. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 11, 2016 2:14:40 GMT
Sorry for lack of replies but anyway, here's an interesting but personally sad development regarding Lambeth: Lambeth have begun replacing their side road lighting stock with LED's. Previously, only three roads in Streatham had their Urbis ZX1's replaced with Urbis Ampera LED's (Conifer Gardens, Mountearl Gardens & Mount Nod Road) whilst the rest of Streatham Hill & Streatham, which is where most of the borough's Urbis ZX1's can be found, where left untouched. However, over the last month, that has changed and just about every road with Urbis ZX1's in Streatham Hill & Streatham now has new columns up with new Phosco P852 LED's alongside the existing ones just waiting for the old columns to be removed and the Phosco P852 LED's switched on with only Mount Ephraim Road actually having it's old columns removed and the Phosco P852 LED's switched on to date. Meanwhile, since last week, the lighting stock introduced in the PFI scheme in 2005 is also starting to be replaced by Phosco P852 LED's Completed roads that I've seen are: Tyers Street, St. Oswalds Place, one part of Vauxhall Street & Loughborough Street all in Vauxhall off Kennington Lane Concannon Road, Ballater Road, Corrance Road, Solon Road, Plato Road, Ashmere Grove & Hetherington Road all in Brixton off Acre Lane Saltourn Road in Brixton off Effra Road Sudbourne Road, Hayter Road (Beaverstone Road which is a very short road that runs between those two roads is probably done but I've not personally seen) & Lambert Road in Brixton off Brixton Hill 10 days notice is given before a road is converted and as I've a received a letter last week, that should mean that sometime this week, my own road loses it's lovely DW Stratums for boring & ugly P852 LED's  vivavauxhall.wordpress.com/2016/06/01/lambeth-led-street-lighting-programme/ - supposed timeline of the works in Lambeth www.flickr.com/photos/vjaska/27614756744/in/dateposted-public/ - copy of the letter I received www.cuphosco.co.uk/luminaires-p852-20 - P852 LED information |
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Post by M1104 on Jul 11, 2016 6:42:32 GMT
Mill Road and adjoining streets off Merton High Street are sadly in the process of having their mid 70's original spec'd concrete streetlights replaced with energy savers that look identical to the ones you mentioned off Mount Ephraim Road. Pincott Road and Cecil Road near South Wimbledon Station still have most of their original older late 60s/early 70s streetlights* with no sign of any replacement lamp poles, same with Trinity Road SW19 between Kingston Road and the Broadway (the rest of Trinity Road having had their lamps upgraded back in the 1990s).
* - somewhat the smaller version to the ones that used to be on Hayden Road up til the 90s
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Post by vjaska on Jul 14, 2016 0:55:50 GMT
Mill Road and adjoining streets off Merton High Street are sadly in the process of having their mid 70's original spec'd concrete streetlights replaced with energy savers that look identical to the ones you mentioned off Mount Ephraim Road. Pincott Road and Cecil Road near South Wimbledon Station still have most of their original older late 60s/early 70s streetlights* with no sign of any replacement lamp poles, same with Trinity Road SW19 between Kingston Road and the Broadway (the rest of Trinity Road having had their lamps upgraded back in the 1990s). * - somewhat the smaller version to the ones that used to be on Hayden Road up til the 90s A shame to hear that as when I passed through the area a few months ago, it was nice to see those concrete columns still going with their SOX lights shining bright. The Lambeth conversion seems to moving at a slow pace: Monday saw Kellet Road off Effra Road switching to LED. Also that day, I noticed St. Saviours Road & Blenheim Gardens, both off Brixton Hill, had switched over to LED's joining Lambert Road, Hayter Road & Sudbourne Road (Baytree Road had been missed out weirdly) Tuesday saw the next road up from Kellet Road, Mervan Road, switched over. Also that day, from the view of a 355, Branksome Road off Acre Lane & West Road off King's Avenue had switched over as well leaving just two roads off Acre Lane to do - Baytree Road & Strathleven Road. Strathleven Road is a strange one as it directly connects to Lambeth Road at a bend by Blenheim Gardens estate Wednesday saw Trelawn Road off Effra Road switching to LED. My only road is now the only side road off Effra Road left to convert to LED's - so long nice looking DW Stratums  |
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Post by M1104 on Jul 14, 2016 8:18:50 GMT
You just reminded me of a side road by Kennington Police Station that goes behind to an estate where there are three concrete street lights (there could be more but i only saw three from the main road). The first one looks almost identical to the ones being replaced on Mill Road SW19 while the other two slightly resemble the old concrete streetlights that use to be in Battersea's sidestreets up until the late 1980s*. Had passed there late at night where the first one was just turning on whereas the second and third ones were still off.
* - a small handful made it up until around the mid or late 1990s, a side street off Battersea Park Road nearly opposite the dogs home. The far end of that cul-de-sac still had the old columns, perhaps where Wandsworth Council forgot to complete that street (many streets get their lamps replaced in stages, even short length streets)
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Post by vjaska on Jul 14, 2016 10:43:29 GMT
You just reminded me of a side road by Kennington Police Station that goes behind to an estate where there are three concrete street lights (there could be more but i only saw three from the main road). The first one looks almost identical to the ones being replaced on Mill Road SW19 while the other two slightly resemble the old concrete streetlights that use to be in Battersea's sidestreets up until the late 1980s*. Had passed there late at night where the first one was just turning on whereas the second and third ones were still off. * - a small handful made it up until around the mid or late 1990s, a side street off Battersea Park Road nearly opposite the dogs home. The far end of that cul-de-sac still had the old columns, perhaps where Wandsworth Council forgot to complete that street (many streets get their lamps replaced in stages, even short length streets) Ahh, that's Moat Road - it's a private road which is why it retained the concrete columns and I'm expecting them to be not be affected by the LED conversion. In regards to those examples in Wandsworth, one did survive on the Patmore Estate until about 2-3 years ago when it was removed without replacement and there is still one in an estate near Spencer Park at Wandsworth Common. |
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Not too sure why unless they forgot 
Though nearby main roads
So it seems it's okay to break into a car or get up to mischief in the darker parts of the street 
Windmill Road has the modern lights in black lampposts, but a chunk of the fugly ones were forgotten, lol 
