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Post by overgroundcommuter on May 20, 2014 13:21:06 GMT
42 from Sunray Avenue to East Dulwich Sainsburys.
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Post by vjaska on May 20, 2014 13:32:29 GMT
417 to Clapham Junction - the VLA's still have Clapham Common as a via point on the front & side blinds despite terminating at Clapham Common.
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Post by T.R. on May 20, 2014 16:18:52 GMT
Just to add, a good resource is LondonBusRoutes.net via web.archive.org - the earliest version is in 2001. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk
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Post by snoggle on May 20, 2014 17:54:23 GMT
Just to add, a good redource is LondonBusRoutes.net via web.archive.org - the earliest version is in 2001. Thanks for that hint. A couple more spotted A N169 service planned back in 2001. Never happened but we did get the N369. An early possibility of the 360 running on from South Kensington to Ladbroke Grove via route 70. The old 125 / 382 scheme with the 125 going to Enfield and the 382 to Winchmore Hill via Highlands. 406 to Teddington via Broom Lane (I think that's already been mentioned) 272 to Kew Bridge via Strand on the Green 467 from Chessington to Kingston Hospital via the K4 and K2 (replacing the K4 service). U5 to run from South Ruislip to Ruislip and then via U1 to Uxbridge (replacing the U1 on that section). This looks like it would have been another very useful new section but some of the proposed roads are pretty narrow.
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Post by danorak on May 22, 2014 10:40:42 GMT
Indeed, I wasn't sure on the routing but knew it would of taken the back roads to get there. It looks like it would of been useful! In fact, It must have been fairly close to happening as the buses got blinded for it... Yes - annoyingly Barking and Dagenham Council have not published the report on the 498 proposal or, at least, I cannot find it on their website despite it being clearly stated a report was being produced. You could FOI it.... Some examples that occurred to me: at the time of Busplan 78 (!), when the old 70 was rerouted to Lewisham, the original plan was that it should run via Pepys Estate. For whatever reason, residents objected. At the time of the Jubilee Line changes, there was going to be a new P10 from Crystal Palace to Canada Water, broadly over what eventually became the 363 as far as Old Kent Road then cutting through to Bermondsey Station. The 188 was going to be cut back to Elephant & Castle and the 381 (was it still the P11?) was going to be cut back to London Bridge, with a new 377 replacing parts of that and the 77. Given the interest in the 160, there was a plan to divert this via William Barefoot Drive when the 162 was rerouted via Domonic Drive. However, the 162 was initially only going to run as far as Avery Hill so there were objections at the loss of the link to Eltham from Edgebury. In the event of course, the 162 did run to Eltham & the 160 was retained over its old routeing.
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Post by danorak on May 22, 2014 11:15:17 GMT
A couple of others that sprang to mind.
A plan in the late 90s to split the 53 as 53 Oxford Circus to New Cross and 453 Elephant to Plumstead. I think it may even have been tendered as such. I am pleased this was not proceeded with!
LOTS listed proposals to reroute the 380 across Blackheath. Originally, it ran via Duke Humphrey Road and Long Pond Road to avoid the width restriction in Tranquil Vale. However, Lewisham Council wanted to close these roads to reduce ratrunning. It was therefore proposed that the 380 should be rerouted via Eliot Hill, Mounts Pond Road, Aberdeen Terrace, Eliot Vale, Baizdon Road and Southvale Road. I am not sure of the specific reason that led to these plans being abandoned but residents in the posher houses in Aberdeen Terrace and Eliot Vale would probably have objected. Baizdon Road would have been a tight squeeze even for the midibuses in use at the time and the presence of a primary school at Southvale Road wouldn't have helped either.
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Post by ServerKing on May 22, 2014 15:55:40 GMT
looks increasingly like E10 to Chiswick isn't gonna happen anytime soon
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Post by thesquirrels on May 22, 2014 20:42:50 GMT
125 from Winchmore Hill to Enfield Town via 329
382 from Southgate to Winchmore Hill via Fox Lane (newly served roads)
These were being mooted around the time the 382 came into existence.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on May 22, 2014 21:35:42 GMT
Yes - annoyingly Barking and Dagenham Council have not published the report on the 498 proposal or, at least, I cannot find it on their website despite it being clearly stated a report was being produced. At the time of the Jubilee Line changes, there was going to be a new P10 from Crystal Palace to Canada Water, broadly over what eventually became the 363 as far as Old Kent Road then cutting through to Bermondsey Station. T From what I recall, the proposal was for single deckers, which would be more suitable for Wood Vale and Underhill Road, however the 363 between Peckham and Crystal Palace can still get very busy, so they did the right thing personally by not introducing the P10. I think there was some local opposition from those concerned about losing their direct service to Kings Cross.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 22:00:10 GMT
There was a proposal to switch the 110 & 111 routes , with the 111 becoming Kingston to Hounslow (or Cranford) and the 110 being double decked increased in frequency and extended to Heathrow via the 111.
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Post by vjaska on May 22, 2014 22:34:28 GMT
At the time of the Jubilee Line changes, there was going to be a new P10 from Crystal Palace to Canada Water, broadly over what eventually became the 363 as far as Old Kent Road then cutting through to Bermondsey Station. T From what I recall, the proposal was for single deckers, which would be more suitable for Wood Vale and Underhill Road, however the 363 between Peckham and Crystal Palace can still get very busy, so they did the right thing personally by not introducing the P10. I think there was some local opposition from those concerned about losing their direct service to Kings Cross. They still lost it in the end though due to the 63 splitting in two, did they fight for their link when the 63 was split.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 23:03:54 GMT
N7 to Rayners Lane Station - VWs at PA are still blinded for the destination just never materialised.
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Post by COBO on May 22, 2014 23:54:30 GMT
The 224 was supposed to be rerouted between Iveagh Avenue and Acton Lane via Twyford Abbey Road, Bodiam Way, Lakeside Drive and Coronation Road. It never happened. Here is a photo a bus only section on Twyford Abbey Road.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on May 23, 2014 0:37:08 GMT
From what I recall, the proposal was for single deckers, which would be more suitable for Wood Vale and Underhill Road, however the 363 between Peckham and Crystal Palace can still get very busy, so they did the right thing personally by not introducing the P10. I think there was some local opposition from those concerned about losing their direct service to Kings Cross. They still lost it in the end though due to the 63 splitting in two, did they fight for their link when the 63 was split. Not that I remember. I think the increased frequency and the fact they kept the new route kept double deckers compensated for the poor service experienced by 63 passengers between Honor Oak and Crystal Palace.
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Post by M1104 on May 23, 2014 1:12:31 GMT
If my memory serves me correct there was to be a single deck route P10 from Crystal Palace to Bermondsey via North Peckham. This was apparently planned around 1999/2000.
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