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Post by COBO on Apr 8, 2022 16:56:32 GMT
You would only increase overcrowding on the 316 by removing the 295s support, surely it would make sense to keep them both there? The 295 as an every 7-8 minute DD replacing a 228 that runs every 20+ minutes SD, that seems very ill-representative of demand. As a local of the 295, 316 and 228 I'd say that demand is quite a lot, many complain about having an every 20+min service. Also, 316 would get a PVR increase and DDs so that would balance out the pressure as well as having 614 But the 316 can’t be converted to DD due to residents objection. The 295 is the only route along St Anne’s Villas that is allowed to be operated with DDs. How your going to get the 316 to be converted to DD I don’t know 🤷🏿♂️
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Apr 8, 2022 17:17:32 GMT
As a local of the 295, 316 and 228 I'd say that demand is quite a lot, many complain about having an every 20+min service. Also, 316 would get a PVR increase and DDs so that would balance out the pressure as well as having 614 But the 316 can’t be converted to DD due to residents objection. The 295 is the only route along St Anne’s Villas that is allowed to be operated with DDs. How your going to get the 316 to be converted to DD I don’t know 🤷🏿♂️ 295 will get re-routed via 228 between Maida Hill and Bush. 283 will cover the East Acton to CMH bit and 228 is withdrawn. As 295 doesn't follow St Ann's Villas 316 can be decked.
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Post by COBO on Apr 8, 2022 17:24:09 GMT
But the 316 can’t be converted to DD due to residents objection. The 295 is the only route along St Anne’s Villas that is allowed to be operated with DDs. How your going to get the 316 to be converted to DD I don’t know 🤷🏿♂️ 295 will get re-routed via 228 between Maida Hill and Bush. 283 will cover the East Acton to CMH bit and 228 is withdrawn. As 295 doesn't follow St Ann's Villas 316 can be decked. The 295 does follow St Anne’s Villas. The 316 can’t be double decked due to residents objection so are you going to get it double decked? How are you stop the residents objecting to the double decking of the 316. The 295 is only route between Royal Crescent and Cambridge Gardens that allowed to have dds. There’s no physical restrictions but there is residential objection to the 316 being DD that’s why DDs on the 316 stop short at North Kensington.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Apr 8, 2022 17:55:52 GMT
295 will get re-routed via 228 between Maida Hill and Bush. 283 will cover the East Acton to CMH bit and 228 is withdrawn. As 295 doesn't follow St Ann's Villas 316 can be decked. The 295 does follow St Anne’s Villas. The 316 can’t be double decked due to residents objection so are you going to get it double decked? How are you stop the residents objecting to the double decking of the 316. The 295 is only route between Royal Crescent and Cambridge Gardens that allowed to have dds. There’s no physical restrictions but there is residential objection to the 316 being DD that’s why DDs on the 316 stop short at North Kensington. As I said, 295 would be re-routed to follow 228 (which would be withdrawn) between Maida Hill and Holland Pk Roundabout so 316 would be allowed DDs as it would be the only route on that road. 283 would cover the 228 from East Acton.
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Post by COBO on Apr 8, 2022 18:17:35 GMT
The 295 does follow St Anne’s Villas. The 316 can’t be double decked due to residents objection so are you going to get it double decked? How are you stop the residents objecting to the double decking of the 316. The 295 is only route between Royal Crescent and Cambridge Gardens that allowed to have dds. There’s no physical restrictions but there is residential objection to the 316 being DD that’s why DDs on the 316 stop short at North Kensington. As I said, 295 would be re-routed to follow 228 (which would be withdrawn) between Maida Hill and Holland Pk Roundabout so 316 would be allowed DDs as it would be the only route on that road. 283 would cover the 228 from East Acton. You are not answering my question. But how will the 316 be allowed to have dds if you have residents objecting dds to going onto the route? How would you stop the residents to objecting dds from going onto the 316. Right now dds can’t go on the full route of the 316. When dds go on the 316 they have to terminate at North Kensington and not do the full route. The only time when the dds on the 316 can go to White City is when it is being diverted away from Royal Cresent during the Notting Hill carnival. So how are dds going to be allowed on the 316 when you have residents objecting to the dds going onto the 316? What are you going to do with the residents objecting to dds going onto the 316?
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Apr 8, 2022 18:28:47 GMT
Can I just say:
1. iirc the 316 can't see deckers as the 295 uses them, it's an either or situation. They're fine with one route but not two.
2. This is the fantasy thread - so this is just fantasy. irl if it was suggested that Ladbroke Grove needs 8bph DD I would not believe it but this is fantasy. We can do what the hell we like here! If you want to deck the 316, do so here! If Ladbroke Grove would like the 295, send it down there in here!
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Apr 8, 2022 18:38:52 GMT
Can I just say: 1. iirc the 316 can't see deckers as the 295 uses them, it's an either or situation. They're fine with one route but not two. 2. This is the fantasy thread - so this is just fantasy. irl if it was suggested that Ladbroke Grove needs 8bph DD I would not believe it but this is fantasy. We can do what the hell we like here! If you want to deck the 316, do so here! If Ladbroke Grove would like the 295, send it down there in here! Thank you!
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Post by COBO on Apr 8, 2022 18:40:22 GMT
Can I just say: 1. iirc the 316 can't see deckers as the 295 uses them, it's an either or situation. They're fine with one route but not two. 2. This is the fantasy thread - so this is just fantasy. irl if it was suggested that Ladbroke Grove needs 8bph DD I would not believe it but this is fantasy. We can do what the hell we like here! If you want to deck the 316, do so here! If Ladbroke Grove would like the 295, send it down there in here! It’s not fine with two routes. But your right it is a fantasy they can do what they like.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 8, 2022 20:07:49 GMT
Can I just say: 1. iirc the 316 can't see deckers as the 295 uses them, it's an either or situation. They're fine with one route but not two. 2. This is the fantasy thread - so this is just fantasy. irl if it was suggested that Ladbroke Grove needs 8bph DD I would not believe it but this is fantasy. We can do what the hell we like here! If you want to deck the 316, do so here! If Ladbroke Grove would like the 295, send it down there in here! I don't think it's either or, the 316 was agreed to be the single deck route and chances are if the 295 goes the agreement will still remain that the 316 is a single deck route. Residents will probably kick up a fuss if the 316 is decked even if the 295 goes as that's not what they agreed to.
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Post by uakari on Apr 13, 2022 22:20:40 GMT
New school route 614, Kensington Leisure Centre to Wembley Central vi's JL-2 routing to Willesden Green, 266 to Cricklewood Broadway and 316 to Westway Sports Centre and Silchester Road in its entirety. Aims: To aid 316 in school runs to and from the academy next to the leisure centre as well as serving many other schools e.g. St Augustin's Operated by Metroline from W with 2 TEHs and 2 VWHs from the old 332 allocation. These will crosslink with 316 as 295 will be re-routed to replace the Maida Vale - Shepherds Bush section of the 228. 228 will be withdrawn from service as 283 will cover the East Acton to CMH section Using this number for a route serving Wembley would be too close geographically to Uno 614 at Queensbury imo.
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Post by COBO on Apr 13, 2022 22:41:41 GMT
105: extended from Greenford Station to Wembley Central via Greenford Road, double run via Green Park Way for Westway Cross, Greenford Road, Whitton Avenue East, route 487 to Alperton, Ealing Road and Montrose Crescent. To link Wembley and Alperton with Westway Cross, Greenford, Southall and Heathrow Central.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 13, 2022 23:28:23 GMT
Divert the 249 & 432 into Crystal Palace Bus Station in both directions so I don't need to decide which stop I need to go to for the first bus out of the bus station or the one on Anerley Hill.
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Post by mkay315 on Apr 14, 2022 6:08:39 GMT
Divert the 249 & 432 into Crystal Palace Bus Station in both directions so I don't need to decide which stop I need to go to for the first bus out of the bus station or the one on Anerley Hill. Mate that bus station at the moment is fully packed to the point I'm seeing the 3 and 227 standing on palace parade.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 14, 2022 11:32:23 GMT
Divert the 249 & 432 into Crystal Palace Bus Station in both directions so I don't need to decide which stop I need to go to for the first bus out of the bus station or the one on Anerley Hill. Mate that bus station at the moment is fully packed to the point I'm seeing the 3 and 227 standing on palace parade. I’m very aware of that hence why I wrote it here and not in the other thread
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Post by CircleLineofLife on Apr 15, 2022 13:06:51 GMT
So I made another route
I used 48 as the number but could be 82 as well.
Willesden - London Bridge
Willesden, Bus Garage Willesden Green Library Brondesbury Park Station Queens Park Station Carlton Vale Maida Vale/ Edgware Rd Lord's Cricket Ground Primrose Hill Camden Town Euston St King's Cross St Angel Islington Barbican London Wall Moorgate Bank Mounment London Bridge
Run time: 75 mins, so shorter than 243 and 341, which have a run time of 86 mins. But we like long routes here. Plus another bus route connecting the western half of NW that is not the 31 is always appreciated And there could be more west connections into city.
I have a few alternative routings but this one was my favorite one. Apart from the end bit.
Plus could anyone let me know if the bridge at queens park is weak, as i only see it used for bus diversions, as the 206 turns just b4.
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