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Post by abellion on Apr 14, 2024 16:55:29 GMT
I actually thought of 249 being extended from Anerley to Elmers End instead of 432, to link Elmers End into northern line as well as Streatham High Street with only the basis of a short 1 mile extension. However, as I am not a south-east Local, I am not sure about whether the capacity of the 249's current demand can support the extension. The 432 would link into the Victoria Line at Brixton & the 249 only serves the Tesco & Aldi in Streatham and misses the main shopping area. Besides, Elmers End has a big Tesco of its own and I imagine people in Elmers End won’t travel to Streatham for shopping when Beckenham is nearby & Bromley provides a bigger and better shopping experience via the 358 And the 249 is already long and slow and susceptible to traffic, not that the 432 isn’t as busy or congested but I think the 249 is more so due to its indirect nature.
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Post by ucm131 on Apr 17, 2024 2:13:20 GMT
W7 is a short and sweet route that links Muswell Hill to Finsbury Park but often gets extremely packed with commuters through it's exclusive runs in crouch end and somehow ended up being one of the most popular and used routes in London. With similar running modes like the 166 (Where 2 buses go to banstead and 1 to Epsom), a frequency of 3bph for W7 departures from Finsbury Park should be extended to North Finchley while keeping it's existing frequencies between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park (No change to the existing W7 Timetable)
The extended route to North Finchley follows the 234 to Creighton Avenue, where it serves the entire Creighton Avenue and turns right, following the 263 into North Finchley.
I believe the benefits can bring schools along Creighton Avenue a more direct trip towards Muswell Hill/North Finchley or even Finsbury Park and Crouch Hill as well as offloading W7 Hoppers onto the 234, and creating links between Muswell Hill and Finchley Memorial Hopsital. There is no change towards existing W7 Passengers in terms of frequency for it's short intervals between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park.
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Post by mondraker275 on Apr 17, 2024 7:18:39 GMT
W7 is a short and sweet route that links Muswell Hill to Finsbury Park but often gets extremely packed with commuters through it's exclusive runs in crouch end and somehow ended up being one of the most popular and used routes in London. With similar running modes like the 166 (Where 2 buses go to banstead and 1 to Epsom), a frequency of 3bph for W7 departures from Finsbury Park should be extended to North Finchley while keeping it's existing frequencies between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park (No change to the existing W7 Timetable) The extended route to North Finchley follows the 234 to Creighton Avenue, where it serves the entire Creighton Avenue and turns right, following the 263 into North Finchley. I believe the benefits can bring schools along Creighton Avenue a more direct trip towards Muswell Hill/North Finchley or even Finsbury Park and Crouch Hill as well as offloading W7 Hoppers onto the 234, and creating links between Muswell Hill and Finchley Memorial Hopsital. There is no change towards existing W7 Passengers in terms of frequency for it's short intervals between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park. You say it wont impact current W7 journeys but you may cause reliability issues if those few buses get caught up in the extension. I dont mind odd working extensions such as 166 but with regards to W7 and other routes that are working well, dont touch them unless you are supporting the success with more priority and/or buses!
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Post by LondonNorthern on Apr 17, 2024 7:42:27 GMT
W7 is a short and sweet route that links Muswell Hill to Finsbury Park but often gets extremely packed with commuters through it's exclusive runs in crouch end and somehow ended up being one of the most popular and used routes in London. With similar running modes like the 166 (Where 2 buses go to banstead and 1 to Epsom), a frequency of 3bph for W7 departures from Finsbury Park should be extended to North Finchley while keeping it's existing frequencies between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park (No change to the existing W7 Timetable) The extended route to North Finchley follows the 234 to Creighton Avenue, where it serves the entire Creighton Avenue and turns right, following the 263 into North Finchley. I believe the benefits can bring schools along Creighton Avenue a more direct trip towards Muswell Hill/North Finchley or even Finsbury Park and Crouch Hill as well as offloading W7 Hoppers onto the 234, and creating links between Muswell Hill and Finchley Memorial Hopsital. There is no change towards existing W7 Passengers in terms of frequency for it's short intervals between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park. Most people from Muswell Hill are referred to Whittington pretty sure, which the 43/134/234 provides links towards. Definitely no
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 17, 2024 8:58:46 GMT
W7 is a short and sweet route that links Muswell Hill to Finsbury Park but often gets extremely packed with commuters through it's exclusive runs in crouch end and somehow ended up being one of the most popular and used routes in London. With similar running modes like the 166 (Where 2 buses go to banstead and 1 to Epsom), a frequency of 3bph for W7 departures from Finsbury Park should be extended to North Finchley while keeping it's existing frequencies between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park (No change to the existing W7 Timetable) The extended route to North Finchley follows the 234 to Creighton Avenue, where it serves the entire Creighton Avenue and turns right, following the 263 into North Finchley. I believe the benefits can bring schools along Creighton Avenue a more direct trip towards Muswell Hill/North Finchley or even Finsbury Park and Crouch Hill as well as offloading W7 Hoppers onto the 234, and creating links between Muswell Hill and Finchley Memorial Hopsital. There is no change towards existing W7 Passengers in terms of frequency for it's short intervals between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park. Most people from Muswell Hill are referred to Whittington pretty sure, which the 43/134/234 provides links towards. Definitely no That being said none of those 3 routes serve directly outside Whittington Hospital which is up a hill. Could the 134 be diverted via the 4’s LOR to serve the hospital & create new links to the hospital from Kentish Town/Camden & Muswell Hill/Friern Barnet?
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 17, 2024 9:02:13 GMT
W7 is a short and sweet route that links Muswell Hill to Finsbury Park but often gets extremely packed with commuters through it's exclusive runs in crouch end and somehow ended up being one of the most popular and used routes in London. With similar running modes like the 166 (Where 2 buses go to banstead and 1 to Epsom), a frequency of 3bph for W7 departures from Finsbury Park should be extended to North Finchley while keeping it's existing frequencies between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park (No change to the existing W7 Timetable) The extended route to North Finchley follows the 234 to Creighton Avenue, where it serves the entire Creighton Avenue and turns right, following the 263 into North Finchley. I believe the benefits can bring schools along Creighton Avenue a more direct trip towards Muswell Hill/North Finchley or even Finsbury Park and Crouch Hill as well as offloading W7 Hoppers onto the 234, and creating links between Muswell Hill and Finchley Memorial Hopsital. There is no change towards existing W7 Passengers in terms of frequency for it's short intervals between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park. I have thought before the W7 could extend to Finchley Central via Fortis Green & East End Road, though the 144 might be a more appropriate route for this extension. The 134 to North Finchley is definitely sufficient.
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Post by busboy17 on Apr 17, 2024 10:22:05 GMT
Idk if this is the right place for this
But I had a theory for a different version of the SL4
Aldgate Limehouse Westferry Canary Wharf East India Station North Greenwich Blackheath Royal Standard Sun in the sands Blackheath Station Lee Station Grove Park Plaistow Green Bromley North Bromley High Street/The Mall Bromley South
if Bromley put a round about or a situation aimilar to the 26 at waterloo where kentish way meets masons Hill then a new stand could possibly be put outside the actual station before the traffic lights but after the cab stand. a There would be a way for the bus to turn round.
If not could run to Crown Lane for LSEC?.
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Post by ucm131 on Apr 18, 2024 15:41:19 GMT
W7 is a short and sweet route that links Muswell Hill to Finsbury Park but often gets extremely packed with commuters through it's exclusive runs in crouch end and somehow ended up being one of the most popular and used routes in London. With similar running modes like the 166 (Where 2 buses go to banstead and 1 to Epsom), a frequency of 3bph for W7 departures from Finsbury Park should be extended to North Finchley while keeping it's existing frequencies between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park (No change to the existing W7 Timetable) The extended route to North Finchley follows the 234 to Creighton Avenue, where it serves the entire Creighton Avenue and turns right, following the 263 into North Finchley. I believe the benefits can bring schools along Creighton Avenue a more direct trip towards Muswell Hill/North Finchley or even Finsbury Park and Crouch Hill as well as offloading W7 Hoppers onto the 234, and creating links between Muswell Hill and Finchley Memorial Hopsital. There is no change towards existing W7 Passengers in terms of frequency for it's short intervals between Muswell Hill and Finsbury Park. You say it wont impact current W7 journeys but you may cause reliability issues if those few buses get caught up in the extension. I dont mind odd working extensions such as 166 but with regards to W7 and other routes that are working well, dont touch them unless you are supporting the success with more priority and/or buses! My idea of thought was basically 2 routes (The extended W7 being one route with seperate PVR and the exisiting W7 with it's own PVR) so they won't be affected when the extended side meets any traffic disruptions. Hence they are named the same because of their overlapping segment being 100% the same. Renumbering the extended route may cause confusion and may not be able to relieve demand effectively. The delicate nature of the W7 is wayyyy to fragile because of it's exclusive section and unlike other extension or plans people think up, W7 works as an effective tube feeder towards muswell hill for piccadilly and victoria lines, and I intend to keep that nature of the existing W7 because the route is simple and is already as perfect as it is. There are 3 schools alongside Creighton Avenue, which is why the extension to serve Creighton Avenue as a whole is because 1) no bus routes serve this segment and 2) the 234 can be packed because it runs on single deckers when these 3 schools dismisses in the afternoon. I don't really see a direct link from muswell hill to finchley memorial hospital, but I didnt expect the hopsital was on a hill and It apprently takes 7 minutes walk from the bus stop downhill. As a result, Instead of North finchley to be the extension point, Finchley Memorial Hospital should be the extension point.
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Post by aaron1 on Apr 19, 2024 8:54:45 GMT
326 to be extended to Brent Cross West Station via 189 reason so give like Hendon Central and other bits of route a link to Brent Cross West and free up space at Brent Cross Shopping Centre
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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 19, 2024 10:16:06 GMT
326 to be extended to Brent Cross West Station via 189 reason so give like Hendon Central and other bits of route a link to Brent Cross West and free up space at Brent Cross Shopping Centre That is happening. Just needs the roads to be completed yet.
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Post by britishguy54 on Apr 22, 2024 14:19:42 GMT
Part of me wonders how past consultations and route changes could have gone differently. Such as the old iteration of the 87 surviving. Actually, I’ll have a go at that now.
87: Romford - Beckton
Romford Market Romford Station Queen’s Hospital Becontree Heath Becontree, Martins Corner Barking Bus Garage Barking Station Barking Town Centre East Ham, Newham Town Hall East Ham, Central Park Beckton Bus Station
The domino effect would change things, obviously, such as the EL2 never getting extended to Becontree Heath, or weird ideas like the 5 getting diverted to Dagenham Heathway instead for space. I wonder how else things could have gone differently.
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Post by londonbusbro on Apr 25, 2024 15:36:18 GMT
they should reroute the at 36 at paddington up towards cricklewood like the 16 does to give a connection from cricklewood to places like baker street and victoria like the 16 use to. also i get that the 36 is along route so many they could cut it back to peckham. for the queen's park section it could be replaced by the 16 so they kinda swap roles. a way of resolving this would just be giving bringing back the og 16 but that aint gonna happen
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 25, 2024 15:40:30 GMT
they should reroute the at 36 at paddington up towards cricklewood like the 16 does to give a connection from cricklewood to places like baker street and victoria like the 16 use to. also i get that the 36 is along route so many they could cut it back to peckham. for the queen's park section it could be replaced by the 16 so they kinda swap roles. a way of resolving this would just be giving bringing back the og 16 but that aint gonna happen The 36 is already a long route & will be sitting in Kilburn traffic if extended to Cricklewood, I really don’t think diverting the 36 to Cricklewood is needed or viable. It also makes sense to keep the 36 at New Cross, since it can just stand in the bus garage.
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Post by londonbusbro on Apr 25, 2024 15:49:48 GMT
this is correct but how could we fix this problem you think I think extending the 16 back to victoria or at least some of the way
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Post by londonbusbro on Apr 25, 2024 16:12:18 GMT
this is correct but how could we fix this problem you think I think extending the 16 back to victoria or at least some of the way oh yeah the 189 does cover baker street still and marble arch so they could just extend it to victoria via the old 16
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