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Post by Trident on Oct 12, 2010 15:14:46 GMT
Oh and I couldn't help but have a grin at Lee McKenzie this weekend... She just looked terified every time she was on camera. Still, very easy on the eye!! And did an ok job in what must be a very intimidating job despite looking terified!! I'll see your Lee McKenzie and raise (parden the pun  ) you with Suzie Perry. Or how about the other one who is currently presenting MotoGP (Jennie??? I cant remember ;D) |
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Post by lc1 on Oct 12, 2010 16:24:34 GMT
I'll see your Lee McKenzie and raise (parden the pun ) you with Suzie Perry. Or how about the other one who is currently presenting MotoGP (Jennie??? I cant remember ;D) Jennie Gow. I think I'll stick with Suzi, unless Kirsty Gallacher starts presenting Motorsport ;D |
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Post by Trident on Oct 12, 2010 16:46:56 GMT
Or how about the other one who is currently presenting MotoGP (Jennie??? I cant remember ;D) Jennie Gow. I think I'll stick with Suzi, unless Kirsty Gallacher starts presenting Motorsport ;D We need more girls presenting! ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 13:08:08 GMT
Jennie Gow. I think I'll stick with Suzi, unless Kirsty Gallacher starts presenting Motorsport ;D We need more girls presenting! ;D ;D Now you're talking my language...  I think F1 would get more viewers if this starts to happen... ;D |
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Post by Trident on Oct 13, 2010 15:05:26 GMT
We need more girls presenting! ;D ;D Now you're talking my language... I think F1 would get more viewers if this starts to happen... ;D Yeah, bring Jake Humphrey and Lee Mckenzie as the presenters, and kick EJ out to do the interviews ;D |
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Post by Paul on Oct 15, 2010 23:03:49 GMT
OK, the important stuff first. If we're talking female motorsports presenters the debate begins and ends with Georgie Thompson doing A1GP on Sky Now, the little spat between Madstuntman and ajw. I hope I'm not treading on any toes here, but I just wanted to add some thoughts and comments It's true to say that Red Bull the company are in F1 to sell syrupy fizzy drink. In that aspect they are no different to Vodafone selling mobiles or Marlboro selling fags. Red Bull, though, went one step further by purchasing the entire Jaguar team. I remember thinking it was a bit of a shame at first since there were strong rumours at the time that Ford were going to re-brand the team as Ford and enter as a full manufacturer team for the first time. I even remember an artists impression of what the Ford F1 car would look like - looked bloody fantastic! Anyway, back to Red Bull. They did enter F1 first in the 1990s as the title sponsor of Sauber. But Red Bull's motorsport involvement goes back much further. As far back as the late 1980s, the company backed Gerhard Berger and Dietrich Mateschitz saw F1, motorsport and other 'extreme' sports as the perfect way to advertise his product to the market he wanted to reach ie 16-35s. You'd have to say his methods have worked. Think energy drink and you automatically think Red Bull The actual racing team, up as far as Christian Horner, at Red Bull are as in it for the racing as the teams at McLaren, Ferrari et al. The management team, including Mateschitz and Dr Helmut Marko are big, big F1 fans (Marko used to be a driver), but if Red Bull - the product - wasn't getting the exposure, then Red Bull wouldn't have their team. On that basis, you have to say the future of the team isn't as secure as a McLaren or a Ferrari If a Vodafone or a Marlboro pulled their sponsorship, McLaren and Ferrari would remain in F1. If Red Bull decide F1 isn't where they want to be any more then the future of the team ends up in severe doubt. Without the Red Bull money the team would struggle massively I can understand where Madstuntman is coming from when he says he doesn't like the team. I can't say that they are a particular favourite of mine. When it comes down to it, you're supporting not so much a team as a product. Of course, I don't particuarly like McLaren either - too cold and clinical for me (improving under Martin Whitmarsh though) - but I have massive respect for what they have achieved. That respect isn't there with Red Bull because, quite frankly, they haven't achieved anything yet. Of course, it's looking increasingly likely they will achieve something this year and then, maybe, they can start to build a legacy |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 23:22:20 GMT
O I don't particuarly like McLaren either - too cold and clinical for me (improving under Martin Whitmarsh though) - but I have massive respect for what they have achieved. That respect isn't there with Red Bull because, quite frankly, they haven't achieved anything yet. Of course, it's looking increasingly likely they will achieve something this year and then, maybe, they can start to build a legacy You gotta have a huge amount of respect for McLaren as back in the late 1980s they have two of the most best team mates/drivers if you will in F1 of that time. Alain Prost and Aryton Senna you can't go wrong there. But wonder if Bruno Senna has the gift that Uncle Senna had cause I don't think he putting in alot of his potential in his Hispania Car. Since his death at 1994 F1 has changed dramatically within safety features but I wonder how long F1 would of worked on them if Senna didn't crashed and was still alive now. |
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Post by Paul on Oct 16, 2010 12:20:39 GMT
On Bruno;
He tested the Honda at the end of 2008 and seriously impressed the team. Had Honda stuck around, then Bruno would have been driving what turned into the Brawn BGP001. His career would have taken off. He probably wouldn't have beaten Button, but he would have made an incredible impression
He simply can't do that in the HRT car. All he can do is beat his team-mate. He just about beat Karun Chandhok and he's absolutely owned Sakon Yamamoto but he suffered a setback when Christian Klien came in for Singapore and thrashed him
I'm not sure where he goes from here. I suspect he'll only remain with HRT if he can bring more money. I fear the only thing keeping Bruno in the sport in the short to medium term will be his surname
And on the safety. If it hadn't been Ayrton Senna and Roland Ratzenberger, it would have been someone else. It sounds horribly morbid but F1 was well overdue a death at the time. To a certain extent, teams and drivers had become somewhat blase about safety. Imola 1994 changed all that and the sport has become infinitely safer
But what I've just said there about F1 being overdue a death in 1994 holds true now. The law of averages says its only a matter of time before fate plays it fickle card over F1. Since 1994 there have been deaths in Indycar, NASCAR, Rallying and F2. Why should F1 think they are exempt? The sport is infinitely safer now than it was even five years ago but the authorities cannot plan for every contingency. And it doesn't even have to be a heavy impact. When Dale Earnhardt crashed at Daytona in 2001 the impact with the wall wasn't exactly massive. But he struck his head on the steering wheel and died of a skull fracture. It was actually Earnhardt's death that played a major part in the HANS device becoming mandatory in motorsports
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Post by Trident on Oct 17, 2010 16:34:02 GMT
O I don't particuarly like McLaren either - too cold and clinical for me (improving under Martin Whitmarsh though) - but I have massive respect for what they have achieved. That respect isn't there with Red Bull because, quite frankly, they haven't achieved anything yet. Of course, it's looking increasingly likely they will achieve something this year and then, maybe, they can start to build a legacy You gotta have a huge amount of respect for McLaren as back in the late 1980s they have two of the most best team mates/drivers if you will in F1 of that time. Alain Prost and Aryton Senna you can't go wrong there. But wonder if Bruno Senna has the gift that Uncle Senna had cause I don't think he putting in alot of his potential in his Hispania Car. Since his death at 1994 F1 has changed dramatically within safety features but I wonder how long F1 would of worked on them if Senna didn't crashed and was still alive now. It will probably end up with the same regulations like today as safety in modern F1 cars is excellent! ;D Mark Webber flipping over in Valencia shows how fine he was when he got out of the car. Credit to the F1 safety  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2010 16:45:53 GMT
You gotta have a huge amount of respect for McLaren as back in the late 1980s they have two of the most best team mates/drivers if you will in F1 of that time. Alain Prost and Aryton Senna you can't go wrong there. But wonder if Bruno Senna has the gift that Uncle Senna had cause I don't think he putting in alot of his potential in his Hispania Car. Since his death at 1994 F1 has changed dramatically within safety features but I wonder how long F1 would of worked on them if Senna didn't crashed and was still alive now. It will probably end up with the same regulations like today as safety in modern F1 cars is excellent! ;D Mark Webber flipping over in Valencia shows how fine he was when he got out of the car. Credit to the F1 safety You could tell he was OK.. The way he just chucked his steering wheel out of the car... LOOL... ;D |
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Post by Trident on Oct 17, 2010 16:50:16 GMT
It will probably end up with the same regulations like today as safety in modern F1 cars is excellent! ;D Mark Webber flipping over in Valencia shows how fine he was when he got out of the car. Credit to the F1 safety You could tell he was OK.. The way he just chucked his steering wheel out of the car... LOOL... ;D Like the way Hamilton chucked out his steering wheel in Singapore Lol Was confirmed in Autosport that Webber damaged Hamilton's gearbox in the collision at Singapore |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2010 17:54:37 GMT
You could tell he was OK.. The way he just chucked his steering wheel out of the car... LOOL... ;D Like the way Hamilton chucked out his steering wheel in Singapore Lol Was confirmed in Autosport that Webber damaged Hamilton's gearbox in the collision at Singapore Yes but Hamilton's Crash Out (Lets say Webber/Hamilton Collusion) wasn't that server then Webber's as Webber done a flip in the air.. Way Hey.. |
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Post by Trident on Oct 18, 2010 15:22:36 GMT
Like the way Hamilton chucked out his steering wheel in Singapore Lol Was confirmed in Autosport that Webber damaged Hamilton's gearbox in the collision at Singapore Yes but Hamilton's Crash Out (Lets say Webber/Hamilton Collusion) wasn't that server then Webber's as Webber done a flip in the air.. Way Hey.. Webber's Valencia incident is not too severe as it was in the frst half of the year. But Singapore was one of the crucial races that you must not lose ground on |
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Post by john on Oct 19, 2010 14:27:20 GMT
On Bruno; He tested the Honda at the end of 2008 and seriously impressed the team. Had Honda stuck around, then Bruno would have been driving what turned into the Brawn BGP001. His career would have taken off. He probably wouldn't have beaten Button, but he would have made an incredible impression He simply can't do that in the HRT car. All he can do is beat his team-mate. He just about beat Karun Chandhok and he's absolutely owned Sakon Yamamoto but he suffered a setback when Christian Klien came in for Singapore and thrashed him I'm not sure where he goes from here. I suspect he'll only remain with HRT if he can bring more money. I fear the only thing keeping Bruno in the sport in the short to medium term will be his surname And on the safety. If it hadn't been Ayrton Senna and Roland Ratzenberger, it would have been someone else. It sounds horribly morbid but F1 was well overdue a death at the time. To a certain extent, teams and drivers had become somewhat blase about safety. Imola 1994 changed all that and the sport has become infinitely safer But what I've just said there about F1 being overdue a death in 1994 holds true now. The law of averages says its only a matter of time before fate plays it fickle card over F1. Since 1994 there have been deaths in Indycar, NASCAR, Rallying and F2. Why should F1 think they are exempt? The sport is infinitely safer now than it was even five years ago but the authorities cannot plan for every contingency. And it doesn't even have to be a heavy impact. When Dale Earnhardt crashed at Daytona in 2001 the impact with the wall wasn't exactly massive. But he struck his head on the steering wheel and died of a skull fracture. It was actually Earnhardt's death that played a major part in the HANS device becoming mandatory in motorsports How there hasn't been any deaths in F1 recently is beyond me. First there was the Webber incident in Valencia, then that over the head ride in Monaco. Somehow, I suspect the next death won't just be a fatality, but possibly something more horrific. Let's just hope the safety record keeps up!! |
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Post by Paul on Oct 19, 2010 15:59:22 GMT
How there hasn't been any deaths in F1 recently is beyond me. First there was the Webber incident in Valencia, then that over the head ride in Monaco. Somehow, I suspect the next death won't just be a fatality, but possibly something more horrific. Let's just hope the safety record keeps up!! The safety crusade that Max Mosley went on after Imola 1994 was criticised by a lot of people. But those measures are directly responsible for us still having, among others, Jos Verstappen, Luciano Burti, Michael Schumacher, Jacques Villeneuve, Allan McNish and Robert Kubica with us. That there hasn't been a fatality among F1 drivers (we shouldn't forget that we have lost two marshals since 1994) since Ayrton is a combination of the safety measures and pure, dumb luck |
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