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[dominic]

It's on the TFL bus changes website.

[lundnah]

Jul 28, 2023 13:12:29 GMT route53 said:

Jul 28, 2023 11:07:11 GMT greenboy said:

Yes, it's been mentioned on here several times.

Ah, didn’t realise it had already been mentioned

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(on page 700, not page 701)

[gwiwer]

281 extension / diversion to Tolworth Station is out for consultation. The effect would be minimal. It would cease to serve the Ewell Road loop (terminal stop, stand and first northbound stop) but extend via the roundabout, Hook Rise and a new link road to stand adjacent to Tolworth station and some new homes. It then returns straight across the roundabout stopping where all the other northbound buses do which makes sense. Quite a sensible change in my opinion and one which more or less restores (and improvs upon) the old link from when peak-hour 281s ran to Chessington Industrial Estate via Tolworth station. No mention is made of any change to headway. None would be needed using the current PVR but an uplift from 10bph to 12bph would alleviate the current overcrowding which occurs at many times of day notably into and out of Hounslow and Kingston.

[JUNIOR26]

Jul 31, 2023 16:16:03 GMT gwiwer said:

281 extension / diversion to Tolworth Station is out for consultation. The effect would be minimal. It would cease to serve the Ewell Road loop (terminal stop, stand and first northbound stop) but extend via the roundabout, Hook Rise and a new link road to stand adjacent to Tolworth station and some new homes. It then returns straight across the roundabout stopping where all the other northbound buses do which makes sense. Quite a sensible change in my opinion and one which more or less restores (and improvs upon) the old link from when peak-hour 281s ran to Chessington Industrial Estate via Tolworth station. No mention is made of any change to headway. None would be needed using the current PVR but an uplift from 10bph to 12bph would alleviate the current overcrowding which occurs at many times of day notably into and out of Hounslow and Kingston.

There's already a thread I created for this. It's on the consultations thread.

[londonbuses]

From TfL bus changes page:

The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 12 August.

Route S1 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

Presumably this is because the S1 is moving from C to GM.

[ilovelondonbuses]

Jul 31, 2023 23:53:40 GMT londonbuses said:

From TfL bus changes page:

The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 12 August.

Route S1 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times.

Presumably this is because the S1 is moving from C to GM.

In addition, as a result of this move, route S1 will now be under the London General subsidiary of Go-Ahead London as Goat Road is a London General garage while Croydon is a Metrobus garage. All in theory I must add.

[londonbuses]

From TfL bus changes page:

Route X26 renumbered - 19 August 2023

From Saturday 19 August route X26, which runs between Heathrow Central Bus Station and West Croydon Bus Station via Kingston and Sutton, will be renumbered to route SL7.

The frequency of route SL7 will also be increased from a bus every 30 minutes to every 15 minutes from first bus to last bus on all days of the week.

The time of the first bus from West Croydon to Heathrow Airport on all days of the week will be changed to depart 5 minutes earlier at 0410. No change to the time of the first bus from Heathrow Airport to West Croydon.

The time of the last bus from Heathrow Airport to West Croydon will be changed to depart 15 minutes later at 0040 on all days of the week. No change to the time of the last bus from West Croydon to Heathrow Airport.

The last stop at West Croydon on route SL7 will also be changed with buses now finishing at bus stop B8 on St Michael's Road. No change to the starting point of the SL7 in West Croydon Bus Station which remains bus stop B3. At the same time route 367 will now finish at bus stop WP on Wellesley Road but continue to start from bus stop B1 in West Croydon Bus Station.

For more information on route SL7 and Superloop in general head to www.tfl.gov.uk/superloop. Times for the SL7 can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey


Improvements to route SL8 - 19 August 2023

From Saturday 19 August a new timetable will be introduced on all days of the week on route SL8. There will be changes to the times of the first and last buses and also the frequency of the service during the evenings. 

On Monday to Fridays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0530) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0550). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency after 2000 will increase from the current bus every 15 minutes to a bus every 12 minutes.

On Saturdays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0530) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0550). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency after 1930 will increase from the current bus every 15 minutes to a bus every 12 minutes.

On Sundays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0855) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0900). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency of the SL8 service on Sundays will be a bus every 12 minutes from first bus until last bus.

Times for the SL8 route can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey
 

Changes to buses from Saturday 19 August

The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 19 August.

From Saturday 19 August, when arriving at Victoria Station, routes 26 and N26 will finish at bus stop M on Victoria Street and no longer serve the bus stop on Terminus Place. There will be no change to the first stop which remains bus stop J on Wilton Road.

Route 133 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

Route 137 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

Route 417 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route E6 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Fridays. No change during the evenings or on weekends. This temporary change is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Greenford Road.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route E9 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Fridays. No change during the evenings or on weekends. This temporary change is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Greenford Road.

The new times for the above routes can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey

[southlondon413]

Aug 9, 2023 12:16:20 GMT londonbuses said:

From TfL bus changes page:

Route X26 renumbered - 19 August 2023

From Saturday 19 August route X26, which runs between Heathrow Central Bus Station and West Croydon Bus Station via Kingston and Sutton, will be renumbered to route SL7.

The frequency of route SL7 will also be increased from a bus every 30 minutes to every 15 minutes from first bus to last bus on all days of the week.

The time of the first bus from West Croydon to Heathrow Airport on all days of the week will be changed to depart 5 minutes earlier at 0410. No change to the time of the first bus from Heathrow Airport to West Croydon.

The time of the last bus from Heathrow Airport to West Croydon will be changed to depart 15 minutes later at 0040 on all days of the week. No change to the time of the last bus from West Croydon to Heathrow Airport.

The last stop at West Croydon on route SL7 will also be changed with buses now finishing at bus stop B8 on St Michael's Road. No change to the starting point of the SL7 in West Croydon Bus Station which remains bus stop B3. At the same time route 367 will now finish at bus stop WP on Wellesley Road but continue to start from bus stop B1 in West Croydon Bus Station.

For more information on route SL7 and Superloop in general head to www.tfl.gov.uk/superloop. Times for the SL7 can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey


Improvements to route SL8 - 19 August 2023

From Saturday 19 August a new timetable will be introduced on all days of the week on route SL8. There will be changes to the times of the first and last buses and also the frequency of the service during the evenings. 

On Monday to Fridays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0530) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0550). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency after 2000 will increase from the current bus every 15 minutes to a bus every 12 minutes.

On Saturdays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0530) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0550). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency after 1930 will increase from the current bus every 15 minutes to a bus every 12 minutes.

On Sundays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0855) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0900). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency of the SL8 service on Sundays will be a bus every 12 minutes from first bus until last bus.

Times for the SL8 route can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey
 

Changes to buses from Saturday 19 August

The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 19 August.

From Saturday 19 August, when arriving at Victoria Station, routes 26 and N26 will finish at bus stop M on Victoria Street and no longer serve the bus stop on Terminus Place. There will be no change to the first stop which remains bus stop J on Wilton Road.

Route 133 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

Route 137 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

Route 417 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route E6 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Fridays. No change during the evenings or on weekends. This temporary change is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Greenford Road.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route E9 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Fridays. No change during the evenings or on weekends. This temporary change is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Greenford Road.

The new times for the above routes can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey

15 minutes all day from first to last bus is imho too much. Peaks and day yes every 15 minutes but until the last bus, really TfL!? It should remain every 30 minutes after like 8pm. Mark my words give it six months and the 213 and 407 will both drop on frequency.

[Eastlondoner62]

Aug 9, 2023 12:16:20 GMT londonbuses said:

From TfL bus changes page:

Route X26 renumbered - 19 August 2023

From Saturday 19 August route X26, which runs between Heathrow Central Bus Station and West Croydon Bus Station via Kingston and Sutton, will be renumbered to route SL7.

The frequency of route SL7 will also be increased from a bus every 30 minutes to every 15 minutes from first bus to last bus on all days of the week.

The time of the first bus from West Croydon to Heathrow Airport on all days of the week will be changed to depart 5 minutes earlier at 0410. No change to the time of the first bus from Heathrow Airport to West Croydon.

The time of the last bus from Heathrow Airport to West Croydon will be changed to depart 15 minutes later at 0040 on all days of the week. No change to the time of the last bus from West Croydon to Heathrow Airport.

The last stop at West Croydon on route SL7 will also be changed with buses now finishing at bus stop B8 on St Michael's Road. No change to the starting point of the SL7 in West Croydon Bus Station which remains bus stop B3. At the same time route 367 will now finish at bus stop WP on Wellesley Road but continue to start from bus stop B1 in West Croydon Bus Station.

For more information on route SL7 and Superloop in general head to www.tfl.gov.uk/superloop. Times for the SL7 can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey


Improvements to route SL8 - 19 August 2023

From Saturday 19 August a new timetable will be introduced on all days of the week on route SL8. There will be changes to the times of the first and last buses and also the frequency of the service during the evenings. 

On Monday to Fridays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0530) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0550). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency after 2000 will increase from the current bus every 15 minutes to a bus every 12 minutes.

On Saturdays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0530) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0550). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency after 1930 will increase from the current bus every 15 minutes to a bus every 12 minutes.

On Sundays the times of first buses will change with the first bus from Uxbridge Station for White City retimed to depart at 0425 (instead of 0855) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0510 (instead of 0900). Last buses will now depart Uxbridge Station for White City at 2350 (instead of 2100) and from White City for Uxbridge Station at 0024 (instead of 2200). The frequency of the SL8 service on Sundays will be a bus every 12 minutes from first bus until last bus.

Times for the SL8 route can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey
 

Changes to buses from Saturday 19 August

The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 19 August.

From Saturday 19 August, when arriving at Victoria Station, routes 26 and N26 will finish at bus stop M on Victoria Street and no longer serve the bus stop on Terminus Place. There will be no change to the first stop which remains bus stop J on Wilton Road.

Route 133 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

Route 137 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

Route 417 will have a new timetable on all days of the week with minor changes to times. 

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route E6 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Fridays. No change during the evenings or on weekends. This temporary change is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Greenford Road.

A temporary timetable will be introduced on route E9 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 13 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Fridays. No change during the evenings or on weekends. This temporary change is to give buses more time to complete journeys during HS2 works on Greenford Road.

The new times for the above routes can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey

What a random change to the 26 which will do nothing but inconvenience people.

[southlondonbus]

Aug 9, 2023 12:23:59 GMT southlondon413 said:

Aug 9, 2023 12:16:20 GMT londonbuses said:

From TfL bus changes page:

15 minutes all day from first to last bus is imho too much. Peaks and day yes every 15 minutes but until the last bus, really TfL!? It should remain every 30 minutes after like 8pm. Mark my words give it six months and the 213 and 407 will both drop on frequency.

Same with the SL8 (607). Every 12 mins all evening up until last bus and all say Sunday. I know it's partly lost the 427 but I think that's a bit frequent.

[southlondon413]

Aug 9, 2023 12:38:34 GMT southlondonbus said:

Aug 9, 2023 12:23:59 GMT southlondon413 said:

15 minutes all day from first to last bus is imho too much. Peaks and day yes every 15 minutes but until the last bus, really TfL!? It should remain every 30 minutes after like 8pm. Mark my words give it six months and the 213 and 407 will both drop on frequency.

Same with the SL8 (607). Every 12 mins all evening up until last bus and all say Sunday. I know it's partly lost the 427 but I think that's a bit frequent.

Get ready for a cut to the 207, it’s coming.

[southlondonbus]

Aug 9, 2023 12:39:41 GMT southlondon413 said:

Aug 9, 2023 12:38:34 GMT southlondonbus said:

Same with the SL8 (607). Every 12 mins all evening up until last bus and all say Sunday. I know it's partly lost the 427 but I think that's a bit frequent.

Get ready for a cut to the 207, it’s coming.

I wouldn't be surprised if both the 207 and 427 drop to every 10 and 12 mins respectively.

[southlondon413]

Aug 9, 2023 12:42:27 GMT southlondonbus said:

Aug 9, 2023 12:39:41 GMT southlondon413 said:

Get ready for a cut to the 207, it’s coming.

I wouldn't be surprised if both the 207 and 427 drop to every 10 and 12 mins respectively.

I’d say 12 and 15.

[southlondonbus]

Aug 9, 2023 12:43:10 GMT southlondon413 said:

Aug 9, 2023 12:42:27 GMT southlondonbus said:

I wouldn't be surprised if both the 207 and 427 drop to every 10 and 12 mins respectively.

I’d say 12 and 15.

Similar to the 213 and 407 could both end up every 15 mins.

[YX10FFN]

Aug 9, 2023 12:26:37 GMT Eastlondoner62 said:

Aug 9, 2023 12:16:20 GMT londonbuses said:

From TfL bus changes page:

What a random change to the 26 which will do nothing but inconvenience people.

It will, however, decrease running time on the terminus routing, with a simple loop around Vauxhall Bridge Road and Wilton Street. I still think the Grosvenor Gardens 44 stand is best suited to the 26, with the 44 moving to Vauxhall Bridge Road.