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Post by JUNIOR26 on Dec 20, 2023 14:57:08 GMT
Route 278 changes at Ruislip Station - 6 January 2024
There will be a change to the first and last stops at Ruislip Station from Saturday 6 January.
Route 278 buses will now set down passengers at the alighting point on Station Approach at Ruislip Station. At the same time route 278 will no longer pick up from stop B when heading towards Heathrow Airport. Route 278 buses towards Heathrow will now pick up from bus stop C on Ruislip High Street instead.
There is no change to the timetable with route 278 continuing to run every 15 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 20 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. There is no change to the times of first and last buses on any day of the week.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Dec 20, 2023 14:58:40 GMT
Route 278 changes at Ruislip Station - 6 January 2024 There will be a change to the first and last stops at Ruislip Station from Saturday 6 January. Route 278 buses will now set down passengers at the alighting point on Station Approach at Ruislip Station. At the same time route 278 will no longer pick up from stop B when heading towards Heathrow Airport. Route 278 buses towards Heathrow will now pick up from bus stop C on Ruislip High Street instead. There is no change to the timetable with route 278 continuing to run every 15 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 20 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. There is no change to the times of first and last buses on any day of the week. 278 will not pick up passengers from Ruislip Station going towards Heathrow but passengers towards Ruislip will alight at the Station terminus. |
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Post by redbus on Dec 20, 2023 16:17:00 GMT
I believe Kilmington Road, Howsman Road and Verdun Road is the loop the 33 uses to turn around and stand, so maybe there have been resident complaints about the number of buses using those roads? In the latest edition of the Barnes Bugle local newsletter there was this...
Since Hammersmith Bridge closed in 2019 the residents of some formerly quiet residential streets in north Barnes have got used to looking out of their windows to see buses driving past. It's been the cause of much local disquiet and for quite some time the Barnes Community Association has been working with local Councillors, TfL and council officers to find a permanent solution to the bus diversions. Howsman, Lonsdale, Kilmington and Verdun Roads are subjected to hundreds of empty buses using the roads as an end of route bus terminus for the 33, 209 and 485 services. Following a council-led site visit with TfL and Bus Operators back in October, TfL has now agreed to look at the current arrangements as to offer a sustainable long term plan, and are currently looking into alternative solutions.
Perhaps there needs to be renewed efforts to get the bridge repaired and buses able to use it again!!! Or is that too obvious a solution. Once buses can go back over Hammersmith Bridge the problem is resolved. |
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Post by YX10FFN on Dec 20, 2023 16:25:36 GMT
I believe Kilmington Road, Howsman Road and Verdun Road is the loop the 33 uses to turn around and stand, so maybe there have been resident complaints about the number of buses using those roads? In the latest edition of the Barnes Bugle local newsletter there was this...
Since Hammersmith Bridge closed in 2019 the residents of some formerly quiet residential streets in north Barnes have got used to looking out of their windows to see buses driving past. It's been the cause of much local disquiet and for quite some time the Barnes Community Association has been working with local Councillors, TfL and council officers to find a permanent solution to the bus diversions. Howsman, Lonsdale, Kilmington and Verdun Roads are subjected to hundreds of empty buses using the roads as an end of route bus terminus for the 33, 209 and 485 services. Following a council-led site visit with TfL and Bus Operators back in October, TfL has now agreed to look at the current arrangements as to offer a sustainable long term plan, and are currently looking into alternative solutions.
This is a ridiculous line of complaint. Any kind of terminal arrangement at Castelnau was going to have to use side streets, and streets that are able to manage buses. What the "disquiet" should be about is towards the government to organise and partly finance the rebuilding of Hammersmith Bridge which will eliminate the need to turn using those streets. This decision means that residents (many of them elderly) of Kilmington Road and Howsman Road will no longer have doorstep service towards Richmond on the 419, and I assume funnily enough that a complaint will be lodged in that regard shortly aswell. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 20, 2023 16:33:04 GMT
I believe Kilmington Road, Howsman Road and Verdun Road is the loop the 33 uses to turn around and stand, so maybe there have been resident complaints about the number of buses using those roads? In the latest edition of the Barnes Bugle local newsletter there was this... Since Hammersmith Bridge closed in 2019 the residents of some formerly quiet residential streets in north Barnes have got used to looking out of their windows to see buses driving past. It's been the cause of much local disquiet and for quite some time the Barnes Community Association has been working with local Councillors, TfL and council officers to find a permanent solution to the bus diversions. Howsman, Lonsdale, Kilmington and Verdun Roads are subjected to hundreds of empty buses using the roads as an end of route bus terminus for the 33, 209 and 485 services. Following a council-led site visit with TfL and Bus Operators back in October, TfL has now agreed to look at the current arrangements as to offer a sustainable long term plan, and are currently looking into alternative solutions.
The only alternative would possibly be to run the 209 and 485 thou I'm not sure what turns are allowed from Lonsdale Road into Barnes High Street. If they can turn into it then they could do like the 533 does without having to go round the backstreets. |
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Post by SILENCED on Dec 20, 2023 16:58:41 GMT
In the latest edition of the Barnes Bugle local newsletter there was this...
Since Hammersmith Bridge closed in 2019 the residents of some formerly quiet residential streets in north Barnes have got used to looking out of their windows to see buses driving past. It's been the cause of much local disquiet and for quite some time the Barnes Community Association has been working with local Councillors, TfL and council officers to find a permanent solution to the bus diversions. Howsman, Lonsdale, Kilmington and Verdun Roads are subjected to hundreds of empty buses using the roads as an end of route bus terminus for the 33, 209 and 485 services. Following a council-led site visit with TfL and Bus Operators back in October, TfL has now agreed to look at the current arrangements as to offer a sustainable long term plan, and are currently looking into alternative solutions.
This is a ridiculous line of complaint. Any kind of terminal arrangement at Castelnau was going to have to use side streets, and streets that are able to manage buses. What the "disquiet" should be about is towards the government to organise and partly finance the rebuilding of Hammersmith Bridge which will eliminate the need to turn using those streets. This decision means that residents (many of them elderly) of Kilmington Road and Howsman Road will no longer have doorstep service towards Richmond on the 419, and I assume funnily enough that a complaint will be lodged in that regard shortly aswell. The government offers to split the bill 3 ways with H&F and TfL. It's up to the owners to organise the repair ... If not partially funding, what is it? |
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 20, 2023 17:07:51 GMT
This is a ridiculous line of complaint. Any kind of terminal arrangement at Castelnau was going to have to use side streets, and streets that are able to manage buses. What the "disquiet" should be about is towards the government to organise and partly finance the rebuilding of Hammersmith Bridge which will eliminate the need to turn using those streets. This decision means that residents (many of them elderly) of Kilmington Road and Howsman Road will no longer have doorstep service towards Richmond on the 419, and I assume funnily enough that a complaint will be lodged in that regard shortly aswell. The government offers to split the bill 3 ways with H&F and TfL. It's up to the owners to organise the repair ... If not partially funding, what is it? Tbh iv lost track of what the progress of the bridge is now. Work is going on at the moment but I'm not sure if it's just stabilisation works. |
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Post by greenboy on Dec 20, 2023 17:27:22 GMT
In the latest edition of the Barnes Bugle local newsletter there was this...
Since Hammersmith Bridge closed in 2019 the residents of some formerly quiet residential streets in north Barnes have got used to looking out of their windows to see buses driving past. It's been the cause of much local disquiet and for quite some time the Barnes Community Association has been working with local Councillors, TfL and council officers to find a permanent solution to the bus diversions. Howsman, Lonsdale, Kilmington and Verdun Roads are subjected to hundreds of empty buses using the roads as an end of route bus terminus for the 33, 209 and 485 services. Following a council-led site visit with TfL and Bus Operators back in October, TfL has now agreed to look at the current arrangements as to offer a sustainable long term plan, and are currently looking into alternative solutions.
This is a ridiculous line of complaint. Any kind of terminal arrangement at Castelnau was going to have to use side streets, and streets that are able to manage buses. What the "disquiet" should be about is towards the government to organise and partly finance the rebuilding of Hammersmith Bridge which will eliminate the need to turn using those streets. This decision means that residents (many of them elderly) of Kilmington Road and Howsman Road will no longer have doorstep service towards Richmond on the 419, and I assume funnily enough that a complaint will be lodged in that regard shortly aswell. I'm not really surprised about residents complaints... www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/life-divided-neighbourhood-struggle-sleep-28042240As for the bridge itself aren't we still waiting on Hammersmith and Fulham Council? I must admit I've lost track in this long running saga. |
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Post by gwiwer on Dec 20, 2023 22:10:17 GMT
There is a lot of NIMBYism around Barnes. Buses are definitely not wanted by a vocal and influential minority. The same minority who perhaps would like personal parking spaces for their very expensive top-of-the-range personal transport right outside their homes.
There is also a significant demand for bus travel to and from Barnes and there will be again once the bridge is reopened between Barnes and Hammersmith. It's just a tad too far to walk comfortably for many people hence the success (and much-improved headway) of the 533.
They can't have it both ways. No-one asked for the bridge to close. There are few reasonable alternatives to turning buses around Barnes village and the riverside streets where the complaints are coming from. There is a one-bus stand at Barnes Pond, the village itself gets congested and there isn't an obvious option to create a temporary stand facing south on Castelnau.
The buses will continue to turn around the houses - possibly on a slightly different LOR to that currently in use - until the bridge reopens. And the 419 will follow the same route in both directions in future to avoid a very short one-way deviation which happens to offer some of those very expensive houses a door-step bus service because just 200m or so of the route in one direction only is H&R. A case of having cake and eating it?
In other news I was on a 33 recently and about to hop out at Barnes station rather than face the walk over the bridge to reach my eventual destination. A passenger, apparently not a regular, asked the driver why no buses were going past Castelnau. The driver offered the "TfL Shrug" without speaking but a "helpful" passenger on board offered the advice that "The Green Line still goes over the bridge to Hammersmith" .........
Oh really? Quite apart from all the barricades it would have to leap when was the last 714, 715 or 716 again??? I think you've missed it, love.
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Post by YX10FFN on Dec 20, 2023 22:31:14 GMT
This is a ridiculous line of complaint. Any kind of terminal arrangement at Castelnau was going to have to use side streets, and streets that are able to manage buses. What the "disquiet" should be about is towards the government to organise and partly finance the rebuilding of Hammersmith Bridge which will eliminate the need to turn using those streets. This decision means that residents (many of them elderly) of Kilmington Road and Howsman Road will no longer have doorstep service towards Richmond on the 419, and I assume funnily enough that a complaint will be lodged in that regard shortly aswell. The government offers to split the bill 3 ways with H&F and TfL. It's up to the owners to organise the repair ... If not partially funding, what is it? The problem with the financial situation as it stands is H&F simply don't have the resources to commit as much money as the government want them to. The whole reason why they are responsible for this in the first place is rather ridiculous and was a result of vague task distribution following the dissolution of the GLC- I believe Hammersmith Bridge maintenance went to H&F because the borough had the name "Hammersmith" in it implying they were the more relevant authority. If H&F had the money that others want them to provide then this would all have been over a long time ago. The government initially wanted H&F to foot the entire bill... |
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 20, 2023 23:03:51 GMT
The government offers to split the bill 3 ways with H&F and TfL. It's up to the owners to organise the repair ... If not partially funding, what is it? The problem with the financial situation as it stands is H&F simply don't have the resources to commit as much money as the government want them to. The whole reason why they are responsible for this in the first place is rather ridiculous and was a result of vague task distribution following the dissolution of the GLC- I believe Hammersmith Bridge maintenance went to H&F because the borough had the name "Hammersmith" in it implying they were the more relevant authority. If H&F had the money that others want them to provide then this would all have been over a long time ago. The government initially wanted H&F to foot the entire bill... At the end of the day H&F should have been doing regular maintenance checks and repairs, detailed checks every six years aren’t enough. They failed to do so and now the situation is where it is. H&F cut their maintenance budget by 3/4 as far back as 2006 according to their own website. Neighbouring Wandsworth has no issues maintaining its bridges and does so to a very high standard. H&F have one major bridge to maintain and a small handful of others. This is a problem of H&Fs own making and it isn’t right to make someone in Manchester or York contribute through their taxes for what amounts to pure council incompetence. The government was right to push them initially to pay for the complete repair, but wrong to back down. |
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Post by TB123 on Dec 20, 2023 23:22:17 GMT
The problem with the financial situation as it stands is H&F simply don't have the resources to commit as much money as the government want them to. The whole reason why they are responsible for this in the first place is rather ridiculous and was a result of vague task distribution following the dissolution of the GLC- I believe Hammersmith Bridge maintenance went to H&F because the borough had the name "Hammersmith" in it implying they were the more relevant authority. If H&F had the money that others want them to provide then this would all have been over a long time ago. The government initially wanted H&F to foot the entire bill... At the end of the day H&F should have been doing regular maintenance checks and repairs, detailed checks every six years aren’t enough. They failed to do so and now the situation is where it is. H&F cut their maintenance budget by 3/4 as far back as 2006 according to their own website. Neighbouring Wandsworth has no issues maintaining its bridges and does so to a very high standard. H&F have one major bridge to maintain and a small handful of others. This is a problem of H&Fs own making and it isn’t right to make someone in Manchester or York contribute through their taxes for what amounts to pure council incompetence. The government was right to push them initially to pay for the complete repair, but wrong to back down. Hammersmith and Fulham was a Tory council back in 2006 that cut the budgets. Of course when Labour returned in 2014 Tory austerity was in full flow. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Dec 21, 2023 9:04:35 GMT
Route 278 changes at Ruislip Station - 6 January 2024 There will be a change to the first and last stops at Ruislip Station from Saturday 6 January. Route 278 buses will now set down passengers at the alighting point on Station Approach at Ruislip Station. At the same time route 278 will no longer pick up from stop B when heading towards Heathrow Airport. Route 278 buses towards Heathrow will now pick up from bus stop C on Ruislip High Street instead. There is no change to the timetable with route 278 continuing to run every 15 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 20 minutes during the evening and all day on Sundays. There is no change to the times of first and last buses on any day of the week. 278 will not pick up passengers from Ruislip Station going towards Heathrow but passengers towards Ruislip will alight at the Station terminus. What’s the logic behind that? Bus stops are too cramped at the station? |
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Post by Paul on Dec 21, 2023 11:16:08 GMT
Those using buses around the Plumstead Garage area can expect a few delays and diversions from next Wednesday when Plumstead Bridge is closed for approximately 10 days. I believe the 53 and 122 are to be curtailed to Plumstead Common and Woolwich respectively while there are diversions in place for routes that would usually travel between Woolwich and Plumstead. Pettman Crescent is due to become temporarily two way but I should imagine the whole area will be severely disrupted for a while - the only saving grace is that traffic is generally lighter in the days after Christmas
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Post by londonbuses on Dec 21, 2023 14:00:37 GMT
Changes to bus stop arrangements in Croydon Town Centre 13 January 2024: From Saturday 13 January there will be changes to the stops served by buses in Croydon Town Centre with some minor routeing changes to allow buses to reach the new stops and better serve the new road layouts in the area. The stopping arrangement changes are as follows: Routes 60 towards Streatham and 109/N109 towards Brixton will serve bus stop KL on St. George's Walk instead of stop KC on Park Lane. Routes 119 towards Bromley, 312 towards Norwood Junction and 433 & 466 towards Addington Village will serve bus stop KM on St. George's Walk instead of stop KC on Park Lane. Routes 166 towards West Croydon, 407 towards Sutton and 645 towards Waddon will serve bus stop KK on St. George's Walk instead of stop KD on Park Lane. Routes 455 towards Wallington, 468 towards Elephant & Castle, N68 towards Tottenham Court Road and N250 towards Brixton will serve bus stop KD instead of KC on Park Lane. Route 312 towards South Croydon will serve bus stop KH instead of KJ on Park Street. There will be no changes to timetables on any of the above routes. Times from the revised stops will be available soon for each route in our journey planner tool www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journeyChanges to buses from Saturday 13 January 2024: The following timetable changes will take place from Saturday 13 January. A temporary timetable will be introduced on route 1 which will widen the frequency of the service to a bus every 9-10 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 13 minutes during the evenings and all day on Sundays. This temporary timetable will give buses more time to complete journeys during the closure of Eversholt Street in the Euston area. Route 603 will have a new timetable on schooldays with minor changes to times. Route 603 will be operated by Metroline from this date. The new times for the above routes will be available in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey |
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