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Post by joefrombow on Mar 5, 2024 14:45:10 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 12, 2024 15:03:22 GMT
Such a shame as they looked decent enough. Raises a lot of questions over GWR's order for the Greenford branch line. I think those ones are battery electric. That BBC article mentions a lot of wheel flats and other errors. The Island Line has jointed track, perhaps it's adding to the wear on the wheels. Also the tunnel at Ryde St John's Rd floods a lot. Doubt these will last 30 weeks, let alone 30 years like the trains before Even LNWR got rid of their Vivarail stuff. They were a plucky start up, but re imagining Tube trains for the mainline was never going to work...
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Post by ADH45258 on Mar 12, 2024 15:55:52 GMT
Such a shame as they looked decent enough. Raises a lot of questions over GWR's order for the Greenford branch line. I think those ones are battery electric. That BBC article mentions a lot of wheel flats and other errors. The Island Line has jointed track, perhaps it's adding to the wear on the wheels. Also the tunnel at Ryde St John's Rd floods a lot. Doubt these will last 30 weeks, let alone 30 years like the trains before Even LNWR got rid of their Vivarail stuff. They were a plucky start up, but re imagining Tube trains for the mainline was never going to work... I think the general idea of using tube trains for the rail network is fine, but the problem is the age of the D-stock. Whatever renovations you do, the basis of the D-train is still old technology. Certainly older than the oldest remaining conventional trains on the UK network like Class 150s. The Island Line is unique as the route can only fit smaller trains, but I'm not sure the D-Train was the right solution at Greenford, Bletchley-Bedford or North Wales.
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 12, 2024 18:32:05 GMT
Such a shame as they looked decent enough. Raises a lot of questions over GWR's order for the Greenford branch line. I think those ones are battery electric. That BBC article mentions a lot of wheel flats and other errors. The Island Line has jointed track, perhaps it's adding to the wear on the wheels. Also the tunnel at Ryde St John's Rd floods a lot. Doubt these will last 30 weeks, let alone 30 years like the trains before Even LNWR got rid of their Vivarail stuff. They were a plucky start up, but re imagining Tube trains for the mainline was never going to work... I think the general idea of using tube trains for the rail network is fine, but the problem is the age of the D-stock. Whatever renovations you do, the basis of the D-train is still old technology. Certainly older than the oldest remaining conventional trains on the UK network like Class 150s. The Island Line is unique as the route can only fit smaller trains, but I'm not sure the D-Train was the right solution at Greenford, Bletchley-Bedford or North Wales. It's a shame they folded, I read somewhere that First / MTR bought the remains of the biz (perhaps as the Greenford project was well advanced) but with the LNWR route, sticking Ford Transit engines in them and pushing the tired traction motors to 60 every day (I doubt they got much above 45 on the line between Barking and Upminster) was brave... even more brave to put them in deepest Wales, no doubt on an isolated single track line. It was great seeing the 484s but they were not cut out (no pun intended) for the uber salty Ryde Pier where they will rust quicker than an Austin Montego, and running flat out to Shanklin on old jointed track would help the already old wheels and bogies. The fact LNWR went back to the original 150s says it all
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 14, 2024 16:13:11 GMT
It's a shame they folded, I read somewhere that First / MTR bought the remains of the biz (perhaps as the Greenford project was well advanced) but with the LNWR route, sticking Ford Transit engines in them and pushing the tired traction motors to 60 every day (I doubt they got much above 45 on the line between Barking and Upminster) was brave... You're right, not much! (August 2012)
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 15, 2024 4:38:19 GMT
It's a shame they folded, I read somewhere that First / MTR bought the remains of the biz (perhaps as the Greenford project was well advanced) but with the LNWR route, sticking Ford Transit engines in them and pushing the tired traction motors to 60 every day (I doubt they got much above 45 on the line between Barking and Upminster) was brave... You're right, not much! (August 2012) Lol very good, you should Photoshop for Kate Middleton Is the artist formerly known as Vivarail going to fix any of the 484s on the Isle of Wight or are they now waiting for Picadilly Line stuff to be cascaded to them?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 15, 2024 5:16:49 GMT
The Isle of Wight 484s are maintained by SWR and are awaiting wheel set replacement and flood damage repair.
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