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Post by snoggle on Feb 22, 2015 18:44:54 GMT
It's not confirmed but I think it's very unlikely those changes made in the consultation will be dropped. oh come on isent it obvious tfl are going to go through with the new addington proposals? anything to save money and there actually quite decent changes that shouldhave happend ages ago No it is not obvious even if you are convinced it is. Clearly TfL want to save money and rationalise parts of the local network in New Addington. However as I have said before there has been a fair amount of local opposition to the loss of frequency, broken links and stand positions on the revised network. There was also reported resistance to the 359 extension. Local councillors have got involved - I've seen their webpages. Now TfL *might* ignore all of the responses and the political aspects but with a general election looming and candidates wanting to make a name for themselves then I doubt they would be quite so clumsy. Parts of Croydon Borough are distinctly marginal and the Tory candidates for the local constituencies will be able to call up Boris and moan like hell if they think TfL isn't paying attention to them. That's the reality of what can go on even if most folks would never be aware of such things. I would also point out that as we get closer to the election then TfL will get caught up in the "purdah" period which prevents changes, announcements or decision making that could be seen as overtly political in their nature. I would not be surprised to see the New Addington changes being postponed until after 7 May 2015 rather than happening in April as I think most people expect. It is worth bearing in mind that this is a rare instance of TfL doing a "network review" rather than just having tender changes clicking through on the normal cycle. Therefore there is more substance to the changes than would normally occur and that has raised the political profile. We must all be patient and *wait* no matter how frustrating it is or how "obvious" we might think the end result will be. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 22, 2015 18:58:06 GMT
It's not confirmed but I think it's very unlikely those changes made in the consultation will be dropped. oh come on isent it obvious tfl are going to go through with the new addington proposals? anything to save money and there actually quite decent changes that shouldhave happend ages ago Re-read my post - I said it's very unlikely the changes in the consultation will be dropped! I did not say it's very unlikely the changes will go through. |
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Post by sam1212 on Feb 22, 2015 20:08:21 GMT
oh come on isent it obvious tfl are going to go through with the new addington proposals? anything to save money and there actually quite decent changes that shouldhave happend ages ago Re-read my post - I said it's very unlikely the changes in the consultation will be dropped! I did not say it's very unlikely the changes will go through. i aimed that at the person before you posted that post not u lol |
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Post by allentc on Feb 23, 2015 14:12:04 GMT
I hope the current DWLs stick around as long as they can. You can't beat the lovely sound the pre-Euro 3 Darts make! Would prefer some PDLs as replacements than ENLs.
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Post by snowman on Mar 20, 2015 19:26:47 GMT
Updated list : (All presumed not to meet 2016 emissions standard)
To keep it simple, I thought it is easiest to do this on registration plate, and as now changed to 15-regs suggest cut-off should be 02-reg or earlier. So will take 13 years as a cut-off. Here is the dates registrations issued
V prefix Sep99-Feb00 (15 - 15.5 years old)
W prefix Mar00-Aug00 (14.5 - 15 years old)
X prefix Sep00-Feb01 (14 - 14.5 years old)
Y prefix Mar01-Aug01 (13.5 - 14 years old)
51 (new system) Sep01-Feb02 (13 - 13.5 years old)
02 (new system) Mar02-Aug02 (will become 13 years old Mar-Aug)
subsequently Mar-Aug matches year, Sep-Feb has 50 added
Ignore trainers and the heritage routemasters etc.
Abellio: V reg : 8041, 8044
Abellio: X reg : 8051, 8054, 8061
Abellio: Y reg : 8062
Abellio: 51 reg : 8436, 8440, 9739-9742, 9744, 9747, 9750-9754, 9757-9759, 9761, 9763, 9765-9772
Abellio: 02-reg : 8065, 8447-8551, 8460-8464, 8478-8484
Arriva London: X reg : DLA253-256
Arriva London: Y reg : DLA 273, 275, 293, 311, 315-316, DWL 1-3, 5, 6
Arriva London: 51 reg : DWL7-11, 13, 16
Arriva London : 02-reg : VLW 54, 55, 58-66
Go-Ahead London (London General): Y reg LDP151
Go-Ahead London: W reg PVL115
Go-Ahead London: X reg PVL 151-152, PVL154, PVL 159-167, PVL 169-170, PVL203
Go-Ahead London: Y reg PVL215, PVL229, PVL 232-233
Go-Ahead London (London Central): 02 reg PVL272, PVL 298-312
Go-Ahead London (Metrobus) W reg 10.7m Pointer Dart 334
London United : 51-reg DPS 587-592 (6 buses), TA204-225 (22 buses)
London United : 02-reg DPS 648-651, 653, 659, 661, 664, 668, 669, 670-680, TA229-246, 248-250, 281, 282, 284-286
London Sovereign : 51-reg DPS 586 (1 bus on loan from LU)
London Sovereign : 02-reg DPS 627-640, 655 (14 buses)
Metroline : Y-reg : VPL184
Metroline : 51-reg : DLD207, TPL 263, 265, 267, 268, DP 1009, 1010, 1012,
Metroline : 02-reg : DSD 209, 212, 214-215, TPL270
Quality Line : none
Stagecoach : 51-reg : 17530
Stagecoach : 02-reg : 17556, 17557
Tower Transit : 51-reg : TNL 33036, 33085
Tower Transit : 02-reg : TN 33185, DP 42600-42604
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Post by Connor on Mar 20, 2015 19:33:26 GMT
Arriva The Shires 6106 and 6107 (ex DLA180 and DLA206) are both W reg DLAs and still in service!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 20:18:13 GMT
Does Go Ahead's 52 reg WVL's 1-104 count as over 13 years old ? minus the ones that are withdrawn.
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Post by M1104 on Mar 20, 2015 21:55:29 GMT
Does Go Ahead's 52 reg WVL's 1-104 count as over 13 years old ? minus the ones that are withdrawn. Approaching 13 |
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Post by twobellstogo on Mar 26, 2015 9:53:41 GMT
You can now add 02-registered VWL3, 6, 9-15 to the Go-Ahead veteran bus list  |
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Post by selondon on Apr 10, 2015 10:10:16 GMT
8044 (v) and 8054 (x) are on the p13. To be fair they don't look bad for their age!
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Post by vjaska on Apr 10, 2015 10:27:47 GMT
8044 (v) and 8054 (x) are on the p13. To be fair they don't look bad for their age! Get them while you can is all I will say. |
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Post by Jack on Apr 10, 2015 10:48:55 GMT
8044 (v) and 8054 (x) are on the p13. To be fair they don't look bad for their age! Get them while you can is all I will say. We have been saying that for months bordering on years and they are still surviving lol |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 11:22:08 GMT
Haven't you forgotten the 02 reg PVLs allocated to the 213
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Post by M1104 on Apr 10, 2015 16:29:30 GMT
Haven't you forgotten the 02 reg PVLs allocated to the 213 Those buses were refurbished for the contract and will most likely be withdrawn once it ends. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 20:58:41 GMT
Tower Transit have two 51 reg DMs for the 339. The result for that route is due with the new contract starting in November. Whether it's retained or not expect them to leave this year.
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