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Post by greenboy on May 16, 2021 22:16:42 GMT
Will wait for a official announcement, but I can see SE keeping one of the Dartford routes under there operation to keep up driver knowledge for there mainline drivers when services divert via Dartford, which in my opinion I can see them keeping services via Sidcup also this could have the Vic-Dartford services running via Sidcup instead of Bexleyheath. And keeping SE/TL as the only operators to run beyond Dartford also I do wonder if this could lead to changes to TL services so TfL can simplify routes via Greenwich/Woolwich. Also this could lead to the stopping services via Kent House to all run to Orpington again and have TL run 4tph to/from Sevenoaks via Swanley. Will be interesting to see what changes could be made I think 4tph to Sevenoaks via Swanley would be a bit excessive, I think 2tph and 2tph to Orpington is about right with 4tph Victoria to Bromley South with 2tph continuing to Orpington. |
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Post by route53 on May 16, 2021 22:44:32 GMT
Is it official that LO are taking over SE? I’ve been searching across google and found nothing.
I don’t think they would take over the Gravesend services, I thought LO just wanted the rounders, the Dartford terminators, Sevenoaks via Chislehurst, the Hayes line and the Vic-Orp stoppers.
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Post by 700101 on May 16, 2021 22:58:07 GMT
Will wait for a official announcement, but I can see SE keeping one of the Dartford routes under there operation to keep up driver knowledge for there mainline drivers when services divert via Dartford, which in my opinion I can see them keeping services via Sidcup also this could have the Vic-Dartford services running via Sidcup instead of Bexleyheath. And keeping SE/TL as the only operators to run beyond Dartford also I do wonder if this could lead to changes to TL services so TfL can simplify routes via Greenwich/Woolwich. Also this could lead to the stopping services via Kent House to all run to Orpington again and have TL run 4tph to/from Sevenoaks via Swanley. Will be interesting to see what changes could be made I think 4tph to Sevenoaks via Swanley would be a bit excessive, I think 2tph and 2tph to Orpington is about right with 4tph Victoria to Bromley South with 2tph continuing to Orpington. At the moment but as TfL like to simplify its routes and this was an idea they had it could happen in the long run |
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Post by YY13VKP on May 17, 2021 7:11:47 GMT
Is it official that LO are taking over SE? I’ve been searching across google and found nothing. I don’t think they would take over the Gravesend services, I thought LO just wanted the rounders, the Dartford terminators, Sevenoaks via Chislehurst, the Hayes line and the Vic-Orp stoppers. It’s not official, and at the moment one source is reporting it. |
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Post by TB123 on May 17, 2021 7:46:56 GMT
Is it official that LO are taking over SE? I’ve been searching across google and found nothing. I don’t think they would take over the Gravesend services, I thought LO just wanted the rounders, the Dartford terminators, Sevenoaks via Chislehurst, the Hayes line and the Vic-Orp stoppers. It’s not official, and at the moment one source is reporting it. There is a wider announcement expected on Thursday from Grant Shapps re the railways. Looks like the long awaited Williams review will be published - track & train expected to be merged into one organisation known as Great Britsh Railways, with Network Rail subsumed. Then Overground-esque concession style agreements for each area. Much speculation about the future of South Eastern metro & Great Northern too..... |
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Post by twobellstogo on May 17, 2021 10:04:10 GMT
It’s not official, and at the moment one source is reporting it. There is a wider announcement expected on Thursday from Grant Shapps re the railways. Looks like the long awaited Williams review will be published - track & train expected to be merged into one organisation known as Great Britsh Railways, with Network Rail subsumed. Then Overground-esque concession style agreements for each area. Much speculation about the future of South Eastern metro & Great Northern too..... Going to be one of the most interesting train news weeks for a long, long time. |
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Post by someone on May 19, 2021 8:28:49 GMT
Is it official that LO are taking over SE? I’ve been searching across google and found nothing. I don’t think they would take over the Gravesend services, I thought LO just wanted the rounders, the Dartford terminators, Sevenoaks via Chislehurst, the Hayes line and the Vic-Orp stoppers. They probably won't take over the Mid-Kent Line as they'll convert it to the Bakerloo Line by 2035/2040. |
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Post by someone on May 19, 2021 8:37:25 GMT
NEW RAILWAY ROUTE IDEA: a line connecting the Bexleyheath line and the North Kent Line. It would branch off the Bexleyheath line west of Falconwood, following the path of the East Rochester Way. It will call at Blackfen and Blendon, before crossing over the Dartford loop line south of Crayford, with an overbridge around 200m south and 50m west of the station. It will have no stops until the only larger station on the route, a station situated directly west of the Darent Valley Hospital. The station will be called Darent Valley Hospital. The line would merge on to the North Kent Line around 150m west of Greenhithe.
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Post by someone on May 19, 2021 8:48:47 GMT
Services would include Charing Cross to Gravesend Metro stopping at all stations, and a Regional service from Charing Cross to Ramsgate via Lewisham and Faversham, both operated by Southeastern. The regional will call at:
LONDON CHARING CROSS
Waterloo East
London Bridge
Lewisham
Kidbrooke
Darent Valley Hospital
Gravesend
Strood
Rochester
Chatham
Gillingham
Rainham
Newington
Sittingbourne
Teynham
Faversham
Whitstable
Chestfield & Swalecliffe
Herne Bay
Birchington-on-Sea
Westgate-on-Sea
Margate
Broadstairs
Dumpton Park
RAMSGATE
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 11:11:47 GMT
Why is there only 1tph on the Maidstone East Line now? It was 2tph up until a month ago or so?
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Post by greenboy on May 19, 2021 11:20:52 GMT
Why in there only 1tph on the Maidstone East Line now? It was 2tph up until a month ago or so? It was reduced to hourly because of the decline in usage due to the covid situation just as the stopping service between Victoria and Bromley South was reduced from 4 to 2tph. Presumably the original services will be reinstated at some point? |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 11:23:59 GMT
Why in there only 1tph on the Maidstone East Line now? It was 2tph up until a month ago or so? It was reduced to hourly because of the decline in usage due to the covid situation just as the stopping service between Victoria and Bromley South was reduced from 4 to 2tph. Presumably the original services will be reinstated at some point? I hope they will be. |
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Post by twobellstogo on May 19, 2021 11:32:52 GMT
NEW RAILWAY ROUTE IDEA: a line connecting the Bexleyheath line and the North Kent Line. It would branch off the Bexleyheath line west of Falconwood, following the path of the East Rochester Way. It will call at Blackfen and Blendon, before crossing over the Dartford loop line south of Crayford, with an overbridge around 200m south and 50m west of the station. It will have no stops until the only larger station on the route, a station situated directly west of the Darent Valley Hospital. The station will be called Darent Valley Hospital. The line would merge on to the North Kent Line around 150m west of Greenhithe. Eek! For a whole host of reasons, this is not a good idea. Cost would be astronomical for little gain for a start. |
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Post by stuckonthe486 on May 19, 2021 11:55:57 GMT
I'd wait for an official announcement. What is SE nine magazine anyway? It is to do with Eltham/New Eltham postcode SE9 area. It's a local mag in Eltham that has a habit of tossing not-quite-accurate stuff on social media just to be "first". Is reasonably well-connected but would take with a pinch of salt. |
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Post by danorak on May 19, 2021 14:06:00 GMT
NEW RAILWAY ROUTE IDEA: a line connecting the Bexleyheath line and the North Kent Line. It would branch off the Bexleyheath line west of Falconwood, following the path of the East Rochester Way. It will call at Blackfen and Blendon, before crossing over the Dartford loop line south of Crayford, with an overbridge around 200m south and 50m west of the station. It will have no stops until the only larger station on the route, a station situated directly west of the Darent Valley Hospital. The station will be called Darent Valley Hospital. The line would merge on to the North Kent Line around 150m west of Greenhithe. Eek! For a whole host of reasons, this is not a good idea. Cost would be astronomical for little gain for a start. To me the two most useful things you could do on Southeastern infrastructure wise would be to untangle Lewisham (unlikely now that buildings have gone up around the station) and to link Northfleet and Ebbsfleet stations together. |
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