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Post by vjaska on May 29, 2016 16:57:10 GMT
Just when I thought plans for the RRS were finalised, another late moment alteration, As from Sunday 1st May buses on route J will be every 30 minutes, not every 20. Route T will remain every 20 minutes. Arriva has won back the contract for both routes, so should see a period of stability and reliability especially on route T which has been been very erratic over the past few months. I suppose this is logical, as London Overground is part soon to be full Arriva franchise. Do you know what vehicle type will be used? I hope long VWLs off route 221! Arriva operate the majority of the service with Tower Transit running a small amount of buses. Arriva buses used tend to be VLW's, DW's & LT's whilst Tower Transit throw out a few DN's.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 29, 2016 21:35:17 GMT
I suppose this is logical, as London Overground is part soon to be full Arriva franchise. Do you know what vehicle type will be used? I hope long VWLs off route 221! Arriva operate the majority of the service with Tower Transit running a small amount of buses. Arriva buses used tend to be VLW's, DW's & LT's whilst Tower Transit throw out a few DN's. Arriva must sub-contract a few bus workings to Tower Transit. I guess Arriva use whatever double-deckers are available. I am genuinely surprised about LTs on a Rail Replacement service though!
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Post by snoggle on May 29, 2016 22:02:32 GMT
Arriva operate the majority of the service with Tower Transit running a small amount of buses. Arriva buses used tend to be VLW's, DW's & LT's whilst Tower Transit throw out a few DN's. Arriva must sub-contract a few bus workings to Tower Transit. I guess Arriva use whatever double-deckers are available. I am genuinely surprised about LTs on a Rail Replacement service though! Not that surprising when you consider they are the predominant type at some Arriva garages now and because they run on the busiest routes they have the biggest drop in allocation on Sundays and sometimes Saturdays - the 149 has a large differential between M-F and Sat / Sun PVR (40% fewer buses needed). If Arriva want to run RRS at the weekends then NB4Ls are going to have to appear (subject to them fitting along the RRS route).
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Post by routew15 on May 31, 2016 18:37:57 GMT
Is there a none route for diverted freight trains, that currently the GOB?
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Post by ThinLizzy on May 31, 2016 19:42:58 GMT
Is there a none route for diverted freight trains, that currently the GOB? They'll go via Woodgrange Park, then do a left and enter the North London Line via Stratford.
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Post by snoggle on May 31, 2016 20:30:55 GMT
Is there a none route for diverted freight trains, that currently the GOB? They'll go via Woodgrange Park, then do a left and enter the North London Line via Stratford. I think a few will go up the Lea Valley, hook a left to South Tottenham and then run via the bit of the GOBLIN that's staying open. Probably not many but trains can be held for longer on that route than on the NLL where they've got 378s "up their chuff" all the time. Once we get to September then that option disappears but the GOBLIN itself will have its fair share of works trains going back and forth. It's why work on some bridge replacement happens *after* the line reopens next February!
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Post by sid on Jun 2, 2016 16:58:47 GMT
Arriva operate the majority of the service with Tower Transit running a small amount of buses. Arriva buses used tend to be VLW's, DW's & LT's whilst Tower Transit throw out a few DN's. Arriva must sub-contract a few bus workings to Tower Transit. I guess Arriva use whatever double-deckers are available. I am genuinely surprised about LTs on a Rail Replacement service though! So am I, presumably they had to get TfL's approval to use the LT's on a rail replacement service?
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Post by snoggle on Jun 2, 2016 17:34:25 GMT
Arriva must sub-contract a few bus workings to Tower Transit. I guess Arriva use whatever double-deckers are available. I am genuinely surprised about LTs on a Rail Replacement service though! So am I, presumably they had to get TfL's approval to use the LT's on a rail replacement service? As the buses have "Railway replacement" on their TfL specified blinds I assume it has long been envisaged that they would be used on occasion for those duties. I expect the operators have made it clear that it was in TfL's best interests, given TfL require so many RRSs, to ensure fleet flexibility at weekends was maintained as routes were converted to NB4L operation. It's a "win win" for TfL and the operators.
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Post by Tangy on Jun 8, 2016 20:31:58 GMT
Although Arriva hold the contract for both routes J and T (both of which are scheduled for double deckers), there is one diagram subcontracted to Tower Transit and Ensign also do diagrams on route T using their fleet of ex Arriva VLAs. Arriva themselves have a pool of VLWs (which were previously withdrawn) to run their diagrams.
All the replacement buses should have proper blinds and working I-bus for the routes.
Borismasters have been seen on the T route, due to weekends being Arriva only (thus seeing buses from Arriva depots south of the water as Tottenham is throwing every spare bus they can muster)! Due to the length of the Borismasters, they cannot do the 104 Manor Park loop, thus are currently missing out East Ham and running along the A406. The right turn ban at Manor Park Broadway is hopefully going to lifted for buses only.
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Post by snoggle on Jun 8, 2016 21:29:08 GMT
Although Arriva hold the contract for both routes J and T (both of which are scheduled for double deckers), there is one diagram subcontracted to Tower Transit and Ensign also do diagrams on route T using their fleet of ex Arriva VLAs. Arriva themselves have a pool of VLWs (which were previously withdrawn) to run their diagrams. All the replacement buses should have proper blinds and working I-bus for the routes. Borismasters have been seen on the T route, due to weekends being Arriva only (thus seeing buses from Arriva depots south of the water as Tottenham is throwing every spare bus they can muster)! Due to the length of the Borismasters, they cannot do the 104 Manor Park loop, thus are currently missing out East Ham and running along the A406. The right turn ban at Manor Park Broadway is hopefully going to lifted for buses only. I haven't seen any sign of working I-Bus - there is nothing showing on LVF if you put in LO-T nor any sign that TfL's website recognises the existence of the RRS at obvious stops like Leyton Midland Road. The irony, yet again, is that old Countdown had all the data in it for regular RRSs so "improvement" leads to a worsening of information.
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Post by enviroPB on Jun 13, 2016 22:39:22 GMT
Although Arriva hold the contract for both routes J and T (both of which are scheduled for double deckers), there is one diagram subcontracted to Tower Transit and Ensign also do diagrams on route T using their fleet of ex Arriva VLAs. Arriva themselves have a pool of VLWs (which were previously withdrawn) to run their diagrams. All the replacement buses should have proper blinds and working I-bus for the routes. Borismasters have been seen on the T route, due to weekends being Arriva only (thus seeing buses from Arriva depots south of the water as Tottenham is throwing every spare bus they can muster)! Due to the length of the Borismasters, they cannot do the 104 Manor Park loop, thus are currently missing out East Ham and running along the A406. The right turn ban at Manor Park Broadway is hopefully going to lifted for buses only. In the past couple weeks, junction priorities have indeed changed to have right turn only in both directions of travel. No doubt this is in conjunction with the 9 months of RR work. Do you know if the change to East Ham was to better serve displaced passengers? Because, from a local's point of view; sending route T via East Ham instead of Romford Road & the A406 will if anything, add journey time on the bus. Also to this date, iBus has not worked on the buses I've been on so far.
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Post by jrussa on Aug 5, 2016 14:32:05 GMT
I travelled on the Rail Replacement service from Walthamstow to Barking last night (11:15pm) and it was a pleasant ride on the VLA bus.
"London overground replacement....to...... Barking"
Paraphrased - "Harrow Green, alight here for Leytonstone High Road. Change here for the 257 and 339."
N.B... The noticed the W14 was not mentioned. I assume it is based on the bus stop the replacement service stops at.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 10, 2016 16:03:31 GMT
A "royal" pronouncement by Sir Peter Hendy.
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Post by mondraker275 on Aug 10, 2016 17:25:51 GMT
I travelled on the Rail Replacement service from Walthamstow to Barking last night (11:15pm) and it was a pleasant ride on the VLA bus. "London overground replacement....to...... Barking" Paraphrased - "Harrow Green, alight here for Leytonstone High Road. Change here for the 257 and 339." N.B... The noticed the W14 was not mentioned. I assume it is based on the bus stop the replacement service stops at. Did not notice that, but I guess thats the case. Must congratulate TfL for rearranging the Rail Replacement routes and rerouting them to stop at Harrow Green for example. The orignal routing from South Tottenham to Barking via Leytonstone station was going to collapse. Much more efficient. Although, I dont know whether people are being charged between Walthamstow Central to Tottenham on the tube and before getting back on the other part of the RR.
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Post by snoggle on Nov 9, 2016 23:00:43 GMT
Judging from the never ending series of questions about GOBLIN electrification and the rail replacement buses it seems that TfL and the line user group have fallen out again. TfL are clearly not responding to queries and suggestions based on this question from Jennette Arnold to the Mayor.
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