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Post by richard on Mar 29, 2019 12:42:31 GMT
Due to a problem with the overhead lines at Barking, we're currently suspended between Gospel Oak and Barking.
Oh dear not good for the GOBLIN
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 29, 2019 12:56:26 GMT
Due to a problem with the overhead lines at Barking, we're currently suspended between Gospel Oak and Barking. Oh dear not good for the GOBLIN I was wondering what was going on this morning at Barking. At around 10 the 10:03 departure was sat in Platform 7 and as the 1002 c2c left 2min early I was stuck there 9min for the next one. During this time the 1003 LO closed its doors at 1001 and moved a few meters down the platform before u locking its doors. It finally managed to leave at 1010 very slowly. During this time it blocked P7 and resulted in a c2c train being routed into a different platform.
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Post by richard on Mar 29, 2019 13:48:38 GMT
Due to a problem with the overhead lines at Barking, we're currently suspended between Gospel Oak and Barking. Oh dear not good for the GOBLIN I was wondering what was going on this morning at Barking. At around 10 the 10:03 departure was sat in Platform 7 and as the 1002 c2c left 2min early I was stuck there 9min for the next one. During this time the 1003 LO closed its doors at 1001 and moved a few meters down the platform before u locking its doors. It finally managed to leave at 1010 very slowly. During this time it blocked P7 and resulted in a c2c train being routed into a different platform. I wonder what's happening with the supplementary bus service are they still running every 30mins or enhanced?
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Post by MoEnviro on Mar 29, 2019 14:17:51 GMT
I was wondering what was going on this morning at Barking. At around 10 the 10:03 departure was sat in Platform 7 and as the 1002 c2c left 2min early I was stuck there 9min for the next one. During this time the 1003 LO closed its doors at 1001 and moved a few meters down the platform before u locking its doors. It finally managed to leave at 1010 very slowly. During this time it blocked P7 and resulted in a c2c train being routed into a different platform. I wonder what's happening with the supplementary bus service are they still running every 30mins or enhanced? The line has reopened to freight and there seems to be a unit in the platform at Gospel Oak, but all others have returned to Willesden.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 29, 2019 15:51:55 GMT
I was wondering what was going on this morning at Barking. At around 10 the 10:03 departure was sat in Platform 7 and as the 1002 c2c left 2min early I was stuck there 9min for the next one. During this time the 1003 LO closed its doors at 1001 and moved a few meters down the platform before u locking its doors. It finally managed to leave at 1010 very slowly. During this time it blocked P7 and resulted in a c2c train being routed into a different platform. I wonder what's happening with the supplementary bus service are they still running every 30mins or enhanced? Running as advertised - no enhancements as far as I am aware. There are suggestions that one of the 378s has a damaged pantograph meaning there is only 1 train available at present to run a service every 90 minutes. If the second one comes back from Willesden then the service could increase to the giddy heights of every 45-60 mins.
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Post by redbus on Mar 29, 2019 19:28:33 GMT
I wonder what's happening with the supplementary bus service are they still running every 30mins or enhanced? Running as advertised - no enhancements as far as I am aware. There are suggestions that one of the 378s has a damaged pantograph meaning there is only 1 train available at present to run a service every 90 minutes. If the second one comes back from Willesden then the service could increase to the giddy heights of every 45-60Wmins. Well, something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. Not sure what the cause of the electrical failure was, but I understand one 378 had to tow another back. This left one 378 left and rather than provide a 90 minute service (that being better than nothing), TfL elected to provide nothing, or to put it another way - suspend the service. Once towed back that left two 378s which provided a 1/2 hourly service between Gospel and South Tottenham only. This highlights why TfL will have to persevere with the replacement bus service in my opinion.
Third train now working again and the temporary 1/2 hour service on the whole line has been resumed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 22:40:09 GMT
Due to a problem with the overhead lines at Barking, we're currently suspended between Gospel Oak and Barking. Oh dear not good for the GOBLIN More on what happened
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Post by richard on Mar 29, 2019 22:56:38 GMT
Due to a problem with the overhead lines at Barking, we're currently suspended between Gospel Oak and Barking. Oh dear not good for the GOBLIN More on what happened
I saw that it was bound to happen with only 3 units running i was suprised how quick the 378 came back though
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Post by routew15 on Mar 30, 2019 9:40:29 GMT
Disruption continues into today
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 31, 2019 0:33:29 GMT
I was wondering what was going on this morning at Barking. At around 10 the 10:03 departure was sat in Platform 7 and as the 1002 c2c left 2min early I was stuck there 9min for the next one. During this time the 1003 LO closed its doors at 1001 and moved a few meters down the platform before u locking its doors. It finally managed to leave at 1010 very slowly. During this time it blocked P7 and resulted in a c2c train being routed into a different platform. I wonder what's happening with the supplementary bus service are they still running every 30mins or enhanced? It was still 30 min service. When the train line goes down, the service would be extended from Leytonstone - Barking. The same on the Finsbury Park end to go Seven Sisters.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 1, 2019 12:49:46 GMT
For the first time in a few weeks no class 710s out and about on the GOBLIN this morning. There has been 1 or 2 units shuttling back and forth but not today.
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Post by redbus on Apr 1, 2019 14:32:21 GMT
For the first time in a few weeks no class 710s out and about on the GOBLIN this morning. There has been 1 or 2 units shuttling back and forth but not today. It must be an April fool, they must be being prepared for passenger service later this week!!!!!!!
More likely they have been tested to the limits of the current software and are waiting for the next release of the software.
The way things are going I am unsure I would put money on them entering passenger service this year.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 1, 2019 15:09:05 GMT
For the first time in a few weeks no class 710s out and about on the GOBLIN this morning. There has been 1 or 2 units shuttling back and forth but not today. It must be an April fool, they must be being prepared for passenger service later this week!!!!!!!
More likely they have been tested to the limits of the current software and are waiting for the next release of the software.
The way things are going I am unsure I would put money on them entering passenger service this year.
The bizarre thing is that I saw something on another forum referencing Rail Magazine that said Bombardier had submitted the paperwork to ORR to get the trains approved for service. Now I've seen nothing that corroborates that comment anywhere so who knows! They have kept doing the WCML overnight runs to accumulate mileage and they appear to have been relatively trouble free but you never know what happens when the train is sat in a platform or Wembley sidings between runs and if faults emerge there but are put right so the train can then run on the mainline. TfL are in front of London Travelwatch tomorrow in a meeting about transport issues in Barking. I tweeted LTW last week asking that the GOBLIN situation be discussed. LTW said it would be. The line user group are also in the same meeting so it'll be interesting to see if anything new emerges tomorrow or not. I'm not holding my breath. I do get a mild sense that people are really fed up with the half hourly service. The breakdowns and suspension of service on Friday and Saturday will have done nothing to lighten the mood so I expect TfL will get a really hard time tomorrow. C2C will probably be quietly laughing up their sleeves at TfL's discomfort.
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Post by snowman on Apr 1, 2019 16:30:14 GMT
I have wonder how much will come out at the meeting tomorrow. Can't really say nothing and expect no follow up questions. Trying to hide behind commercial contracts is not going to win friends either (after all passengers should be entitled to basic info like latest timescales as the service is run for them, not for the Operators fun)
As for submitting to ORR, I wonder how much of the train this actually covers, the basic train is a derivative of the class 345 which are already passed, so only likely to be a series of variations.
What is not public is any signalling interface stuff, and that is known to be months late on 345s. Or how any software and testing resources are split between the two types (is development of one type held back to permit more resources on other)
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Post by snoggle on Apr 1, 2019 17:13:19 GMT
I have wonder how much will come out at the meeting tomorrow. Can't really say nothing and expect no follow up questions. Trying to hide behind commercial contracts is not going to win friends either (after all passengers should be entitled to basic info like latest timescales as the service is run for them, not for the Operators fun) As for submitting to ORR, I wonder how much of the train this actually covers, the basic train is a derivative of the class 345 which are already passed, so only likely to be a series of variations. What is not public is any signalling interface stuff, and that is known to be months late on 345s. Or how any software and testing resources are split between the two types (is development of one type held back to permit more resources on other) Well TfL are notorious for leaving things to the last minute with respect to news about the GOBLIN. They are also extremely reluctant to give any form of technical explanation about their contractor's performance. Goodness knows why. Plenty of other transport authorities across the world do it. The fundamental difference between the 345s and the 710s is the software. 345s use a version of the Electrostar software which has many years of in service performance. Even then the 345s have had umpteen problems. IIRC there have been two full fleet withdrawals from service due to severe faults / irregularities. The 710s' software is very different from the 345s and I believe there are other key differences such as how platform dispatch is handled. 345s rely on images transmitted from platform cameras. 710s use vehicle mounted cameras and that's one aspect that I believe has been problematic. You'll never get approval for passenger use until that sort of thing is fixed completely because of the risks to passengers. I understand Bombardier have software resources working on both the 345s and 710s in about 4 or 5 countries across the world. That must be a nightmare to manage but that is *their* choice. If there are further problems with hardware / components on the train and/or how they interract with the software then the complexity in finding solutions multiplies umpteen fold. Signalling should not be an issue with the 710s as they run under conventional signalling for now. There *may* be problems in future when they have to work with tripcock equipped signals and also whatever is done (or not) on the Richmond branch in terms of handling the new SSR signalling system.
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