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Post by snoggle on Oct 8, 2017 19:04:37 GMT
Just a little update. Went along Ferry Lane in Walthamstow today which is beside the GOBLIN. Wires now fully installed on both eastbound and westbound tracks. Obviously I am not an electrification engineer but the contact wire, hangers and upper wire are all in place. Not sure how far east they have got - possibly as far as Queens Road but I'd need to go and check. Pleasing to see after such a long wait.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 8, 2017 20:37:32 GMT
It will be interesting to see the wires back at South Tottenham after months of nothing... I think its not until next year electric trains start on the line? I wonder if they will replace the ancient wiring at Woodgrange Park or just join old to new?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 8, 2017 20:49:08 GMT
It will be interesting to see the wires back at South Tottenham after months of nothing... I think its not until next year electric trains start on the line? I wonder if they will replace the ancient wiring at Woodgrange Park or just join old to new? I'd be pretty surprised if they do, c2c use it every week and it seems to be in good working order. I don't see them spending money on replacing that when it doesn't need it.
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Post by snoggle on Oct 8, 2017 22:33:05 GMT
It will be interesting to see the wires back at South Tottenham after months of nothing... I think its not until next year electric trains start on the line? I wonder if they will replace the ancient wiring at Woodgrange Park or just join old to new? I suspect that South Tottenham has been wired on the GOBLIN track but possibly not joined yet to the West Anglia tracks. I suspect it will all be switched on back to normal in Jan 2018. There's no easy way to check given there are no pedestrian bridges over that track near S Tottenham and there's no access to the platforms currently. Have to wait for another fortnight. It is worth noting that that "ancient wiring" has been receiving a lot of attention all along the Great Eastern line to support Crossrail's intensive service. It's not as ancient as it may look. Can't recall if they've done work down the connecting line or not but I'd not be shocked if they have. Again I doubt anything will be completed connected up at that end until Jan 2018. Don't forget they successfully connected old to new at Barking as platform 1 has been wired and energised for months.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 9, 2017 0:59:36 GMT
It will be interesting to see the wires back at South Tottenham after months of nothing... I think its not until next year electric trains start on the line? I wonder if they will replace the ancient wiring at Woodgrange Park or just join old to new? I suspect that South Tottenham has been wired on the GOBLIN track but possibly not joined yet to the West Anglia tracks. I suspect it will all be switched on back to normal in Jan 2018. There's no easy way to check given there are no pedestrian bridges over that track near S Tottenham and there's no access to the platforms currently. Have to wait for another fortnight. It is worth noting that that "ancient wiring" has been receiving a lot of attention all along the Great Eastern line to support Crossrail's intensive service. It's not as ancient as it may look. Can't recall if they've done work down the connecting line or not but I'd not be shocked if they have. Again I doubt anything will be completed connected up at that end until Jan 2018. Don't forget they successfully connected old to new at Barking as platform 1 has been wired and energised for months. I know about the Furrer + Frey registration arms and tensioning kit added onto the 1950s stanchions on GEML, and they were supposed to be doing some upgrades on the main line which seems to be a little hit and miss where there is old kit at Ilford and Stratford but new stuff at Bethnal Green... so long as it works, I guess everything's fine... I think it adds character. Some of the kit at the Colchester end is really old, there is a scary neutral section by Colchester Town / Colchester North near Hythe where the combination of worn out Class 321 and dodgy wiring combine... the driver was still drawing power which resulted in a loud bang from the pantograph which is worrying when you've got the whole carriage to yourself... Anyway do any electric services use platform 1 at Barking? I assumed it was only the Overground 172's
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 9, 2017 23:22:03 GMT
I suspect that South Tottenham has been wired on the GOBLIN track but possibly not joined yet to the West Anglia tracks. I suspect it will all be switched on back to normal in Jan 2018. There's no easy way to check given there are no pedestrian bridges over that track near S Tottenham and there's no access to the platforms currently. Have to wait for another fortnight. It is worth noting that that "ancient wiring" has been receiving a lot of attention all along the Great Eastern line to support Crossrail's intensive service. It's not as ancient as it may look. Can't recall if they've done work down the connecting line or not but I'd not be shocked if they have. Again I doubt anything will be completed connected up at that end until Jan 2018. Don't forget they successfully connected old to new at Barking as platform 1 has been wired and energised for months. I know about the Furrer + Frey registration arms and tensioning kit added onto the 1950s stanchions on GEML, and they were supposed to be doing some upgrades on the main line which seems to be a little hit and miss where there is old kit at Ilford and Stratford but new stuff at Bethnal Green... so long as it works, I guess everything's fine... I think it adds character. Some of the kit at the Colchester end is really old, there is a scary neutral section by Colchester Town / Colchester North near Hythe where the combination of worn out Class 321 and dodgy wiring combine... the driver was still drawing power which resulted in a loud bang from the pantograph which is worrying when you've got the whole carriage to yourself... Anyway do any electric services use platform 1 at Barking? I assumed it was only the Overground 172's it's only the Cl172s that serve Barking Platform 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 23:19:11 GMT
Nine additional 710s on order, that solo 315 could be permanent unit for Romford-Upminster shuttle. --- Chris Date | CMPDTwitter: twitter.com/cmpd_date
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Post by snoggle on Oct 17, 2017 12:20:33 GMT
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Post by snowman on Oct 19, 2017 19:06:54 GMT
Obviously this closure continues for 2 weeks after London Sovereign gains the 142 and 642 There is a good chance the 4 new E400HMMCs also won't be ready as the were originally for the 258 start in February (it has been brought forward). It is likely that some of the TAs could be brought back into service to cover the overlap period. They might not be needed if LTs are on 267 and SLEs are available (which means delaying replacing Hounslows TAs and TLAs), either way expect some TAs to operate until end of Overground replacement (but mainly on school routes, not the LO-J service) I'm told the bus factories are shut by 20th Dec and don't reopen until at least 3rd Jan. There won't be deliveries whilst the Production lines are shut down, so in practice any bus not delivered and commissioned by 21st Dec is not going to make a 6 Jan contract start date.
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Post by snoggle on Oct 25, 2017 12:30:33 GMT
As I trundled through Leyton / Leytonstone yesterday I got a couple of glimpses of the GOBLIN route. A lot more masts are now evident with the usual mix of cantilevers, paired verticals and the occasional verticals and linking horizontal cross mast. The two former types now have hangers on them for wires but those with the transverse cross mast don't yet. The side wires between masts have got as far as Leyton Midland Road. There's therefore some visible and demonstrable progress on the route.
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 4, 2017 21:24:21 GMT
As I trundled through Leyton / Leytonstone yesterday I got a couple of glimpses of the GOBLIN route. A lot more masts are now evident with the usual mix of cantilevers, paired verticals and the occasional verticals and linking horizontal cross mast. The two former types now have hangers on them for wires but those with the transverse cross mast don't yet. The side wires between masts have got as far as Leyton Midland Road. There's therefore some visible and demonstrable progress on the route. I wonder if the 50's kit at Woodgrange Park will be replaced or just connected to the new stuff?
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Post by snoggle on Nov 5, 2017 0:25:15 GMT
As I trundled through Leyton / Leytonstone yesterday I got a couple of glimpses of the GOBLIN route. A lot more masts are now evident with the usual mix of cantilevers, paired verticals and the occasional verticals and linking horizontal cross mast. The two former types now have hangers on them for wires but those with the transverse cross mast don't yet. The side wires between masts have got as far as Leyton Midland Road. There's therefore some visible and demonstrable progress on the route. I wonder if the 50's kit at Woodgrange Park will be replaced or just connected to the new stuff? Based on what has happened elsewhere it will be connected I'd guess. It's possible that work to improve the GEML wiring might trickle down the connecting line to Barking but I don't know for certain. I have been on the GOBLIN a couple of times over the last week. Essentially the wires are in place from Gospel Oak to Palmerston Road bridge in Walthamstow. There appear to be isolators or similar to Gospel Oak to separate the live NLL wires from the GOBLIN infrastructure. The connection near Crouch Hill to the ECML has masts in place but no wires yet. I suspect this will be done towards the end of the second blockade as part of linking in to other live parts of overheard electrification. Beyond Palmerston Road there are plenty of masts and other fixings (under low bridges) with hangers on many masts. I only travelled to Wanstead Park so can't comment directly about Woodgrange Park but I assume there are masts in place but no other wired connectivity yet. I am surprised that the track condition and track speeds are still poor. There is a temporary restriction stretching all the way from Harringay Green Lanes to almost South Tottenham. I can't understand why that section is now so slow - never used to be this bad. Even where bridges have been replaced near Ferry Lane the trains still slow down which strikes me as nuts given the last bridge works were completed 9 months ago. Why can't the track speed be raised? Anyway only another 2 weeks and it all shuts again. There are a few photos of the wired bits on my Flickr collection.
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 5, 2017 5:51:48 GMT
Thanks for letting me know. As for the line speed reduction, no idea, unless the HOPS train / Road-Rail vehicles have done something to the ballast underneath, or they are worried about the delicate knitting above. I have forgotten when the second blockade begins, but I guess at least they've done more than last year, though at least it was nice to see DW1 racing around Seven Sisters for the last weeks of her work in London
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Post by snoggle on Nov 5, 2017 12:17:29 GMT
Thanks for letting me know. As for the line speed reduction, no idea, unless the HOPS train / Road-Rail vehicles have done something to the ballast underneath, or they are worried about the delicate knitting above. I have forgotten when the second blockade begins, but I guess at least they've done more than last year, though at least it was nice to see DW1 racing around Seven Sisters for the last weeks of her work in London Second blockade is 18 Nov to 14 Jan so effectively 2 months. I'd hazard a guess that they'll aim to get the knitting up quickly at the east end and then tested in terms of clearances / tension etc and then aim to get the juice switched on over Christmas when they have no train movements anywhere for two days so they can get the electrical isolations. Then they'll have to check that the current draw and other things before handing the line back. I expect they'll be hoping a class 710 or two have arrived by then so they can test the trains under full possession for clearances, signal interference etc. Depending on when LO think they can start running longer trains then we might see the longer platforms come fully into use when services restart. Obviously if the Class 710s are late in being delivered then we might get more weekend possessions for testing given we have reduced daylight hours.
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Post by snowman on Nov 5, 2017 13:45:06 GMT
Thanks for letting me know. As for the line speed reduction, no idea, unless the HOPS train / Road-Rail vehicles have done something to the ballast underneath, or they are worried about the delicate knitting above. I have forgotten when the second blockade begins, but I guess at least they've done more than last year, though at least it was nice to see DW1 racing around Seven Sisters for the last weeks of her work in London Second blockade is 18 Nov to 14 Jan so effectively 2 months. I'd hazard a guess that they'll aim to get the knitting up quickly at the east end and then tested in terms of clearances / tension etc and then aim to get the juice switched on over Christmas when they have no train movements anywhere for two days so they can get the electrical isolations. Then they'll have to check that the current draw and other things before handing the line back. I expect they'll be hoping a class 710 or two have arrived by then so they can test the trains under full possession for clearances, signal interference etc. Depending on when LO think they can start running longer trains then we might see the longer platforms come fully into use when services restart. Obviously if the Class 710s are late in being delivered then we might get more weekend possessions for testing given we have reduced daylight hours. I cannot see them being tested on that line, too disruptive and short, and virtually impossible to test at full authorised speed, more likely to do their 250 miles proving on something like Peterborough to Hertford loop. Much more sensible to pick a line with only 1 or 2 trains off peak and where you can run at maximum speed easily.
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