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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 17, 2022 8:43:29 GMT
I thought when I saw this thread again that there had been an update on the bridge.
Last time I was there is saw the middle section hoarded off so something seems to be going on thou I have to admit I have long lost knowing when is going on and what the long term plan for the bridge is now.
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 18, 2022 21:56:46 GMT
Sorry to reopen the thread with no real news but I was reading up the current status of the bridge recently.
By Feb 2023 the strengthening works will be complete which have involved pouring a low carbon, specially worked out consistency to accurately fill up the pedestals. Later they will be reinforced with steel.
After that more exciting hopefully will be plans are well advanced to go ahead with the temporary double deck bridge inserted across the current bridge. Reason I'm saying exciting is that we could just be looking at in 12 to 18 months single deck buses crossing it again if the temporary structure goes ahead.
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Post by abellion on Dec 18, 2022 22:58:52 GMT
Sorry to reopen the thread with no real news but I was reading up the current status of the bridge recently. By Feb 2023 the strengthening works will be complete which have involved pouring a low carbon, specially worked out consistency to accurately fill up the pedestals. Later they will be reinforced with steel. After that more exciting hopefully will be plans are well advanced to go ahead with the temporary double deck bridge inserted across the current bridge. Reason I'm saying exciting is that we could just be looking at in 12 to 18 months single deck buses crossing it again if the temporary structure goes ahead. Seeing the 72 restored to its former glory of rammed buses flying down Roehampton Lane would be so satisfying - these days it’s more like a 220 suffix variant |
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 18, 2022 23:17:40 GMT
Sorry to reopen the thread with no real news but I was reading up the current status of the bridge recently. By Feb 2023 the strengthening works will be complete which have involved pouring a low carbon, specially worked out consistency to accurately fill up the pedestals. Later they will be reinforced with steel. After that more exciting hopefully will be plans are well advanced to go ahead with the temporary double deck bridge inserted across the current bridge. Reason I'm saying exciting is that we could just be looking at in 12 to 18 months single deck buses crossing it again if the temporary structure goes ahead. Seeing the 72 restored to its former glory of rammed buses flying down Roehampton Lane would be so satisfying - these days it’s more like a 220 suffix variant And the 209 back to every 6 mins. Thou who knows if this will even go ahead and even if it does whether TFL would restore all the buses like before. |
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Post by enviroPB on Dec 19, 2022 11:44:09 GMT
Seeing the 72 restored to its former glory of rammed buses flying down Roehampton Lane would be so satisfying - these days it’s more like a 220 suffix variant And the 209 back to every 6 mins. Thou who knows if this will even go ahead and even if it does whether TFL would restore all the buses like before. Do you know if the temporary bridge will be strong enough to take double deckers on it? One of the biggest travesties out of all this was the purchase of VHs for the 72, to find out that Hammersmith Bridge couldn't support deckers and eventually after further inspection, no traffic at all. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 19, 2022 11:58:05 GMT
And the 209 back to every 6 mins. Thou who knows if this will even go ahead and even if it does whether TFL would restore all the buses like before. Do you know if the temporary bridge will be strong enough to take double deckers on it? One of the biggest travesties out of all this was the purchase of VHs for the 72, to find out that Hammersmith Bridge couldn't support deckers and eventually after further inspection, no traffic at all. Might be able to weight wise but I think would be too tall as it would use the top deck which probably wouldn't have the clearance. |
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Post by cc5426 on Dec 21, 2022 1:08:57 GMT
Do you know if the temporary bridge will be strong enough to take double deckers on it? One of the biggest travesties out of all this was the purchase of VHs for the 72, to find out that Hammersmith Bridge couldn't support deckers and eventually after further inspection, no traffic at all. Might be able to weight wise but I think would be too tall as it would use the top deck which probably wouldn't have the clearance. If loadings demand it, might it be worth GAL tendering with MEC’s displaced from the 358, seeing as they already do the 533? |
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Post by COBO on Dec 21, 2022 1:21:26 GMT
Might be able to weight wise but I think would be too tall as it would use the top deck which probably wouldn't have the clearance. If loadings demand it, might it be worth GAL tendering with MEC’s displaced from the 358, seeing as they already do the 533? But the 533 doesn’t go over Hammersmith bridge. |
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Post by COBO on Dec 21, 2022 1:23:54 GMT
And the 209 back to every 6 mins. Thou who knows if this will even go ahead and even if it does whether TFL would restore all the buses like before. Do you know if the temporary bridge will be strong enough to take double deckers on it? One of the biggest travesties out of all this was the purchase of VHs for the 72, to find out that Hammersmith Bridge couldn't support deckers and eventually after further inspection, no traffic at all. Do you know if the temporary bridge will be strong enough to take double deckers on it? One of the biggest travesties out of all this was the purchase of VHs for the 72, to find out that Hammersmith Bridge couldn't support deckers and eventually after further inspection, no traffic at all. Might be able to weight wise but I think would be too tall as it would use the top deck which probably wouldn't have the clearance. I thought that the weight would still be reason why double deckers wouldn’t to be able to across the Hammersmith Bridge and not because of its height. |
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Post by cc5426 on Dec 22, 2022 14:46:38 GMT
If loadings demand it, might it be worth GAL tendering with MEC’s displaced from the 358, seeing as they already do the 533? But the 533 doesn’t go over Hammersmith bridge. Indeed not; but full size vehicles are apparently only height-restricted (not weight-restricted), and I guess the previous southern section of the 72 could be close enough to the 533 in some way? |
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Post by COBO on Dec 22, 2022 14:49:54 GMT
But the 533 doesn’t go over Hammersmith bridge. Indeed not; but full size vehicles are apparently only height-restricted (not weight-restricted), and I guess the previous southern section of the 72 could be close enough to the 533 in some way? No the previous southern section of the 72 is not like the 533. I think that full size single deckers will be too heavy for the bridge. Weight will also be a restriction for the bridge. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Dec 22, 2022 16:52:29 GMT
Indeed not; but full size vehicles are apparently only height-restricted (not weight-restricted), and I guess the previous southern section of the 72 could be close enough to the 533 in some way? No the previous southern section of the 72 is not like the 533. I think that full size single deckers will be too heavy for the bridge. Weight will also be a restriction for the bridge. Assuming there is a weight restriction on the temporary bridge, would this also prevent electric SDs? |
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Post by COBO on Dec 22, 2022 18:26:24 GMT
No the previous southern section of the 72 is not like the 533. I think that full size single deckers will be too heavy for the bridge. Weight will also be a restriction for the bridge. Assuming there is a weight restriction on the temporary bridge, would this also prevent electric SDs? I’ve heard that that it will be able to take the weight of electric single deckers. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 22, 2022 18:53:46 GMT
Assuming there is a weight restriction on the temporary bridge, would this also prevent electric SDs? I’ve heard that that it will be able to take the weight of electric single deckers. I would have thought that TFL would have made that a must. Then again this is TFL which don't always think ahead. |
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Post by snowman on Dec 22, 2022 21:59:24 GMT
Assuming there is a weight restriction on the temporary bridge, would this also prevent electric SDs? I’ve heard that that it will be able to take the weight of electric single deckers. A BYD-ADL E200EV has a weight of 11-12.5t (empty) depending on spec, and I think Gross weight is rated at 18.7t Until few years ago, 2 axle buses were limited to max Gross weight of 18.0t, so buses like E400H and Wrightbus Gemini 3 were designed to the 18t max The weight limit was raised to 19t for electric 2axle buses few years ago, and has since been extended to all 2axle buses. But there remain some restrictions, Richmond bridge used to be 16.5t or 17t, was raised to 18t about 2013 so double deckers became unrestricted, but can’t take fully loaded BCEs as they are to 19t gross weight spec. So in theory a loaded E200EV might be heavier than a hybrid Volvo Wrightbus like RATPs VH class, having been built to the new 19t limit What will be allowed over Hammersmith bridge depends on what the new weight restriction is. Prior to closure was just 7.5t with an exemption for specific lighter single deck diesel buses. |
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