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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 12, 2019 12:44:43 GMT
I would permanently DD one of the routes maybe to run from Mortlake over Chiswick bridge to Hammersmith. Useage of the 209 would plummet if it dosent reach Hammersmith.
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Post by snowman on Feb 12, 2019 13:38:35 GMT
I would permanently DD one of the routes maybe to run from Mortlake over Chiswick bridge to Hammersmith. Useage of the 209 would plummet if it dosent reach Hammersmith. And then could stop running the 190 as it would duplicate it The R68 covers remainder of 190 route Strictly would be gap of 200m across the South Circular, which might be issue. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 12, 2019 14:45:53 GMT
I would permanently DD one of the routes maybe to run from Mortlake over Chiswick bridge to Hammersmith. Useage of the 209 would plummet if it dosent reach Hammersmith. And then could stop running the 190 as it would duplicate it The R68 covers remainder of 190 route Strictly would be gap of 200m across the South Circular, which might be issue. If the worst was to happen and hopefully that doesn’t happen, there would likely be a restructuring of the 190, 290 & merged 419 route. One possible option would be to do the following: Either curtail the 33 to Barnes or divert via Putney Bridge (via Putney High Street rather than the common) Divert the 72 via Putney Common & Putney Bridge Withdraw the 190 Restructure the 209 to start from Mortlake, do a loop of Barnes via Barnes Pond, Castlenau & Lonsdale Road, run back through Mortlake, drop down through Sheen and then follow the 33, 337 & 493 to Richmond and then follow the current 190 to Hammersmith Extend the 391 from Hammersmith to West Brompton once cut back via the current 190 Withdraw the merged 419 east of Richmond Divert the 485 via the current 419 route and then the current 190 route to Hammersmith (the 485 is low frequency so any overbussing wouldn’t happen) Not ideal particularly the 209’s new routing but it at least keeps as many areas as possible to be served with the current links provided. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 12, 2019 15:51:08 GMT
Or the 209 could start in Barnes then via Mortlake then over Chiswick bridge via the 190 to Hammersmith.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 10:58:49 GMT
I hope the bridge gets repaired. Elderly and less able bodied folk need to get across the bridge by bus. The North side is still an awkward walk to the town centre. Navigating that awful roundabout.
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Post by DE20106 on Feb 20, 2019 22:45:05 GMT
After just seeing a post by richard from a little while ago and then a subsequent look of the TfL Bus Alerts Twitter Page twitter routes 33, 72, 209, 419 and 485 were/are subject to severe delays ‘due to the weight restrictions being implemented’ at Hammersmith Bridge. To me this throws up quite a few questions. 1) What does that mean exactly, are buses “slightly” exempt from the 7.5T weight restrictions (ie some of the ex-LS DEs weighing 7.7T)? So buses slightly over that limit are under normal circumstances allowed on the bridge, but for whatever reason buses had to strictly obey it meaning buses like the ex-LS DEs were banned suddenly and had to curtail? 2) Does that mean a draconian one-bus-at-a-time policy was strictly enforced, which caused these delays? 3) What could have caused this? Could the bridge have suffered sudden structural weakness? Surely this is now a wake up call to get that bridge mended ASAP!!! |
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Post by george on Feb 20, 2019 23:04:30 GMT
After just seeing a post by richard from a little while ago and then a subsequent look of the TfL Bus Alerts Twitter Page twitter routes 33, 72, 209, 419 and 485 were/are subject to severe delays ‘due to the weight restrictions being implemented’ at Hammersmith Bridge. To me this throws up quite a few questions. 1) What does that mean exactly, are buses “slightly” exempt from the 7.5T weight restrictions (ie some of the ex-LS DEs weighing 7.7T)? So buses slightly over that limit are under normal circumstances allowed on the bridge, but for whatever reason buses had to strictly obey it meaning buses like the ex-LS DEs were banned suddenly and had to curtail? 2) Does that mean a draconian one-bus-at-a-time policy was strictly enforced, which caused these delays? 3) What could have caused this? Could the bridge have suffered sudden structural weakness? Surely this is now a wake up call to get that bridge mended ASAP!!! The bridge has been one bus at a time in each direction for quite a long time now. There a people in yellow Hi-VI jackets on both sides of the bridge telling drivers to stop and when to go. Before this there used to be a barrier which drivers would open with a pass. Going over the bridge tonight i noticed the barrier had been reinstalled with a man in a yellow jacket opening it when a bus was coming through, i think this could be one of the reasons because of the delays. The soon the bridge is fixed the better |
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Post by LT 20181 on Feb 20, 2019 23:16:43 GMT
After just seeing a post by richard from a little while ago and then a subsequent look of the TfL Bus Alerts Twitter Page twitter routes 33, 72, 209, 419 and 485 were/are subject to severe delays ‘due to the weight restrictions being implemented’ at Hammersmith Bridge. To me this throws up quite a few questions. 1) What does that mean exactly, are buses “slightly” exempt from the 7.5T weight restrictions (ie some of the ex-LS DEs weighing 7.7T)? So buses slightly over that limit are under normal circumstances allowed on the bridge, but for whatever reason buses had to strictly obey it meaning buses like the ex-LS DEs were banned suddenly and had to curtail? 2) Does that mean a draconian one-bus-at-a-time policy was strictly enforced, which caused these delays? 3) What could have caused this? Could the bridge have suffered sudden structural weakness? Surely this is now a wake up call to get that bridge mended ASAP!!! From my knowledge and studying, the bridge is weak because of its age and era in which it was built in and because it fell victim to a series of IRA bombings.  And also from what I’ve seen, the date for the Hammersmith Bridge’s refurbishment/restrengthening (call it what you like lol) keeps getting pushed back to a later date, so again.. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 21, 2019 0:35:26 GMT
After just seeing a post by richard from a little while ago and then a subsequent look of the TfL Bus Alerts Twitter Page twitter routes 33, 72, 209, 419 and 485 were/are subject to severe delays ‘due to the weight restrictions being implemented’ at Hammersmith Bridge. To me this throws up quite a few questions. 1) What does that mean exactly, are buses “slightly” exempt from the 7.5T weight restrictions (ie some of the ex-LS DEs weighing 7.7T)? So buses slightly over that limit are under normal circumstances allowed on the bridge, but for whatever reason buses had to strictly obey it meaning buses like the ex-LS DEs were banned suddenly and had to curtail? 2) Does that mean a draconian one-bus-at-a-time policy was strictly enforced, which caused these delays? 3) What could have caused this? Could the bridge have suffered sudden structural weakness? Surely this is now a wake up call to get that bridge mended ASAP!!! From my knowledge and studying, the bridge is weak because of its age and era in which it was built in and because it fell victim to a series of IRA bombings. Age doesn't come into it because Tower Bridge is old but yet is structurally sound just like most other bridges over the Thames - the bridge was just never designed to support the volume and weight of modern vehicles plus the two succesful IRA bombings (the other IRA bombing failed). As far as I know, Albert Bridge is the only bridge still standing in London that was poorly built. |
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Post by george on Feb 21, 2019 0:55:36 GMT
From my knowledge and studying, the bridge is weak because of its age and era in which it was built in and because it fell victim to a series of IRA bombings. Age doesn't come into it because Tower Bridge is old but yet is structurally sound just like most other bridges over the Thames - the bridge was just never designed to support the volume and weight of modern vehicles plus the two succesful IRA bombings (the other IRA bombing failed). As far as I know, Albert Bridge is the only bridge still standing in London that was poorly built. Millennium bridge is still standing but road bridges yep think your correct. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 7:23:56 GMT
Alternative solution.
Close Bridge to all vehicles except below and emergency vehicle access.
Autonomous ( on demand) vehicles doing a circuit of Hammersmith from the south side across the bridge via dedicated lanes feeding into the lay-by outside Hammersmith & City Line / Circle station.
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Post by snowman on Mar 21, 2019 10:10:42 GMT
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Post by John tuthill on Mar 21, 2019 11:17:39 GMT
It's been so long in being repaired/rebuilt it will probably be one of these per week!!  Attachment Deleted(LT collection) |
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Post by richard on Apr 10, 2019 17:30:39 GMT
Not again 😠
HAMMERSMITH BRIDGE: Routes 33 72 209 419 485 and 609 are curtailed or diverted due to the closure of Hammersmith Bridge by Hammersmith & Fulham Council.
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Post by COBO on Apr 10, 2019 17:35:20 GMT
Not again 😠 HAMMERSMITH BRIDGE: Routes 33 72 209 419 485 and 609 are curtailed or diverted due to the closure of Hammersmith Bridge by Hammersmith & Fulham Council. How long for this time? |
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