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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:27:16 GMT
Negative Tory campaign lost mayoral race - ScullyA former Conservative minister has said his party has "got to do better" in London after their defeat in the mayoral contest.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72p7dj1890o
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:24:47 GMT
Free nursery??? Where in London is that, because unless it is school, I do not know any nurseries that are free and not charging. All my nursery was free in 1990 before I started reception in 1992. Over 30 years ago!!!! Universities were free etc. the list is endless
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:22:06 GMT
Khan has put in his manifesto to make all buses all zero emission by 2030. That would require funding from central govt? The govt may refuse. Yes, but with so many new Labour areas also wanting money it will be spread pretty thin. The rise of Labour at a time when budgets are being squeezed and GDP is falling will not give Labour an easy ride. Historically Labour governments tend to be a bit more progressive on public spending but the biggest question would be where to spend what little there may be to go around. With large scale projects promised by northern mayors and down south a promise of the Olympics and bus ownership what project does Starmer cut first or do we pay for it in tax increases which would go down like a lead balloon? They can get cast off buses from London, there would be a lot of hybrid buses available, lol
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:20:13 GMT
The "buses into public ownership" element is pledged to be done in conjunction with a future labour prime minister, so may not happen at all under Khan's mayoralty. The odds look quite good on there being a future Labour prime minister! NEVER, the rest of the country are not that stupid as in London; they would not put Khan as PM
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:15:57 GMT
A self-confessed gullible! Evidence for my theory. Please stop with these odd outbursts - ibus246 is entitled to vote for who he wants even if I donāt agree with that candidate, really no need to sound like your having a temper tantrum over it, surely none of are toddlers on here now? What you should really be doing is directing your anger towards Hall & the Tory party for either putting up a terrible candidate or for running a terrible campaign and the fact most of the people on here who donāt like Khan arenāt actually doing that baffles me. ibus246 has had a few outbursts just as bad, seems some are wearing rose tinted glasses
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:14:13 GMT
This thread has been fascinating to follow in the last 24 hours.... It's no secret, I am a long-standing Labour member and I have been knocking on doors for Sadiq and other candidates every day for weeks - all in outer London. ULEZ has a bark worse than the bite - it's gone down the list of people's concerns in my experience. It's an imperfect policy, but there will never be a perfect solution to such a complex issue. Free school meals, building more council houses and freezing TfL PAYG fares were hugely popular policies. And unlike the Tory candidate, people knew what they were getting with a vote for Sadiq and knew that he'd stand up to Rishi Sunak - like he did with Zip cards amongst other things. Sadiq won for a good reason - and increased his vote by taking votes from the Tories and the Greens for good reason - he offered policies and a record that got people out their house to go and vote. And people also like his story which resonates with a lot of Londoners - and comes in stark contrast to the likes of Johnson and Sunak - he grew up on a council estate, the son of a seamstress and a bus driver, worked hard, became a successful lawyer, an MP, a cabinet minister (the first British Muslim to do so) and then has led this city, the first Muslim Mayor in Europe. And he's come in for some terrible abuse from both Islamic extremists and the far-right, both of which he has taken on skillfully by not only supporting the Islamic community but also voting for gay marriage as an MP and supporting events like Pride - which is what a Mayor of an open and inclusive city should do. *awaits lynching in 3, 2, 1....* Did you take a team of bodyguards with you when you were knocking on doors for Sadiq? š¤£ š¤£ š¤£ š¤£ But seriously it's been suggested that he did very little in the way of campaigning himself because he knows what a hostile reception he'll get in many areas. The anti ULEZ expansion campaign seems to be continuing unabated and it seems many of those involved would normally be labour voters. He used his lackey's to do his campaigning.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:12:46 GMT
This thread has been fascinating to follow in the last 24 hours.... It's no secret, I am a long-standing Labour member and I have been knocking on doors for Sadiq and other candidates every day for weeks - all in outer London. ULEZ has a bark worse than the bite - it's gone down the list of people's concerns in my experience. It's an imperfect policy, but there will never be a perfect solution to such a complex issue. Free school meals, building more council houses and freezing TfL PAYG fares were hugely popular policies. And unlike the Tory candidate, people knew what they were getting with a vote for Sadiq and knew that he'd stand up to Rishi Sunak - like he did with Zip cards amongst other things. Sadiq won for a good reason - and increased his vote by taking votes from the Tories and the Greens for good reason - he offered policies and a record that got people out their house to go and vote. And people also like his story which resonates with a lot of Londoners - and comes in stark contrast to the likes of Johnson and Sunak - he grew up on a council estate, the son of a seamstress and a bus driver, worked hard, became a successful lawyer, an MP, a cabinet minister (the first British Muslim to do so) and then has led this city, the first Muslim Mayor in Europe. And he's come in for some terrible abuse from both Islamic extremists and the far-right, both of which he has taken on skillfully by not only supporting the Islamic community but also voting for gay marriage as an MP and supporting events like Pride - which is what a Mayor of an open and inclusive city should do. *awaits lynching in 3, 2, 1....* Son of a shop keeper with a business. He did NOT even do 5 years on the buses! One of his main reasons for winning is down to the main government itself and a poor Conservative candidate
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:04:23 GMT
Exactly - so they shouldnāt keep using those as excuses for their poor management then should they. They done more than eff up - they should be out of power for a very long long time. Labour will inherit a total and chaotic mess - left by the filthy tories. Much like how the Tories inherited a note that said āno money leftā back in 2010. Neither the Tories nor Labour deserve a chance to be anywhere near government but sadly our FPTP system means weāre stuck in a endless tennis match between two parties that are out of steam and are at this point only elected because the other one has been in power for too long. One of the reasons why I say it is time to give Lib Dems a chance
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:03:32 GMT
The whole world went through Covid, but the UK had one of the worst excess death rates because of the Government's poor handling of the situation. Economically we also have one of the weakest recoveries - again because of the Government's poor handling of the economy. You can see the effects of Tory policy every time you see someone sleeping in a shop doorway or underpass. Street homelessness was something that had been almost totally eradicated last time we had a Labour Government. It will not be sunshine and roses under Starmer's Labour. The country is in a huge mess due to Conservative mismanagement and will take a long time to get back on its feet. It does look like people are willing to give Labour that chance now. The excess deaths comment is a bit subjective. There was no agreed way of recording data. So some countries only recorded and released figures purely of Covid deaths i.e no other underlying conditions etc. Whereas here doctors were recording it within the other causes. There are numerous stories of family members in the UK having to argue doctors into removing it as a suspected cause. So on paper the UK may have had a high excess death rate but the reality is we really wonāt ever know the true figures as many of those that died would have been waiting for treatment or had their doctor visits delayed by covid. There was a lot of doctors doing this and I have no idea why. Some even went back and challenged it and got them to change the death certificate. Seems like fraud
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 21:00:40 GMT
Whatās Russia and Ukraine got to do with the Tories? Britain has been a staunch ally of Ukraine, Covid? The whole world went through that. I remember the Blair years in the 00s well, people would always refer back to the Thatcher years of the 80s as a whataboutism. The Tories effed up, but letās not pretend things will be sunshine and roses under Starmer The whole world went through Covid, but the UK had one of the worst excess death rates because of the Government's poor handling of the situation. Economically we also have one of the weakest recoveries - again because of the Government's poor handling of the economy. You can see the effects of Tory policy every time you see someone sleeping in a shop doorway or underpass. Street homelessness was something that had been almost totally eradicated last time we had a Labour Government. It will not be sunshine and roses under Starmer's Labour. The country is in a huge mess due to Conservative mismanagement and will take a long time to get back on its feet. It does look like people are willing to give Labour that chance now. That is absolute nonsense and you know it. Homelessness in London was still rife in London even the last few years of Labour. It was increasing at the time due to Labour's credit card situation causing people to borrow more than they should. Maybe there was not much methods of recording it, but I remember loads of places where people were sleeping rough. Some you can never stop from doing it.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 5, 2024 20:57:17 GMT
Bit hard to āget over itā when the worst mayor this city has ever had gets a third term to mess it up even more. In your opinion the worst yes, but not the opinion of London? Iāve heard my local nursery has places free. Free nursery??? Where in London is that, because unless it is school, I do not know any nurseries that are free and not charging.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 4, 2024 23:24:28 GMT
Sadiq Khan heckled by Britain First candidate just moments into victory speechSadiq Khan only managed to say āThank you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you Londonā before an outbreak of boos from the crowdwww.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-mayoral-election-results-sadiq-khan-susan-hall-britain-first-b1155739.htmlLondon Assembly results are finalisedOverall, Labour won 38.4% of the vote, with the Conservatives on 26.2%. The result means the political make-up of the assembly is: Labour 11 Conservatives 8 Greens 3 Lib Dems 2, and Reform UK 1 There is one member for each of the 14 constituencies and 11 additional members, based on a proportion of the overall result.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 4, 2024 23:18:17 GMT
They are all London, just because they didn't get the result they wanted doesn't mean that they should break away. It's just effectively throwing your toys out of the pram. Also on pay per mile, who has actually said that Sadiq will introduce it? Sadiq explicitly stated he won't introduce it I saw a flying pig and a blue moon
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 4, 2024 23:15:29 GMT
Think it is about time Outer London boroughs seek devolution from Inner London. Inner London can have pay per mile, Outer London does not want it. Count Binface would have been more preferable than Count Khanage! They are all London, just because they didn't get the result they wanted doesn't mean that they should break away. It's just effectively throwing your toys out of the pram. Also on pay per mile, who has actually said that Sadiq will introduce it? Who said he would not introduce London wide ULEZ when he said he would only go to North & South circular roads, oh hang on
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 4, 2024 23:10:25 GMT
I think Susan Hall could have won if the turnout was around 80-90%, its obvious who the 40% that did turnout to vote were, they are the diehard Khan fans, no matter how bad he runs the capital, they will still vote for him. Susan Hall could only have a hope of winning if Labour didnāt field a candidate full stop - no amount of turnout was getting her in given her whole campaign was just Outer London based - she didnāt even bother to try and make inroads in Inner London where there are plenty of people tired of him. Thank goodness she flopped as expected anyway, Iām not in the business of having far right candidates running London and it was excellent to see Count Binface beat the racists are Britain First You have a valid point. When Boris was campaigning he went in most of the key Labour inner London area's even at times if he was heckled. Hall was no where to be seen.
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