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Post by Londonbuses54 on Nov 22, 2018 21:16:19 GMT
Wonder if there is any chance of them placing any new orders?
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Post by busaholic on Nov 22, 2018 21:47:42 GMT
On another forum it was mentioned that a faulty air-conditioning unit atop one of the buses may have started the fire? Any credence to this?
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Post by twobellstogo on Nov 22, 2018 21:52:27 GMT
Is it me or is this a really insensitive thing to say considering such a tragic happening? A garage has suffered a terrible tragedy, had millions of pounds worth of damage and lives could have been lost. I think the last consideration right now is caring what bus type is used..... Couldn't have agree more, and to be honest the only thing I'm worried about now is will MB have enough DD's for the 51 in two weeks time without any shortages of DD's at MB or having to put an SD on the 51, 320 & 353, though no doubt everything will probably be sorted by then. The only officially 51 buses involved were the EN and the WVL, and Go Ahead I’m sure have spare d/d knocking around to replace the damaged/destroyed buses.
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Post by ibus246 on Nov 22, 2018 22:00:23 GMT
On another forum it was mentioned that a faulty air-conditioning unit atop one of the buses may have started the fire? Any credence to this? This is what I read reported in various articles
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 22, 2018 22:32:34 GMT
On another forum it was mentioned that a faulty air-conditioning unit atop one of the buses may have started the fire? Any credence to this? Why would the air-conditioning units be on so early in the morning on buses at the back of the garage? .... assumed as they all come off route quite early in the evening.
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 22, 2018 22:34:24 GMT
561, 563 & 565 and some WVLs will apparently be in service tomorrow. So something good comes from today’s event. These are preferred to the Citaros, not least by those with puchchairs! I can’t see what is good about it. A businesses assets went up in flames.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Nov 22, 2018 22:40:39 GMT
Terrible news to happen. MB as a whole should be proud for how they coped with this event today.
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Post by twobellstogo on Nov 22, 2018 22:52:33 GMT
Looking at photos I've seen, the MECs seem completely destroyed, and EN33 is practically destroyed. E224 looks severely damaged but possibly repairable, but it looks like an expensive repair which I don't think GAL will be willing to carry out on a bus of its age, E60 similarly could be repaired but because of its age I doubt it will and again similarly with SEN21. The other E400s visible in pictures I have seen look virtually destroyed too. There is still a few ex TT E400s at Ensign which could be bought to fill in the numbers, shame that this has occurred though, although I can imagine a large company like GAL can handle it. Further to this : I think it’s EH18? - its damage looks possibly repairable. Although old, I think E60 possibly looks salvageable. SEN21 too. The rest, no.
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Post by YY13VKP on Nov 22, 2018 23:19:54 GMT
LVF now appears to have 11 of the 12 vehicles affected after all the rumour and speculation. Which in a situation like this is quite understandable. The 12 buses destroyed or damaged are: Enviro 400s E60, 94, 136, 224. Enviro 40H hybrid EH18 Volvo/Wright WVL413 Scania OmniCity 563 Mercedes Citaros MEC54, 56, 60 Enviro 200 SEN21 Also Enviro 400 EN33, which was yet to enter service and not on LVF. 563 apparently also safe - means we are down to the 11 most media outlets stated were affected. 563 reported to be at NX on rota
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Post by LX09FBJ on Nov 23, 2018 0:28:39 GMT
Couldn't have agree more, and to be honest the only thing I'm worried about now is will MB have enough DD's for the 51 in two weeks time without any shortages of DD's at MB or having to put an SD on the 51, 320 & 353, though no doubt everything will probably be sorted by then. The only officially 51 buses involved were the EN and the WVL, and Go Ahead I’m sure have spare d/d knocking around to replace the damaged/destroyed buses. Go-Ahead should be able to reshuffle the fleet to allow the 51 to run smoothly when MB take it over. If they are really short then they could borrow a few OmniCitys from Stagecoach for a couple weeks until everything is fully sorted out.
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Post by YY13VKP on Nov 23, 2018 7:11:22 GMT
WVL413 reported safe, but E211 has been affected
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Post by rj131 on Nov 23, 2018 7:49:05 GMT
The only officially 51 buses involved were the EN and the WVL, and Go Ahead I’m sure have spare d/d knocking around to replace the damaged/destroyed buses. Go-Ahead should be able to reshuffle the fleet to allow the 51 to run smoothly when MB take it over. If they are really short then they could borrow a few OmniCitys from Stagecoach for a couple weeks until everything is fully sorted out. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but hopefully the 51 won’t need any extras at all? The buses refurbished for it are EN28-40 {13} and WVL413-21 {9}. That’s a total of 22 vehicles, minus EN33 which was destroyed, and now we know the rest and WVL413 are safe that brings it down to 21 vehicles. That should surely be fine for a PVR-19 route?
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Post by sid on Nov 23, 2018 7:56:35 GMT
On another forum it was mentioned that a faulty air-conditioning unit atop one of the buses may have started the fire? Any credence to this? I've read that too on social media although it's not been confirmed as far as I'm aware.
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Post by sid on Nov 23, 2018 8:00:20 GMT
Is it me or is this a really insensitive thing to say considering such a tragic happening? A garage has suffered a terrible tragedy, had millions of pounds worth of damage and lives could have been lost. I think the last consideration right now is caring what bus type is used..... I’ve noticed that there’s always at least one insensitive comment made whenever there is a tragedy on here... I don't think this can be called a tragedy, fortunately there has been no injuries or loss of life and I can't see any harm in a light hearted comment. Perhaps Go Ahead will be able to hire Scanias from Stagecoach for the 51 as I assume they'll have no further use for them?
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Post by YY13VKP on Nov 23, 2018 8:21:31 GMT
It's now been confirmed on the LVF Facebook group which buses were involved. They are: E60 E94 E211 E224 EH18 EN33 EN37 EN40 (apparently suffered a little damaged and can be repaired, probably heat damage) MEC54 MEC56 MEC60 SEN21
E136, originally thought to be destroyed has actually transferred to RR for the 104
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