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Post by Dstock7080 on May 29, 2023 3:54:30 GMT
Trains, with 5 still tied up in the CLIP and not released for service yet, although the first one has returned to Ruislip. The next CLIP train will head to Acton when the first enters service.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 29, 2023 16:48:45 GMT
I wonder if they will have another go at making the Hainault shuttle a 4 car train in order to free up a train for a refurbishment float/train shortage.
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 29, 2023 17:55:12 GMT
They had problems before testing the 4-car which is why it was progressed
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Post by southlondonbus on May 29, 2023 19:08:35 GMT
They had problems before testing the 4-car which is why it was progressed I don't know why they don't go back to the through service as the whole purpose was to only require one 8 car train.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 29, 2023 21:07:58 GMT
They had problems before testing the 4-car which is why it was progressed A bit of a surprise, was they not going to be 4 car when on the Ongar - Epping if they had not closed the line. Also is the Waterloo & City line not 4 car of the same thing.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 29, 2023 21:58:18 GMT
They had problems before testing the 4-car which is why it was progressed A bit of a surprise, was they not going to be 4 car when on the Ongar - Epping if they had not closed the line. Also is the Waterloo & City line not 4 car of the same thing. I think there are 2 trains that can be reconfigured into 4 car units that when they have 8 car trains they effectively have 3 driver compartments. This may have been ordered back in 1992 incase 4 car trains were needed again to Ongar or the Hainault line.
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 30, 2023 4:12:48 GMT
All 1992 Stock can operate as 4-car. The specific problem at Hainault was gapping entering and leaving the depot. 4-car ‘92s do work happily on the W&City without the issue at Hainault. Returning to a through service will require more trains to retain frequency
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Post by southlondonbus on May 30, 2023 5:40:25 GMT
All 1992 Stock can operate as 4-car. The specific problem at Hainault was gapping entering and leaving the depot. 4-car ‘92s do work happily on the W&City without the issue at Hainault. Returning to a through service will require more trains to retain frequency But surely it would be 3 tpb that currently terminate at Hainault to be extended to Woodford as opposed to 3 extra trains on the central section. Doesn't operating as a shuttle end up with more stand time at Hainault as you have got a Ealing Broadway train waiting to return and a train to Woodford waiting aswell.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 30, 2023 22:11:55 GMT
A bit of a surprise, was they not going to be 4 car when on the Ongar - Epping if they had not closed the line. Also is the Waterloo & City line not 4 car of the same thing. I think there are 2 trains that can be reconfigured into 4 car units that when they have 8 car trains they effectively have 3 driver compartments. This may have been ordered back in 1992 incase 4 car trains were needed again to Ongar or the Hainault line. I remember seeing the train with 3 driver end units and thought it looked weird and was a temporary measure. I am more used to the arrangement of the 315's on TfL rail 8 car train made up of two 4 cars. similar to the 62 stock with a middle middle drivers end in dead centre.
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 9, 2023 8:54:47 GMT
A reduced Monday-Friday service has been operating on the Central Line since Monday 5th June, this is to free up trains for repair and refurbishment. This follows a similar reduction to the Jubilee Line service a few weeks ago.
Six trains at peak times and up to five trains between the peaks have been cancelled from the working timetable, which will mean some gaps in service that are longer than usual. Some other trains have been retimed to reduce the worst gaps. The peak requirement is reduced from 77 to 71 and the between-peak requirement is reduced from 66 to 61.
Trains 50, 101 and 112 are withdrawn completely. Trains 54, 122 and 142 only operate in the morning and trains 115, 123 and 144 only operate in the afternoon/evening.
The cancellations will continue until more serviceable trains are available, or a new working timetable is created.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 9, 2023 9:53:30 GMT
A reduced Monday-Friday service has been operating on the Central Line since Monday 5th June, this is to free up trains for repair and refurbishment. This follows a similar reduction to the Jubilee Line service a few weeks ago. Six trains at peak times and up to five trains between the peaks have been cancelled from the working timetable, which will mean some gaps in service that are longer than usual. Some other trains have been retimed to reduce the worst gaps. The peak requirement is reduced from 77 to 71 and the between-peak requirement is reduced from 66 to 61. Trains 50, 101 and 112 are withdrawn completely. Trains 54, 122 and 142 only operate in the morning and trains 115, 123 and 144 only operate in the afternoon/evening. The cancellations will continue until more serviceable trains are available, or a new working timetable is created. Why is the Jubilee line being reduced for?
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 9, 2023 10:07:04 GMT
A reduced Monday-Friday service has been operating on the Central Line since Monday 5th June, this is to free up trains for repair and refurbishment. This follows a similar reduction to the Jubilee Line service a few weeks ago. Six trains at peak times and up to five trains between the peaks have been cancelled from the working timetable, which will mean some gaps in service that are longer than usual. Some other trains have been retimed to reduce the worst gaps. The peak requirement is reduced from 77 to 71 and the between-peak requirement is reduced from 66 to 61. Trains 50, 101 and 112 are withdrawn completely. Trains 54, 122 and 142 only operate in the morning and trains 115, 123 and 144 only operate in the afternoon/evening. The cancellations will continue until more serviceable trains are available, or a new working timetable is created. Why is the Jubilee line being reduced for? Similar issue - a shortage of serviceable trains. tangytango.proboards.com/post/750706/thread
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 9, 2023 10:08:30 GMT
A reduced Monday-Friday service has been operating on the Central Line since Monday 5th June, this is to free up trains for repair and refurbishment. This follows a similar reduction to the Jubilee Line service a few weeks ago. Six trains at peak times and up to five trains between the peaks have been cancelled from the working timetable, which will mean some gaps in service that are longer than usual. Some other trains have been retimed to reduce the worst gaps. The peak requirement is reduced from 77 to 71 and the between-peak requirement is reduced from 66 to 61. Trains 50, 101 and 112 are withdrawn completely. Trains 54, 122 and 142 only operate in the morning and trains 115, 123 and 144 only operate in the afternoon/evening. The cancellations will continue until more serviceable trains are available, or a new working timetable is created. Hopefully the reduced timetable can prioritise shorter workings to White City, Leytonstone etc to keep the maxmimum capacity possible through Central London. It's a shame the Jubilee Line doesn't have more turnback facilities. It really does need the maximum frequency possible through the core, but stations at the Stanmore end don't really justify a train every few minutes. Ideally if alternate trains could just run West Hampstead to North Greenwich, that would give a better balance of capacity if fewer trains are available.
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 9, 2023 10:12:05 GMT
A reduced Monday-Friday service has been operating on the Central Line since Monday 5th June, this is to free up trains for repair and refurbishment. This follows a similar reduction to the Jubilee Line service a few weeks ago. Six trains at peak times and up to five trains between the peaks have been cancelled from the working timetable, which will mean some gaps in service that are longer than usual. Some other trains have been retimed to reduce the worst gaps. The peak requirement is reduced from 77 to 71 and the between-peak requirement is reduced from 66 to 61. Trains 50, 101 and 112 are withdrawn completely. Trains 54, 122 and 142 only operate in the morning and trains 115, 123 and 144 only operate in the afternoon/evening. The cancellations will continue until more serviceable trains are available, or a new working timetable is created. Hopefully the reduced timetable can prioritise shorter workings to White City, Leytonstone etc to keep the maxmimum capacity possible through Central London. It's a shame the Jubilee Line doesn't have more turnback facilities. It really does need the maximum frequency possible through the core, but stations at the Stanmore end don't really justify a train every few minutes. Ideally if alternate trains could just run West Hampstead to North Greenwich, that would give a better balance of capacity if fewer trains are available. The working timetable may be redrawn in time to prioritise more short workings. However it takes time to draw up a new working timetable, and the immediate solution has been simply to cancel a few train diagrams.
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Post by greenboy on Jun 9, 2023 11:34:31 GMT
A reduced Monday-Friday service has been operating on the Central Line since Monday 5th June, this is to free up trains for repair and refurbishment. This follows a similar reduction to the Jubilee Line service a few weeks ago. Six trains at peak times and up to five trains between the peaks have been cancelled from the working timetable, which will mean some gaps in service that are longer than usual. Some other trains have been retimed to reduce the worst gaps. The peak requirement is reduced from 77 to 71 and the between-peak requirement is reduced from 66 to 61. Trains 50, 101 and 112 are withdrawn completely. Trains 54, 122 and 142 only operate in the morning and trains 115, 123 and 144 only operate in the afternoon/evening. The cancellations will continue until more serviceable trains are available, or a new working timetable is created. Hopefully the reduced timetable can prioritise shorter workings to White City, Leytonstone etc to keep the maxmimum capacity possible through Central London. It's a shame the Jubilee Line doesn't have more turnback facilities. It really does need the maximum frequency possible through the core, but stations at the Stanmore end don't really justify a train every few minutes. Ideally if alternate trains could just run West Hampstead to North Greenwich, that would give a better balance of capacity if fewer trains are available. If I remember correctly some years ago alternate trains terminated at Wembley Park rather than the full service going to Stanmore where it's not needed.
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