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Post by JUNIOR26 on Nov 8, 2023 9:47:03 GMT
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Post by COBO on Nov 8, 2023 9:51:11 GMT
I had a feeling that they would eventually merge the U1 and U3 together. It kind of make sense for this to happen. I wonder if this will lead to the eventual discontinuation of the 696.
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Post by mb171 on Nov 8, 2023 9:52:17 GMT
Interesting. So the U1 is withdrawn altogether, U2 rerouted around Oak Farm and extended to West Drayton and U3 replaces the U1 between Uxbridge and Ruislip. E7 gets extended too.
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Post by TB123 on Nov 8, 2023 10:03:18 GMT
Surprised it has taken so long for this to come to consultation, this network study was done in 2019!
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Nov 8, 2023 10:09:29 GMT
Surprised it has taken so long for this to come to consultation, this network study was done in 2019! I would expect the U1, U2, U3 and U4 contracts to be extended by one year and be re-tendered all together again. The report is to be published in mid-2024, so this gives an indication that the U routes have had their contracts extended with TFL and Metroline reaching an agreement, but hasn't been made public yet.
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Post by TB123 on Nov 8, 2023 10:10:14 GMT
Surprised it has taken so long for this to come to consultation, this network study was done in 2019! I would expect the U1, U2, U3 and U4 contracts to be extended by one year and be re-tendered all together again. The report is to be published in mid-2024, so this gives an indication that the U routes have had their contracts extended with TFL and Metroline reaching an agreement, but hasn't been made public yet. The easy read sheet says the changes could take place 27th April 2024, I believe the retender date is then....
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Post by COBO on Nov 8, 2023 10:17:27 GMT
So Ruislip to Ickenham gets two routes to Heathrow.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Nov 8, 2023 10:17:37 GMT
I would expect the U1, U2, U3 and U4 contracts to be extended by one year and be re-tendered all together again. The report is to be published in mid-2024, so this gives an indication that the U routes have had their contracts extended with TFL and Metroline reaching an agreement, but hasn't been made public yet. The easy read sheet says the changes could take place 27th April 2024, I believe the retender date is then.... Oh, didn't see that, I was going off by the 'what happens next' section as it stated that the report will be published on the website in mid-2024.
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Post by justjxck1994 on Nov 8, 2023 10:19:45 GMT
PROPOSAL ONE (U1 & U3) Merge U1 and U3 to create a new, high frequency U3 bus route from Ruislip to Heathrow
The new U3 service would serve Uxbridge town centre, Brunel University (westside of campus), Hillingdon Hospital and West Drayton station.
To match demand, buses could run more often, around every 10 minutes Monday to Saturday daytimes, and every 12 minutes on evenings and Sundays.
Compared to roughly every 12-15 minutes Monday to Saturday daytimes, or every 20-30 minutes on evenings and Sundays now.
PROPOSAL TWO (U2)
Proposal Two a. Reroute U2 to West Drayton station to give new links to the Elizabeth line, it would no longer stop at Brunel University
Passengers for Brunel University could change onto the U4 or U7 at Hillingdon Hospital or walk 13 minutes.
The U2 would reroute at Hillingdon Hospital to connect to the Elizabeth Line at West Drayton station via Cowley Station Road, Cowley High Street, Cowley High Road, West Drayton High Street, Station Approach and terminate at West Drayton Station. b. U2 would serve Oak Farm Estate at all operational times, instead of just middays Mondays to Saturdays
The U2 currently operates as a hail and ride service on Grosvenor Crescent, Leybourne Road and Ryefield Avenue on middays Mondays to Saturdays.
This means 300 households on the Oak Farm estate are remote from the bus network most of the time.
Depending on local feedback, we may introduce new fixed bus stops.
PROPOSAL THREE (E7) a. Improve bus services in Ruislip by extending E7 from Ruislip West End Road to Bishop Ramsey High School/Highgrove leisure centre b. To simplify route through Ruislip town centre, the E7 would no longer stop at Ruislip station, Wood Lane, Ickenham Road or Pembroke Road
Eastcote Road To increase bus services in Ruislip, the E7 extension would run along the northern end of Ruislip High Street and western end of Eastcote Road.
This section of Eastcote Road isn’t currently served by buses, so new stops would be needed.
The E7 uses double deck buses.
Ruislip Station The E7 would no longer stop at Ruislip station.
To access the station, passengers would walk 180 metres. Up to 1,225 passengers (18%) would be affected.
However, some of these people would benefit from being closer to the High Street.
Simplified route in Ruislip town centre The E7 would no longer follow the off peak route on Wood Lane, Ickenham Road or Pembroke Road.
This means Wood Lane would no longer be served by a bus service, however local services are around 400 metres or 5 - 6 minute walk on Ruislip High Street.
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Post by COBO on Nov 8, 2023 10:23:23 GMT
So will the E7 be converted to double deck for this extension? Why does TfL think that the E7 uses double deckers 😂
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Post by TB123 on Nov 8, 2023 10:24:18 GMT
PROPOSAL ONE (U1 & U3) Merge U1 and U3 to create a new, high frequency U3 bus route from Ruislip to Heathrow The new U3 service would serve Uxbridge town centre, Brunel University (westside of campus), Hillingdon Hospital and West Drayton station. To match demand, buses could run more often, around every 10 minutes Monday to Saturday daytimes, and every 12 minutes on evenings and Sundays. Compared to roughly every 12-15 minutes Monday to Saturday daytimes, or every 20-30 minutes on evenings and Sundays now. PROPOSAL TWO (U2) Proposal Two a. Reroute U2 to West Drayton station to give new links to the Elizabeth line, it would no longer stop at Brunel University Passengers for Brunel University could change onto the U4 or U7 at Hillingdon Hospital or walk 13 minutes. The U2 would reroute at Hillingdon Hospital to connect to the Elizabeth Line at West Drayton station via Cowley Station Road, Cowley High Street, Cowley High Road, West Drayton High Street, Station Approach and terminate at West Drayton Station. b. U2 would serve Oak Farm Estate at all operational times, instead of just middays Mondays to Saturdays The U2 currently operates as a hail and ride service on Grosvenor Crescent, Leybourne Road and Ryefield Avenue on middays Mondays to Saturdays. This means 300 households on the Oak Farm estate are remote from the bus network most of the time. Depending on local feedback, we may introduce new fixed bus stops. PROPOSAL THREE (E7) a. Improve bus services in Ruislip by extending E7 from Ruislip West End Road to Bishop Ramsey High School/Highgrove leisure centre b. To simplify route through Ruislip town centre, the E7 would no longer stop at Ruislip station, Wood Lane, Ickenham Road or Pembroke Road Eastcote Road To increase bus services in Ruislip, the E7 extension would run along the northern end of Ruislip High Street and western end of Eastcote Road. This section of Eastcote Road isn’t currently served by buses, so new stops would be needed. The E7 uses double deck buses. Ruislip Station The E7 would no longer stop at Ruislip station. To access the station, passengers would walk 180 metres. Up to 1,225 passengers (18%) would be affected. However, some of these people would benefit from being closer to the High Street. Simplified route in Ruislip town centre The E7 would no longer follow the off peak route on Wood Lane, Ickenham Road or Pembroke Road. This means Wood Lane would no longer be served by a bus service, however local services are around 400 metres or 5 - 6 minute walk on Ruislip High Street. Funny looking double decks on the E7.... Wonder whether the U3 will use single or double decks, hopefully the latter. Looking at it the E7 may be able to continue with 11 PVR with the rerouting away from Wood Lane.
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Post by TB123 on Nov 8, 2023 10:25:14 GMT
So will the E7 be converted to double deck for this extension? If it does, the R70 with it's 11PVR/12TVR electric single deck requirement is ideal for 1701-1712.... Before folk get carried away, I suspect it's a typo.
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Post by COBO on Nov 8, 2023 10:28:07 GMT
So will the E7 be converted to double deck for this extension? If it does, the R70 with it's 11PVR/12TVR electric single deck requirement is ideal for 1701-1712.... Before folk get carried away, I suspect it's a typo. Your probably right about it being a typo but I really hope it’s not.
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Post by WH241 on Nov 8, 2023 10:38:22 GMT
The easy read sheet says the changes could take place 27th April 2024, I believe the retender date is then.... Oh, didn't see that, I was going off by the 'what happens next' section as it stated that the report will be published on the website in mid-2024. But does make you wonder though. The tenders should have been awarded around May this year so are extremely late and doesn’t leave much time to award the routes before April 2024.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 8, 2023 10:49:45 GMT
Oh, didn't see that, I was going off by the 'what happens next' section as it stated that the report will be published on the website in mid-2024. But does make you wonder though. The tenders should have been awarded around May this year so are extremely late and doesn’t leave much time to award the routes before April 2024. To be honest if the results come out in the next few weeks and are retains then it should be fine.
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