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Post by Nathan on Oct 29, 2014 18:04:12 GMT
But that still doesn't explain why you don't like the number 48. Its a rather irrational, but personal reason I don't like the number. I'm trying to kick these irrational habits, but I doesn't seem to be working Well...erm...good luck with getting rid if those habits I guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 20:11:51 GMT
Perhaps I am too much of an old grumpy git but why is anyone bothered about a route number? It's the sort of thing 4 year olds argue about in the nursery playground.    Well depends, remember earlier this year the debate of the pointless idea renumber the N136 to N436 when it really was not required just because of a short extension of the 136, quite a few thought it should stay as it is, if anything TFL make more of a fuss over route numbers than anyone lol, and now TFL want to renumber the T33... If the T31 and T32 are going I can see why TfL want rid of the T-prefixes - leaving just one as a result of the scheme doesn't seem worth it. |
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Post by COBO on Nov 2, 2014 12:47:01 GMT
I like to avoid route 8, 9, 10, 11, 24, 38, 148, 390 and 453 because of LTs lol. I use to love going on these routes but ever since they were converted to LTs I avoid them well try to.
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Post by Green Kitten on Nov 2, 2014 14:30:48 GMT
I like to avoid route 8, 9, 10, 11, 24, 38, 148, 390 and 453 because of LTs lol. I use to love going on these routes but ever since they were converted to LTs I avoid them well try to. You don't have to worry about going on these routes every day!  These days, if I'm not going to uni with my housemates, I instead walk down to Kensington Olympia and take Abellio's fantastic hybrids on the 49 to get there. Or I just walk it all the way there, if it's pleasant outside. I had a fantastic ride on the 48 yesterday on a lovely SP. It's actually quite an interesting route from the top-deck. Oh... and not liking a route because of its number... hmm, that sort of reminds me of me when I was younger!  I'm not sure I'll ever be able to accept Metroline's buses on the 34...  |
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Post by Nathan on Nov 2, 2014 14:35:11 GMT
I like to avoid route 8, 9, 10, 11, 24, 38, 148, 390 and 453 because of LTs lol. I use to love going on these routes but ever since they were converted to LTs I avoid them well try to. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to accept Metroline's buses on the 34... Oh...is that so? www.flickr.com/photos/124193440@N06/15062296084/ |
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Post by Green Kitten on Nov 2, 2014 14:40:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 15:57:05 GMT
Well, here's my list,
Bus Types:
Marshall Capital. (Spot one. You'll know why.)
Scania Omnicity (Rattles too much, chairs are painful to sit on for a long time.)
09-reg Wright Gemini 2 Hybrid (Rattles too much)
Wright Gemini 3 Hybrid (I only say this because of the annoying feeling I get when the gears change. You know, that staggering feeling.)
Arriva 08-Reg Enviro400's (Hate them. Painful seats, poorly-maintained buses, very slow)
Transbus Pointers (Don't get me wrong. I like these buses, but because I'm a tall person, I hate the lack of legroom on these buses.)
Wright Cadets (Legroom as well)
All British and Irish buses Go-ahead London ordered between 2007 and 2011 (The blue lighting really p****s me off)
Optare Olympus (Lack of ligiting downstairs due to the tiny rear window)
Euro V Enviro 400 Hybrids (Take too long to reach maximum RPM)
Bus Routes:
345: Boring, dull Route in general
G1: Seriously? An hour and 10 minutes to get to Streatham? Take 319 instead, guys.
249: Boring route.
35: Abellio bought these buses at the wrong time.
25: Buses are always full, too many stops and unsatisfying passengers from Stratford towards Ilford
108: ...needs new buses.
450: long waits and full buses. as far as i'm concerned, there is no reason why this route can't have double-deck buses.
333: boring route. Also needs new buses.
109: very unnecessary route.
I also don't like the way Brixton Bus Garage mix-and-match buses on thier routes. sometimes I end up with an unrefurbished, dirty and smelly bus on a route 50. Same goes to Camberwell. I was fine with their mix-and-match behaviour until they brought unrefurbished 52-reg Wright Geminis with worn-out seats and tired interiors on their routes.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 2, 2014 17:14:32 GMT
Well, here's my list, Bus Types: Arriva 08-Reg Enviro400's (Hate them. Painful seats, poorly-maintained buses, very slow) Transbus Pointers (Don't get me wrong. I like these buses, but because I'm a tall person, I hate the lack of legroom on these buses.) Bus Routes: 345: Boring, dull Route in general G1: Seriously? An hour and 10 minutes to get to Streatham? Take 319 instead, guys. 249: Boring route. 35: Abellio bought these buses at the wrong time. 25: Buses are always full, too many stops and unsatisfying passengers from Stratford towards Ilford 108: ...needs new buses. 450: long waits and full buses. as far as i'm concerned, there is no reason why this route can't have double-deck buses. 333: boring route. Also needs new buses. 109: very unnecessary route. I also don't like the way Brixton Bus Garage mix-and-match buses on thier routes. sometimes I end up with an unrefurbished, dirty and smelly bus on a route 50. Same goes to Camberwell. I was fine with their mix-and-match behaviour until they brought unrefurbished 52-reg Wright Geminis with worn-out seats and tired interiors on their routes. Arriva 08 reg T's - they are not all slow, some are restricted but there are some fast ones too. I also don't understand everyone's issue with the Circlo seats - I've back trouble and yet I've no issue with those seats. Transbus Darts - the legroom is practically the same on all Darts whether built by Plaxton, Transbus or Alexander Dennis - if you hate them for legroom, I'm surprised you don't hate a lot of Enviro 200's for the same reason. Route 35: Abellio didn't buy the 09 reg Enviro 400's, it was Travel London who ordered them and there was nothing wrong with them until Abellio started restricting them Route 333: There is nothing wrong with the WVL's Route 109: How can South & South East London's third busiest route be unnecessary? If you said you hate it for being packed and slow, I'd agree with you but it certainly isn't unnecessarily - without it, the 250 would be completely screwed. I'd be interested to hear your response as it seems you live in the same area as myself. |
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Post by Nathan on Nov 2, 2014 17:28:15 GMT
Well, here's my list, Bus Types: Arriva 08-Reg Enviro400's (Hate them. Painful seats, poorly-maintained buses, very slow) Transbus Pointers (Don't get me wrong. I like these buses, but because I'm a tall person, I hate the lack of legroom on these buses.) Bus Routes: 345: Boring, dull Route in general G1: Seriously? An hour and 10 minutes to get to Streatham? Take 319 instead, guys. 249: Boring route. 35: Abellio bought these buses at the wrong time. 25: Buses are always full, too many stops and unsatisfying passengers from Stratford towards Ilford 108: ...needs new buses. 450: long waits and full buses. as far as i'm concerned, there is no reason why this route can't have double-deck buses. 333: boring route. Also needs new buses. 109: very unnecessary route. I also don't like the way Brixton Bus Garage mix-and-match buses on thier routes. sometimes I end up with an unrefurbished, dirty and smelly bus on a route 50. Same goes to Camberwell. I was fine with their mix-and-match behaviour until they brought unrefurbished 52-reg Wright Geminis with worn-out seats and tired interiors on their routes. Arriva 08 reg T's - they are not all slow, some are restricted but there are some fast ones too. I also don't understand everyone's issue with the Circlo seats - I've back trouble and yet I've no issue with those seats. Route 333: There is nothing wrong with the WVL's I agree with 'mikejnr' completely about what he said on the 08-reg. I tend to avoid the 135 for this reasons. And lets face it, Circlo seats aren't exactly the comfiest seats around. The Civic seats on the 61-reg and above are better. And aren't all of SW's B7TLs restricted? And even ignoring that, the 02-reg are pretty slow (like some of AF's 52-reg). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 17:47:46 GMT
Arriva 08 reg T's - they are not all slow, some are restricted but there are some fast ones too. I also don't understand everyone's issue with the Circlo seats - I've back trouble and yet I've no issue with those seats. Transbus Darts - the legroom is practically the same on all Darts whether built by Plaxton, Transbus or Alexander Dennis - if you hate them for legroom, I'm surprised you don't hate a lot of Enviro 200's for the same reason. Route 35: Abellio didn't buy the 09 reg Enviro 400's, it was Travel London who ordered them and there was nothing wrong with them until Abellio started restricting them Route 333: There is nothing wrong with the WVL's Route 109: How can South & South East London's third busiest route be unnecessary? If you said you hate it for being packed and slow, I'd agree with you but it certainly isn't unnecessarily - without it, the 250 would be completely screwed. I'd be interested to hear your response as it seems you live in the same area as myself. Sorry, I tried to make myself crystal clear. Firstly, I am fully standing by my opinion on the 08-reg T's and the uncomfortable seats. I al;so have been having back problems since i was 10 and those seats are a nightmare. I also didn't say "Darts", i said "pointers"!  I tried to make that clear because I have no problem regarding legroom on the enviro200's. I don't hate the buses either. I did make a tiny mistake with 35, I was meant to say Travel London. With the 333, you can't seriously tell me that you are 100% happy with 11 year-old buses running on that bus route and having odd workings every now and then. Surely you would like to see some fresh buses on that route. And yes, I do agree the buses on 109 are always packed and slow, but i would have said the same thing for the 250 as well. There is no need for 2 routes going to the same destinations and having almost identical routings. IMO, i think one route should teminate at thornton heath pond and be extended from Brixton to somewhere closer to central london for better transport links. |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 2, 2014 18:13:22 GMT
I will be slightly amazed if any of those Volvos turn up on the 34. I know they're not scheduled to but it will be a surprise to see something that shape in E17. I expect I will be having a "goodbye to Arriva" thrashathon to Barnet sometime next week. I've got a few bits and bobs of routes to finish off at Barnet. I expect we will see the final appearance of DLAs on the 123 as well as Arriva will kill off the DLPs and older DLAs leaving the rump of newer DLAs to run the 125. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 2, 2014 18:16:58 GMT
Arriva 08 reg T's - they are not all slow, some are restricted but there are some fast ones too. I also don't understand everyone's issue with the Circlo seats - I've back trouble and yet I've no issue with those seats. Transbus Darts - the legroom is practically the same on all Darts whether built by Plaxton, Transbus or Alexander Dennis - if you hate them for legroom, I'm surprised you don't hate a lot of Enviro 200's for the same reason. Route 35: Abellio didn't buy the 09 reg Enviro 400's, it was Travel London who ordered them and there was nothing wrong with them until Abellio started restricting them Route 333: There is nothing wrong with the WVL's Route 109: How can South & South East London's third busiest route be unnecessary? If you said you hate it for being packed and slow, I'd agree with you but it certainly isn't unnecessarily - without it, the 250 would be completely screwed. I'd be interested to hear your response as it seems you live in the same area as myself. Sorry, I tried to make myself crystal clear. Firstly, I am fully standing by my opinion on the 08-reg T's and the uncomfortable seats. I al;so have been having back problems since i was 10 and those seats are a nightmare. I also didn't say "Darts", i said "pointers"! I tried to make that clear because I have no problem regarding legroom on the enviro200's. I don't hate the buses either. I did make a tiny mistake with 35, I was meant to say Travel London. With the 333, you can't seriously tell me that you are 100% happy with 11 year-old buses running on that bus route and having odd workings every now and then. Surely you would like to see some fresh buses on that route. And yes, I do agree the buses on 109 are always packed and slow, but i would have said the same thing for the 250 as well. There is no need for 2 routes going to the same destinations and having almost identical routings. IMO, i think one route should teminate at thornton heath pond and be extended from Brixton to somewhere closer to central london for better transport links. Regarding the 08 reg T's, I stand by my point and have back problems so there we go! If you read my description after 'Transbus Darts', you'd of noticed I was talking about Pointer Darts. Maybe, you've retractable legs of some kind as otherwise, I'm unsure how you have legroom in Enviro 200's but have no legroom in Pointer Darts. Regarding the 333, I'm very happy with the WVL's running the route, there is nothing wrong with having 11 year old buses or odd workings on the route. New buses aren't 'the be and end all' that you may think. The fact that the 109 & 250 are busy end to end shows that two routes from Brixton to Croydon are very much needed. Do you know how many people you are going to inconvene by cutting it to Thornton Heath Pond - the 250 gets even busier as a result meaning that Green Lane & Parchmore Road residents will struggle to get on packed buses, majority of London Road residents will have to get 2 buses to Croydon and passengers north of Streatham Hill wishing to travel to Croydon having an increased journey time. Brixton has already got good transport links with Central London, what Brixton needs is one or two more links east and west of it. |
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Post by Green Kitten on Nov 2, 2014 22:04:13 GMT
Not sure about SW's WVLs, but going by AF's WVLs, and a ride on a 333 a long time ago, they don't seem like they're 11 years old, they're in very good condition! I'm glad that the 14/22/74 can't get the ovens-on-wheels. Just avoid the awful AF B9TLs and you're set for a good ride!  Oh, add those things to buses I avoid, AF Gemini 2/B9TLs. Good thing as they never turn up when I'm taking an AF route anyway. I don't mind the hybrids, though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 22:05:51 GMT
Regarding the 08 reg T's, I stand by my point and have back problems so there we go! If you read my description after 'Transbus Darts', you'd of noticed I was talking about Pointer Darts. Maybe, you've retractable legs of some kind as otherwise, I'm unsure how you have legroom in Enviro 200's but have no legroom in Pointer Darts. Regarding the 333, I'm very happy with the WVL's running the route, there is nothing wrong with having 11 year old buses or odd workings on the route. New buses aren't 'the be and end all' that you may think. The fact that the 109 & 250 are busy end to end shows that two routes from Brixton to Croydon are very much needed. Do you know how many people you are going to inconvene by cutting it to Thornton Heath Pond - the 250 gets even busier as a result meaning that Green Lane & Parchmore Road residents will struggle to get on packed buses, majority of London Road residents will have to get 2 buses to Croydon and passengers north of Streatham Hill wishing to travel to Croydon having an increased journey time. Brixton has already got good transport links with Central London, what Brixton needs is one or two more links east and west of it. Let's not get into an argument about what I said, alright? They're my views, and I'm sorry you disagree with them, Vjaska, but that's the way it is, and I don't want to start a fight about it. Anyway...I also forgot to add on to my list of bus types I would like to avoid, the Voith B9TL Wright Gemini 2's owned by Tower Transit; I'm just used to ZF transmissions in B9TL Gemini 2's, i would always try to get a ZF B9TL on the route. Same thing for Voith Enviro200 Darts. I grew up familiar with the sound of the Allison gearboxes on Dennis Darts, so it's just very weird to hear the engine like that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 23:20:55 GMT
Forgive me but I don't understand a thing from the last two pages. Ok, LX09FBJ doesn't like the 48 but I don't get why? And does he like Leyton T? |
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I tried to make that clear because I have no problem regarding legroom on the enviro200's. I don't hate the buses either. I did make a tiny mistake with 35, I was meant to say Travel London. With the 333, you can't seriously tell me that you are 100% happy with 11 year-old buses running on that bus route and having odd workings every now and then. Surely you would like to see some fresh buses on that route. And yes, I do agree the buses on 109 are always packed and slow, but i would have said the same thing for the 250 as well. There is no need for 2 routes going to the same destinations and having almost identical routings. IMO, i think one route should teminate at thornton heath pond and be extended from Brixton to somewhere closer to central london for better transport links.