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Post by sid on Jun 6, 2017 9:47:54 GMT
Hmm, they don't look particularly safe for cyclists on such a busy cycle corridor. One of the reasons pedestrian guard rail (read 'pedestrian pens') has been removed over the last few years is that cyclists were crushed against them. The barriers should be moved over to cover the cyclist lane then they could kill two birds with one stone. Not perfect but something clearly had to be done after two such incidents on bridges. I was under the impression that the reason pedestrian guard rails have been removed over recent years is because pedestrians often found themselves trapped on the wrong side and the safely benefits were questionable. |
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Post by rambo on Jun 6, 2017 11:10:25 GMT
Too bad. If it is one thing I have hated over the years that many of these barriers were removed. As it stopped people jay-walking into traffic. It is no one there is more casualties or deaths from pedestrians, mainly in town centres since they have been removed. The barriers didn't stop everyone from jay walking - many in Brixton would do it when we had barriers up. Also, I'm pretty sure the number of people being hit is down to worsening driver standards. Nothing to do with driving standards- people just walk out without looking. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 6, 2017 12:30:47 GMT
Too bad. If it is one thing I have hated over the years that many of these barriers were removed. As it stopped people jay-walking into traffic. It is no one there is more casualties or deaths from pedestrians, mainly in town centres since they have been removed. The barriers didn't stop everyone from jay walking - many in Brixton would do it when we had barriers up. Also, I'm pretty sure the number of people being hit is down to worsening driver standards. Nope, a lot of these locations where people are now hit people didn't cross there, they went to the designated places. Now its a free for all. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 6, 2017 12:32:40 GMT
Hmm, they don't look particularly safe for cyclists on such a busy cycle corridor. One of the reasons pedestrian guard rail (read 'pedestrian pens') has been removed over the last few years is that cyclists were crushed against them. The barriers should be moved over to cover the cyclist lane then they could kill two birds with one stone. Not perfect but something clearly had to be done after two such incidents on bridges. I was under the impression that the reason pedestrian guard rails have been removed over recent years is because pedestrians often found themselves trapped on the wrong side and the safely benefits were questionable. many campaigns back in the early 200's for them to be removed, saying they didn't want to feel like cattle and be "penned in" and should be free to cross where they want to. |
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Post by mondraker275 on Jun 6, 2017 15:44:52 GMT
Hmm, they don't look particularly safe for cyclists on such a busy cycle corridor. One of the reasons pedestrian guard rail (read 'pedestrian pens') has been removed over the last few years is that cyclists were crushed against them. The barriers should be moved over to cover the cyclist lane then they could kill two birds with one stone. Not perfect but something clearly had to be done after two such incidents on bridges. I was under the impression that the reason pedestrian guard rails have been removed over recent years is because pedestrians often found themselves trapped on the wrong side and the safely benefits were questionable. Let me jumble things a bit more. I thought the removal of guard rails, especially at junctions, was to 'de-clutter' the pavement. They would also help wheelchair users, create more room and was less of an eye-sore. I quite often cross roads at odd places at my convenience, I guess everybody does to some capacity. Its just efficient. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 6, 2017 17:54:49 GMT
Not perfect but something clearly had to be done after two such incidents on bridges. I was under the impression that the reason pedestrian guard rails have been removed over recent years is because pedestrians often found themselves trapped on the wrong side and the safely benefits were questionable. Let me jumble things a bit more. I thought the removal of guard rails, especially at junctions, was to 'de-clutter' the pavement. They would also help wheelchair users, create more room and was less of an eye-sore. I quite often cross roads at odd places at my convenience, I guess everybody does to some capacity. Its just efficient. Indeed and if done sensibly, jay walking causes no issues to road users. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 6, 2017 17:57:21 GMT
The barriers didn't stop everyone from jay walking - many in Brixton would do it when we had barriers up. Also, I'm pretty sure the number of people being hit is down to worsening driver standards. Nope, a lot of these locations where people are now hit people didn't cross there, they went to the designated places. Now its a free for all. Like I said, that wasn't the case in Brixton where we had barriers and people still chose to climb over and cross at other places. Jay walking can be done perfectly safely if the person doing it is sensible. |
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Post by planesandtrains on Jun 6, 2017 20:00:11 GMT
Double Decker Anton was caught up in the attack, driving the 40, he very kindly posted this video :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOo4IzSapUM&feature=push-u&attr_tag=Mq4XHLPwjonHOzAz-6
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