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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 23, 2017 23:33:49 GMT
TfL decided yesterday to curtail Uber's licence. The timing is intriguing, as MP Rebecca Long-Bailey decided to boycott Uber a few months ago, and it was her birthday yesterday!
Given that Uber are one of the reasons for worsening traffic in London, and now contributing to why bus services are being cut, it is good news for us and people who cannot afford taxis in particular that Uber's licence is being curtailed.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 24, 2017 0:44:26 GMT
This statement from Uber www.change.org/p/save-your-uber-in-london-saveyouruberI heard the tail end of an interview on the radio with an Uber spokesperson earlier and if I understood them correctly they were saying it was the responsibility of TfL to do the necessary checks on drivers and that they can only employ them once TfL had issued them with the appropriate licence. I have no vested interest in this, I very rarely use taxi's or mini cabs, but I'm a bit unclear as to what Uber have done wrong, there certainly seems to be plenty of support from them from their customers, apparently more than 500,000 have signed the petition. As for the argument about them allegedly not treating their staff very well, that can be levelled at a lot of employers these days especially certain food outlets. A lot of women seem to feel safer using Uber www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41365995One example - drivers are required to undergo a medical check. They are supposed to physically see a doctor who has full access to their entire medical history - so most likely a GP. However many drivers are not seeing doctors face to face. The doctors they "see" over the Internet do not have access to their medical histories. Now you get into interesting territory here because, as we know, Uber say they don't employ drivers. Unfortunately for Uber those lovely people at HMRC do think the drivers are employees as do the English courts. Now *if* Uber do employ the drivers they have a duty of care to their employees and have a responsibility to ensure that those staff comply with the medical check requirements fully. Otherwise how can the travelling public be assured that the drivers can see and hear properly and are otherwise fit to drive a vehicle carrying fare paying passengers. If all the other minicab / private hire companies who trade in London comply with the medical check process why can't Uber? This is the crux of the issue - Uber believe they just supply an app so are a technology company and not a transport operator. Everything else is not their responsibility. TfL (and others) clearly view this differently. I am sure the courts will get chapter and verse on this (and the other arguments). Like you I don't have any personal axe to grind here. However I do get irritated and concerned about companies playing semantics when the safety of the public may be at risk. I thought we were long past this sort of cr*p in this country. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 17:57:33 GMT
The retreat has already started. Mayor has asked TfL to meet Uber to "discuss"
Uber deploying PR teams and lawyers all over it.
TfL may wish to rethink their strategy, because it will cost them dearly if they lose.
Them means us
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Post by MoEnviro on Sept 25, 2017 18:32:38 GMT
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Post by 6HP502C on Sept 26, 2017 15:56:06 GMT
A bit like a the taximeter... I hope TfL go and ban black cabs from bus lanes. My journey through Westminister/Traflagar Square yesterday delayed by taxis using the bus lanes. I've never understood why taxi's are allowed to use bus lane's? It seems to me that the black cab trade have a bit too much clout? It's the only way they can pick up hailing punters where a bus lane is in place. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 28, 2017 22:17:03 GMT
Uber are just as bas as Ryan Air, would never use any of the companies. Bunch of unethical cowboys
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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2017 0:08:02 GMT
Uber are just as bas as Ryan Air, would never use any of the companies. Bunch of unethical cowboys I'd happily use Uber again as my experience has been good with them but at the same time, I won't shed a tear for any of the big guys at Uber if the appeal fails. As for Ryanair, I've got a flight with them in October which was booked before the scandal and honestly, I probably wouldn't use them again especially as we were unsure if our flight is unaffected at one stage as it's a completely different situation to Uber in many respects. |
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Post by snoggle on Sept 29, 2017 0:19:22 GMT
Uber are just as bas as Ryan Air, would never use any of the companies. Bunch of unethical cowboys I'd happily use Uber again as my experience has been good with them but at the same time, I won't shed a tear for any of the big guys at Uber if the appeal fails. As for Ryanair, I've got a flight with them in October which was booked before the scandal and honestly, I probably wouldn't use them again especially as we were unsure if our flight is unaffected at one stage as it's a completely different situation to Uber in many respects.There is one fairly fundamental similarity. Uber and Mr "Ryanair" both see themselves as breaking the mould, doing something new, smashing the old way of doing stuff. Along with that "daring do" b*ll*cks is their distinctly dodgy approach to regulators and regulations. Ryanair have appalling form for how they treat their passengers - especially in relation to their rights for compensation, refunds, care and assistance and other things. If they can be that cavalier with regards to consumer law what else are they cavalier about? Pilot hours, cabin crew training, aircraft maintenance??? Obviously it's a very thin line for an airline as a history of crashes / failures can destroy your company / reputation but I wouldn't touch Ryanair with a barge pole. I'm not really very happy about any of the "budget" airlines to be honest. No one would deny that there were issues in the 70s and 80s with very dodgy collusion and charging practices between the big airlines nor that there was plenty of scope to reduce prices by improved efficiency but, in a safety critical industry, that are limits as to how far that downward pressure can go. Seems clear to me that Mr O'Leary has just found out the limits to which he can stretch (or not) his workforce hence all the cancellations. |
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Post by sid on Sept 29, 2017 9:02:57 GMT
I've never understood why taxi's are allowed to use bus lane's? It seems to me that the black cab trade have a bit too much clout? It's the only way they can pick up hailing punters where a bus lane is in place. Fair point but once they have passengers on board they should keep out of bus lanes. |
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Post by sid on Sept 29, 2017 9:04:34 GMT
Uber are just as bas as Ryan Air, would never use any of the companies. Bunch of unethical cowboys I can't agree with that, personally I wouldn't use Ryanair but I'd have no qualms about using uber. |
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Post by VPL630 on Sept 29, 2017 15:00:14 GMT
I don’t see Uber disappearing being a massive change, most minicab services already have apps that work just like uber, there is also Addison Lee.
The bus driver in me hates them, but then again as soon as I see a Prius I know I’ve got a gap to pull out in hahah
The person in me loves them, cheap, short wait times, interesting selection of cars ( Anything from a Prius to an S63 AMG) never had an issue with them.
I’m also a person that will request they pick me in certain areas where I know they will get a PCN for stopping, eg Cameraed bus stop/taxi rank, it separates the smart people, it may be mean but at the end of the day they choose where to stop
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 3, 2017 10:00:51 GMT
Uber are just as bas as Ryan Air, would never use any of the companies. Bunch of unethical cowboys I'd happily use Uber again as my experience has been good with them but at the same time, I won't shed a tear for any of the big guys at Uber if the appeal fails. As for Ryanair, I've got a flight with them in October which was booked before the scandal and honestly, I probably wouldn't use them again especially as we were unsure if our flight is unaffected at one stage as it's a completely different situation to Uber in many respects. I am not a minicab person anyway, so highly unlikely to use them and then uber would rank bottom if I were to ever use them. I would avoid Ryan Air like the plague, it is a shame a decent Airline like Monarch folded instead of Ryan Air. Ryan Air's shred policies is why they have made so much money. Their aircraft maintenance is shocking compared to many other UK airlines and I have been told that by a few people I know working in the aviation industry. They treat the staff poorly and the passengers even worse. They have no mercy whatsoever. I had the option of using them this year and I paid more money to use two separate different airlines for a flight.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 28, 2017 18:40:34 GMT
Uber are just as bas as Ryan Air, would never use any of the companies. Bunch of unethical cowboys No chance of you using an Uber cab to get to an airport for a Ryanair flight then?  |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 29, 2017 18:42:07 GMT
Uber are just as bas as Ryan Air, would never use any of the companies. Bunch of unethical cowboys No chance of you using an Uber cab to get to an airport for a Ryanair flight then? I flew back from Spain 2 weeks ago on a Ryanair flight then caught an Uber home. I also took an Uber to work this morning and home as I just missed the 366 outside Beckton depot. I fly at least 3 times a year, short-haul, and Ryanair is generally my first port of call for booking tickets. I've never had a problem with either business |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 26, 2018 16:45:17 GMT
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