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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 5, 2022 16:38:14 GMT
Is it only the daytime service of the 94 that’s being planned to be withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? Or is both the daytime and night service of the 94 being withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? No one really knows. The consultation said there would be an N94 but nothing mroe has been really said. I hope it does remain to Piccadilly at night.
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Post by richard on Mar 5, 2022 17:26:27 GMT
Is it only the daytime service of the 94 that’s being planned to be withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? Or is both the daytime and night service of the 94 being withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? No one really knows. The consultation said there would be an N94 but nothing mroe has been really said. I hope it does remain to Piccadilly at night. It wouldn't surprise me if both were cut personally.
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Post by YX10FFN on Mar 5, 2022 17:32:19 GMT
No one really knows. The consultation said there would be an N94 but nothing mroe has been really said. I hope it does remain to Piccadilly at night. It wouldn't surprise me if both were cut personally. No reason why the night route has to be cut. Charles II Street will be a free stand at night anyways. Would maintain a useful purpose at night
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 5, 2022 21:33:09 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if both were cut personally. No reason why the night route has to be cut. Charles II Street will be a free stand at night anyways. Would maintain a useful purpose at night Not if the 24h 14 stands there though ofcourse it would be easy enough for 2 night routes to fit on a 2 bus stand.
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Post by YX10FFN on Mar 5, 2022 21:37:18 GMT
No reason why the night route has to be cut. Charles II Street will be a free stand at night anyways. Would maintain a useful purpose at night Not if the 24h 14 stands there though ofcourse it would be easy enough for 2 night routes to fit on a 2 bus stand. Off the top of my head CII Street could fit 5 buses in total. It might be a tight squeeze but in principal you could fit the 14 and 94 there together. Expanding the stand to the east and getting rid of the loading area allows for one more bus
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Post by M1104 on Mar 6, 2022 10:16:44 GMT
Now that the 159 has been withdrawn between Oxford Circus and Marble Arch. Due to the fact that the N109 goes the way as the 159 between Oxford Circus and Streatham. I wonder why TfL didn't withdraw night service of the 159. Could be waiting for the present 159 contract to end (12/22) to tie it with any planned changes, somewhat like they did with the 414's cutback and the C2's withdrawal.
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 6, 2022 12:19:05 GMT
Now that the 159 has been withdrawn between Oxford Circus and Marble Arch. Due to the fact that the N109 goes the way as the 159 between Oxford Circus and Streatham. I wonder why TfL didn't withdraw night service of the 159. Could be waiting for the present 159 contract to end (12/22) to tie it with any planned changes, somewhat like they did with the 414's cutback and the C2's withdrawal. That would make sense really to tender the 159 without a night option.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Mar 6, 2022 15:36:33 GMT
Could be waiting for the present 159 contract to end (12/22) to tie it with any planned changes, somewhat like they did with the 414's cutback and the C2's withdrawal. That would make sense really to tender the 159 without a night option. Honestly, why not call it N159? I'd say that makes more sense as it stalks the 159 all the way from Oxford Cir.
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Post by greenboy on Mar 6, 2022 15:45:17 GMT
Could be waiting for the present 159 contract to end (12/22) to tie it with any planned changes, somewhat like they did with the 414's cutback and the C2's withdrawal. That would make sense really to tender the 159 without a night option. I don't see why the N159 couldn't have two operators if necessary, the Streatham shorts on the 159 contract and the Croydon service on the 109 contract as it is now.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Mar 6, 2022 15:48:30 GMT
That would make sense really to tender the 159 without a night option. I don't see why the N159 couldn't have two operators if necessary, the Streatham shorts on the 159 contract and the Croydon service on the 109 contract as it is now. At the minute they are both with Abellio, albeit different garages, and it would be easier and cheaper to just add the shorts to the 109 contract.
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Post by greenboy on Mar 6, 2022 15:57:07 GMT
I don't see why the N159 couldn't have two operators if necessary, the Streatham shorts on the 159 contract and the Croydon service on the 109 contract as it is now. At the minute they are both with Abellio, albeit different garages, and it would be easier and cheaper to just add the shorts to the 109 contract. Why? Just leave it as it is other than renumbering the N109 to N159.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 6, 2022 16:05:02 GMT
At the minute they are both with Abellio, albeit different garages, and it would be easier and cheaper to just add the shorts to the 109 contract. Why? Just leave it as it is other than renumbering the N109 to N159. Why the need to waste money on a pointless renumbering, no one has a problem with it numbered as the N109. The 159's 24 hour service is something that can be easily absorbed by the current N109 with just a small frequency increase especially as traffic on the A23 is light in the early hours.
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Post by snowman on Apr 14, 2022 20:44:06 GMT
Is it only the daytime service of the 94 that’s being planned to be withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? Or is both the daytime and night service of the 94 being withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? Daytime 94 service expected to be withdrawn from 21st May between Portman Square (instead of Marble Arch) and Piccadilly Circus. The night service will become N94 and continue to Piccadilly Circus Don’t know if this date is definite, or conditional on Elizabeth line opening mid May
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Post by YX10FFN on Apr 14, 2022 21:14:54 GMT
Is it only the daytime service of the 94 that’s being planned to be withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? Or is both the daytime and night service of the 94 being withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? Daytime 94 service expected to be withdrawn from 21st May between Portman Square (instead of Marble Arch) and Piccadilly Circus. The night service will become N94 and continue to Piccadilly Circus Don’t know if this date is definite, or conditional on Elizabeth line opening mid May So does this mean they've abandoned North Row? Have to say the lack of clear information from TFL on this is frustrating. They clearly want to cut back the 94, I assume they're killing time until the Lizzie Line opens so they can force this change through without a further consultation. I'm very confident any consultation on this would come back overwhelmingly negative.
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Post by greg on Apr 15, 2022 1:26:08 GMT
Is it only the daytime service of the 94 that’s being planned to be withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? Or is both the daytime and night service of the 94 being withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus? Daytime 94 service expected to be withdrawn from 21st May between Portman Square (instead of Marble Arch) and Piccadilly Circus. The night service will become N94 and continue to Piccadilly Circus Don’t know if this date is definite, or conditional on Elizabeth line opening mid May Ridiculous, for one of London’s busiest areas, they’ve seemed to downgrade it with these changes step by step
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