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Post by northlondon83 on Mar 17, 2023 12:27:07 GMT
That report also states that one in six rail journeys in the UK is now made on the Elizabeth Line. that sounds too good to be true
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Post by borneobus on Mar 17, 2023 12:28:28 GMT
That report also states that one in six rail journeys in the UK is now made on the Elizabeth Line. Extraordinary statistic.
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 17, 2023 13:44:35 GMT
That report also states that one in six rail journeys in the UK is now made on the Elizabeth Line. that sounds too good to be true It is National Rail, so doesn't include the Underground. Even so it is the busiest single rail service in the UK, and in terms of passenger journeys is second only to Govia Thameslink Railway which has four separate (albeit overlapping) railway services. London Overground comes third and has less than two-thirds the number of journeys. The Office of Rail and Road has recently released these figures (for the period October-December 2022) and they make for interesting reading. dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/2190/passenger-rail-usage-oct-dec-2022.pdfOr a more concise write-up by ianVisits: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/the-elizabeth-line-is-the-uks-busiest-railway-61344/As he says at the end: "Build it and they will come".
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Post by borneobus on Mar 18, 2023 1:08:22 GMT
that sounds too good to be true It is National Rail, so doesn't include the Underground. Even so it is the busiest single rail service in the UK, and in terms of passenger journeys is second only to Govia Thameslink Railway which has four separate (albeit overlapping) railway services. London Overground comes third and has less than two-thirds the number of journeys. The Office of Rail and Road has recently released these figures (for the period October-December 2022) and they make for interesting reading. dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/2190/passenger-rail-usage-oct-dec-2022.pdfOr a more concise write-up by ianVisits: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/the-elizabeth-line-is-the-uks-busiest-railway-61344/As he says at the end: "Build it and they will come". As a user west of Paddington, I have been frustrated on occasion but overall Elizabeth Line is a fantastic achievement - bravo - I once described this line as a "Game-Changer" and judging by Ian Visit's words it has been in SE London. it will be interesting to see if, and how much PAX numbers grow further. "During the morning rush hour, on the eastern branch from Abbey Wood, it’s not uncommon for the trains to be almost standing room only just one stop along at Woolwich. Anecdotally, Woolwich has seen a huge surge in people using trains to get into town, as the Elizabeth line platforms are far busier than the DLR/Southeastern platforms ever were before the Elizabeth line opened.".
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Post by greenboy on Mar 18, 2023 8:46:25 GMT
As a user west of Paddington, I have been frustrated on occasion but overall Elizabeth Line is a fantastic achievement - bravo - I once described this line as a "Game-Changer" and judging by Ian Visit's words it has been in SE London. it will be interesting to see if, and how much PAX numbers grow further. "During the morning rush hour, on the eastern branch from Abbey Wood, it’s not uncommon for the trains to be almost standing room only just one stop along at Woolwich. Anecdotally, Woolwich has seen a huge surge in people using trains to get into town, as the Elizabeth line platforms are far busier than the DLR/Southeastern platforms ever were before the Elizabeth line opened.". It certainly has been a game changer for SE London and I've seen trains with standing room only after Woolwich. I guess a lot of users formally used the tube from North Greenwich and it's not uncommon to see westbound Southeastern and Thameslink trains almost empty out at Abbey Wood.
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Post by route53 on Mar 18, 2023 18:08:33 GMT
No surprise the Liz line is standing room only by Woolwich, SE have basically given up on running any semblance of a railway in recent months.
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Post by route53 on Mar 18, 2023 18:08:51 GMT
No surprise the Liz line is standing room only by Woolwich, SE have basically given up on running any semblance of a railway in recent months.
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Post by passingfordbridgeboy on Apr 7, 2023 20:51:21 GMT
Engineering works meant the Shenfield trains terminating at Liverpool Street main line platforms. I really miss the ease of alighting at these Liverpool Street platforms as I regularly enter station at Bishopsgate. Couldn't they run a service throughout the day on this " spur". Nothing too frequent, half hourly will do.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 7, 2023 21:08:50 GMT
Engineering works meant the Shenfield trains terminating at Liverpool Street main line platforms. I really miss the ease of alighting at these Liverpool Street platforms as I regularly enter station at Bishopsgate. Couldn't they run a service throughout the day on this " spur". Nothing too frequent, half hourly will do. Because that means it's one train every half an hour that's creating a harder journey and longer wait for the vast majority who continue through the core. It's a tedious walk, but it's not completely unwalkable.
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Post by VPL630 on Apr 8, 2023 14:46:06 GMT
Engineering works meant the Shenfield trains terminating at Liverpool Street main line platforms. I really miss the ease of alighting at these Liverpool Street platforms as I regularly enter station at Bishopsgate. Couldn't they run a service throughout the day on this " spur". Nothing too frequent, half hourly will do. Just change at Stratford with GA ? The timetable is complex enough as it needs to be from may where the Heathrow trains come from Shenfield
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Post by george on Apr 20, 2023 11:53:31 GMT
Anyone else noticed a big increase of faulty trains on the Elizabeth Line recently been a few in the last couple of weeks. Yesterday there was severe delays from Paddington to Shenfield due to a faulty train at Stratford and today minor delays between Hayes and Harlington and Paddington due to same reason, guessing it's trains not communicating with the signalling system?
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 24, 2023 15:05:53 GMT
It has now been confirmed for once and for all that the full Elizabeth Line timetable can come into operation on Sunday 21st May, this follows the successful software upgrade that occurred over the Easter weekend when the Central Core was closed. The main features are: - 24 trains an hour (one every 2.5 minutes) between Paddington and Whitechapel at peak times and 16 trains an hour at off-peak times. - direct trains from Shenfield and East London stations to Heathrow Airport (Terminals 2 & 3 and Terminal 5) - faster and more frequent journeys from the West into the Central Core - Additional morning peak services into Liverpool Street main line and additional evening peak trains from Liverpool Street main line - a half-hourly with-the-flow service will operate for three hours each weekday. From the same date GWR local services between London Paddington and Didcot Parkway will operate non-stop to and from Slough, apart from some early morning and late night services. tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2023/april/more-frequent-trains-and-new-journey-options-mark-one-year-of-elizabeth-line-operation
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Post by galwhv69 on Apr 24, 2023 17:33:10 GMT
Anyone else noticed a big increase of faulty trains on the Elizabeth Line recently been a few in the last couple of weeks. Yesterday there was severe delays from Paddington to Shenfield due to a faulty train at Stratford and today minor delays between Hayes and Harlington and Paddington due to same reason, guessing it's trains not communicating with the signalling system? I was speaking to someone who works on the Elizabeth Line and they said that the Easter ELR400 software update hasn't gone smoothly, with quite a few issues, including auto reverse at Westbourne Park still having problems. Recently it seems there has been a major problem every day on the line
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Post by VPL630 on Apr 25, 2023 5:46:03 GMT
Anyone else noticed a big increase of faulty trains on the Elizabeth Line recently been a few in the last couple of weeks. Yesterday there was severe delays from Paddington to Shenfield due to a faulty train at Stratford and today minor delays between Hayes and Harlington and Paddington due to same reason, guessing it's trains not communicating with the signalling system? I was speaking to someone who works on the Elizabeth Line and they said that the Easter ELR400 software update hasn't gone smoothly, with quite a few issues, including auto reverse at Westbourne Park still having problems. Recently it seems there has been a major problem every day on the line When I left work on Friday there was a 30 min gap for a Shenfield Train at Paddington, depending on where you are going it can be a pain but I always go to LST and get a nice empty fast train to Shenfield Today you’ve got a signal/points failure near Woolwich and a train failure at Paddington right in the morning peak
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 25, 2023 10:55:14 GMT
It has now been confirmed for once and for all that the full Elizabeth Line timetable can come into operation on Sunday 21st May, this follows the successful software upgrade that occurred over the Easter weekend when the Central Core was closed. The main features are: - 24 trains an hour (one every 2.5 minutes) between Paddington and Whitechapel at peak times and 16 trains an hour at off-peak times. - direct trains from Shenfield and East London stations to Heathrow Airport (Terminals 2 & 3 and Terminal 5) - faster and more frequent journeys from the West into the Central Core - Additional morning peak services into Liverpool Street main line and additional evening peak trains from Liverpool Street main line - a half-hourly with-the-flow service will operate for three hours each weekday. From the same date GWR local services between London Paddington and Didcot Parkway will operate non-stop to and from Slough, apart from some early morning and late night services. tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2023/april/more-frequent-trains-and-new-journey-options-mark-one-year-of-elizabeth-line-operationI bet people will become a bit savy to those mainline journeys as a way of getting on an empty train in the evening rush hour back to Ilford, Romford etc as opposed to one that has already picked people up in the west end and Farringdon.
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