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Post by buspete on Jan 21, 2024 21:56:00 GMT
I do too like Outernet.
I have to question the wisdom of transport planners to have engineering works on the same day as no service Elizabeth Line at Abbey Wood and no Southeastern Trains to Charing Cross. Not the first time these two have clashed.
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 23, 2024 16:04:11 GMT
Weekend engineering works on the Great Eastern Main Line will give track-bashers the opportunity to ride over little-used Elizabeth Line crossovers west of Stratford.
On all Saturdays and Sundays* in February the Great Eastern Main Line in and out of Liverpool Street will be closed and Elizabeth Line services will not operate between Stratford and Shenfield*. Trains will reverse at Stratford* and will use the emergency crossovers west of the station to change lines.
* on Sunday 18th February there will be no service at all between Paddington and Abbey Wood or Shenfield.
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Post by TNL33036 on Feb 21, 2024 16:37:53 GMT
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Post by joefrombow on Feb 27, 2024 10:11:00 GMT
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 27, 2024 10:20:03 GMT
It does beg the question of why all this work was not done ahead of the Elizabeth Line opening. Especially the overhead which was designed to cater for four Heathrow Express trains per hour in each direction and now has to cope with an electric train every two minutes at peak times. Not to mention track improvements for bigger, heavier and more frequent trains - Network Rail knew they were coming.
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Post by ronnie on Feb 27, 2024 10:32:13 GMT
It does beg the question of why all this work was not done ahead of the Elizabeth Line opening. Especially the overhead which was designed to cater for four Heathrow Express trains per hour in each direction and now has to cope with an electric train every two minutes at peak times. Not to mention track improvements for bigger, heavier and more frequent trains - Network Rail knew they were coming. Unfortunately very typical now. No investment till things actually break down; and then it gets very expensive
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 27, 2024 10:38:05 GMT
TfL is tentatively considering extensions to the Elizabeth Line, and also how to increase capacity in the Central Core. TfL is already in talks to secure finding for additional trains ahead of the opening of HS2 to Old Oak Common, currently expected in 2030. Looking ahead, TfL has the options of either increasing the service through the Central Core from 24 to 30 tph, with the extra services operating between Abbey Wood and Reading/Heathrow Airport. Alternatively, adding an extra carriage to each train increasing each one to ten coaches (for which the Central Core stations were all designed) would in itself increase capacity by 11 per cent. TfL is also exploring extensions, the most obvious is from Abbey Wood to Ebbsfleet International but that would require substantial funding as the line east of Abbey Wood would need upgrading and converting to overhead electrification. The other two extensions are much more achievable, and piggyback on two earlier extensions proposed from Terminal 5. A link to Langley could see some services to and from Reading diverted via Heathrow Airport. Alternatively (or possibly as well) a link to Staines, where there is room to construct terminal platforms adjacent to the existing station, is a possibility. These are respectively the Western Rail Link and Southern Rail Link which have already been explored as possible new lines previously. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/tfl-looking-at-extending-the-elizabeth-line-east-and-west-of-london-70533/
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Post by mkay315 on Mar 23, 2024 6:06:03 GMT
I'm trying to work out how many stations connect with a superloop route. This is what I ended up with.
Ilford, SL2 Abbey Wood, SL3 Ealing Broadway, West Ealing, Hanwell, Southall (walking distance), SL8 Hayes & Harlington, SL9 Heathrow 2&3, SL7 and SL9
I got 8 stations (7 if you don't include Southall)
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 23, 2024 7:40:30 GMT
It does beg the question of why all this work was not done ahead of the Elizabeth Line opening. Especially the overhead which was designed to cater for four Heathrow Express trains per hour in each direction and now has to cope with an electric train every two minutes at peak times. Not to mention track improvements for bigger, heavier and more frequent trains - Network Rail knew they were coming. Unfortunately very typical now. No investment till things actually break down; and then it gets very expensive We have 60 year old OHLE on a large section of the Weaver Line, lines always break at the complex junction at Hackney Downs. Some Siemens SICAT gear would be good, it's in use on Trans Pennine Express routes
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Post by joefrombow on Mar 27, 2024 15:09:04 GMT
Unfortunately very typical now. No investment till things actually break down; and then it gets very expensive We have 60 year old OHLE on a large section of the Weaver Line, lines always break at the complex junction at Hackney Downs. Some Siemens SICAT gear would be good, it's in use on Trans Pennine Express routes No service Paddington to Reading/Heathrow on Liz , GWR or HEX due to .... Overhead wire damage 😂
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 27, 2024 19:28:09 GMT
We have 60 year old OHLE on a large section of the Weaver Line, lines always break at the complex junction at Hackney Downs. Some Siemens SICAT gear would be good, it's in use on Trans Pennine Express routes No service Paddington to Reading/Heathrow on Liz , GWR or HEX due to .... Overhead wire damage 😂 it's that stupid span stuff they put up in the 90s... if one train pantograph damages the wire, it can pull the whole lot down. some complex junctions and wiring won't help things either. I thought they would have sorted this out by now...
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Post by VPL630 on Mar 28, 2024 0:22:51 GMT
No service Paddington to Reading/Heathrow on Liz , GWR or HEX due to .... Overhead wire damage 😂 it's that stupid span stuff they put up in the 90s... if one train pantograph damages the wire, it can pull the whole lot down. some complex junctions and wiring won't help things either. I thought they would have sorted this out by now... It wasn't this time, it was due to a faulty insulator which you could have had on modern OLE, the fault only affected the down relief line, due to its location this isn't something that could be replaced there and then and as such a contingency plan was activated, but as I type there is an OHLE team onsite fixing the issue, EL trains were stopping on the down main but not at the service levels they normally do and at the same time were getting in the way of much more important GWR services... There was also a points failure this evening to make things even better
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Post by buspete on Mar 29, 2024 1:43:09 GMT
TfL is tentatively considering extensions to the Elizabeth Line, and also how to increase capacity in the Central Core. TfL is already in talks to secure finding for additional trains ahead of the opening of HS2 to Old Oak Common, currently expected in 2030. Looking ahead, TfL has the options of either increasing the service through the Central Core from 24 to 30 tph, with the extra services operating between Abbey Wood and Reading/Heathrow Airport. Alternatively, adding an extra carriage to each train increasing each one to ten coaches (for which the Central Core stations were all designed) would in itself increase capacity by 11 per cent. TfL is also exploring extensions, the most obvious is from Abbey Wood to Ebbsfleet International but that would require substantial funding as the line east of Abbey Wood would need upgrading and converting to overhead electrification. The other two extensions are much more achievable, and piggyback on two earlier extensions proposed from Terminal 5. A link to Langley could see some services to and from Reading diverted via Heathrow Airport. Alternatively (or possibly as well) a link to Staines, where there is room to construct terminal platforms adjacent to the existing station, is a possibility. These are respectively the Western Rail Link and Southern Rail Link which have already been explored as possible new lines previously. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/tfl-looking-at-extending-the-elizabeth-line-east-and-west-of-london-70533/ Interesting. Do we know if the Elizabeth Line fleet is dual voltage like Thameslink trains? If so they could just put a set of points in before Abbey Wood and bring the Elizabeth Line train into the Southeastern platforms at Abbey Wood, where the trains can run towards Gravesend/Ebbsfleet and the services that terminate at Abbey Wood can do so at the existing terminus platforms.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 29, 2024 6:36:01 GMT
Do we know if the Elizabeth Line fleet is dual voltage like Thameslink trains? 345s are not currently fitted with DC traction equipment/rectifiers so would need modification
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 29, 2024 8:50:51 GMT
TfL is tentatively considering extensions to the Elizabeth Line, and also how to increase capacity in the Central Core. TfL is already in talks to secure finding for additional trains ahead of the opening of HS2 to Old Oak Common, currently expected in 2030. Looking ahead, TfL has the options of either increasing the service through the Central Core from 24 to 30 tph, with the extra services operating between Abbey Wood and Reading/Heathrow Airport. Alternatively, adding an extra carriage to each train increasing each one to ten coaches (for which the Central Core stations were all designed) would in itself increase capacity by 11 per cent. TfL is also exploring extensions, the most obvious is from Abbey Wood to Ebbsfleet International but that would require substantial funding as the line east of Abbey Wood would need upgrading and converting to overhead electrification. The other two extensions are much more achievable, and piggyback on two earlier extensions proposed from Terminal 5. A link to Langley could see some services to and from Reading diverted via Heathrow Airport. Alternatively (or possibly as well) a link to Staines, where there is room to construct terminal platforms adjacent to the existing station, is a possibility. These are respectively the Western Rail Link and Southern Rail Link which have already been explored as possible new lines previously. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/tfl-looking-at-extending-the-elizabeth-line-east-and-west-of-london-70533/ Interesting. Do we know if the Elizabeth Line fleet is dual voltage like Thameslink trains? If so they could just put a set of points in before Abbey Wood and bring the Elizabeth Line train into the Southeastern platforms at Abbey Wood, where the trains can run towards Gravesend/Ebbsfleet and the services that terminate at Abbey Wood can do so at the existing terminus platforms. Elizabeth Line 345 class is not dual-voltage and is not fitted with third-rail pick up, these were not specified.
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