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Post by ADH45258 on May 12, 2018 6:51:10 GMT
I didn't know any trains terminated at West Hampstead. I thought it was Willesden Green and Wembley Park. The Northern line would struggle south of Tooting Broadway as trains to Morden often arrive with still heavy loads. The ThamesLink upgrades may displace some passengers from Morden/Tooting as a faster route to central London, serving similar areas such as Elephant & Castle and St Pancras. The Edgware & High Barnet branches would likely cope with a reduction, with every other train terminating at Golders Green and somewhere near Archway. |
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Post by ADH45258 on May 12, 2018 6:58:07 GMT
Cuts to Underground: Restructure the service patterns on most lines to provide maximum frequency on the core sections. Specific sections will depend on where trains can terminate. The less-busy outer sections would then have a frequency reduction. No additional trains are needed - this may be especially useful on the Jubilee & Northern lines where a supplementary fleet has not been ordered. e.g. Jubilee Line - Cut back about half of all trains to West Hampstead, and to North Greenwich at the other end. From experience - the Jubilee line seems to almost halve in passenger volume on northbound services in the peak after West Hampstead. Similarly, terminating at North Greenwich ensures a maximum capacity to/from Canary Wharf. The Stratford to North Greenwich section has the DLR alongside partly, and some capacity on the east section of the line will be relieved by the Elizabeth Line to Stratford and Canary Wharf. The Elizabeth Line (as well as the Central Line) will be a faster link from Stratford to central London anyway. The section to Stanmore would retain a train about every 5 mins. Terminating at West Hampstead also retains a frequent service for interchange to the Metropolitan Line at Finchley Road. Not sure where Northern Line trains can terminate, but a similar scheme could take place to increase capacity through central London and to cover the Battersea extension. A revised service pattern starts on the Jubilee Line a week on Sunday which does exactly what you say - more West Hampstead and North Greenwich terminators. It also means platform 13 at Stratford will be out of use for much of the day as drivers will step back on P14/15. The peak hour service level will operate for longer hours though so that's probably NOT a saving overall. It's about trying to handle crowds across the core of the line. It will, though, be interesting to see how the Stratford flow is handled as trains are very busy most of the day with decent boarding / alighting at Canning Town and West Ham. The DLR is not exactly devoid of passengers either so it's got limited room to absorb displaced JLE pax and it's nowhere near as frequent as the Jubilee Line. The remaining Jubilee Line services between North Greenwich and Stratford should be able to take passengers travelling in the north/south direction, though this is supplemented by both DLR lines out of Stratford. Passengers travelling to central London can use other (possibly more direct) lines from Canning Town, West Ham and Stratford. And of course the Elizbeth Line with relieve all routes in the area to/from Stratford, Canary Wharf and Custom House. If possible, the maximum possible frequency of trains should operate the core West Hampstead to North Greenwich section - as far as signalling will allow, to provide a service similar to that of the Victoria Line. Trains outside of this section do tend to be less busy - a frequency of about every 5 mins will be sufficient on the Stanmore section. Though a modified timetable would be needed when events are on at Wembley, ExCel and Stratford. |
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Post by ADH45258 on May 12, 2018 7:17:25 GMT
13 Cut back to Golders Green still goes to Victoria 139 Extended to North Finchley still goes to Waterloo withdraw the 460 and extended the 260 to North Finchley but cutting it back to North Acton Station, I think mergering the 460 and 260 would make one long route. Postponeing any Tube Line Extensions until 2030 or 2035 Advertise on the TV about news meaning TFL gets paid Reintroduce Cash on Buses alongside the Contactless System. Reintroduce Drink and snack machines most of the money would go to TFL and the rest to the company providing the drinks and snacks. rebrand TFL into London Transport bring back liveries Introduce a new idea of Bus Routes being Operated two companies. whatever I can do to stop cuts. Merge the Circle, Hammersmith and City, District and Metropolitan Lines Regarding 13/260 changes, that would only make routes more unreliable due to length. Instead, the 13 & 113 could be split into 3 shorter routes. 13 - Victoria to Golders Green 113 - Finchley Road/Swiss Cottage to Edgware New 82 - North Finchley to Baker Street |
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Post by snowman on May 12, 2018 7:59:06 GMT
A revised service pattern starts on the Jubilee Line a week on Sunday which does exactly what you say - more West Hampstead and North Greenwich terminators. It also means platform 13 at Stratford will be out of use for much of the day as drivers will step back on P14/15. The peak hour service level will operate for longer hours though so that's probably NOT a saving overall. It's about trying to handle crowds across the core of the line. It will, though, be interesting to see how the Stratford flow is handled as trains are very busy most of the day with decent boarding / alighting at Canning Town and West Ham. The DLR is not exactly devoid of passengers either so it's got limited room to absorb displaced JLE pax and it's nowhere near as frequent as the Jubilee Line. The remaining Jubilee Line services between North Greenwich and Stratford should be able to take passengers travelling in the north/south direction, though this is supplemented by both DLR lines out of Stratford. Passengers travelling to central London can use other (possibly more direct) lines from Canning Town, West Ham and Stratford. And of course the Elizbeth Line with relieve all routes in the area to/from Stratford, Canary Wharf and Custom House. If possible, the maximum possible frequency of trains should operate the core West Hampstead to North Greenwich section - as far as signalling will allow, to provide a service similar to that of the Victoria Line. Trains outside of this section do tend to be less busy - a frequency of about every 5 mins will be sufficient on the Stanmore section. Though a modified timetable would be needed when events are on at Wembley, ExCel and Stratford. Its really easy to detrain passengers without delaying following train where there is extra centre platform (Seven Sisters, North Greenwich etc), but not easy on a live line. Having said that in 1930s additional speed control signalling was used on Piccadilly for Green Park short workings in peak hour so with quick platform staff can be done. (And there was no on train PA to request passengers to get ready to disembark then, so much easier to advise passengers now) For those that dont know, in 1930s, the Southbound Piccadilly was then busy between Manor House (with its tram terminus) and Central London, lot less busy in West as District Line still ran to Hounslow and Heathrow was still fields. So pointless sending frequent service further west. In case of West Hampsted its a bit of a pity a terminating bay, Woking style, in the middle couldnt be fitted in, even if cutting into part of island platform was required. |
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Post by VPL630 on May 12, 2018 11:51:47 GMT
Remove all cycle lanes, cycle super highways, cycle priority junctions, remove all speed bumps within the M25, Employ a dedicated task to monitor and sort out the poor traffic light timing, parking issues, repeats traffic issues with monthly meetings with Drivers to help prevent further problems across London, create bus priority strategy and deploy, stop giving tube Drivers pay rises/less weekly hours and more holiday, bomb Walthamstow and start again
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Post by vjaska on May 12, 2018 12:19:57 GMT
Remove all cycle lanes, cycle super highways, cycle priority junctions, remove all speed bumps within the M25, Employ a dedicated task to monitor and sort out the poor traffic light timing, parking issues, repeats traffic issues with monthly meetings with Drivers to help prevent further problems across London, create bus priority strategy and deploy, stop giving tube Drivers pay rises/less weekly hours and more holiday, bomb Walthamstow and start again When can I put a tick next to your name on the ballot paper please lol. I'd also add remove parking spaces from bus lanes (why bother having a bus lane if it's full of parking bays in it) & bomb Peckham as well lol. |
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Post by galwhv69 on May 12, 2018 13:28:30 GMT
Remove all cycle lanes, cycle super highways, cycle priority junctions, remove all speed bumps within the M25, Employ a dedicated task to monitor and sort out the poor traffic light timing, parking issues, repeats traffic issues with monthly meetings with Drivers to help prevent further problems across London, create bus priority strategy and deploy, stop giving tube Drivers pay rises/less weekly hours and more holiday, bomb Walthamstow and start again When can I put a tick next to your name on the ballot paper please lol. I'd also add remove parking spaces from bus lanes (why bother having a bus lane if it's full of parking bays in it) & bomb Peckham as well lol. Bus lanes with parking spaces inside:just say Mitcham Road between Amen Corner & Tooting Station lol It does get annoying when buses have to join into 1 lane just because there is one car Bomb Croxted Road whilst your at it  Rebuild it with a wider road |
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Post by vjaska on May 12, 2018 13:34:23 GMT
When can I put a tick next to your name on the ballot paper please lol. I'd also add remove parking spaces from bus lanes (why bother having a bus lane if it's full of parking bays in it) & bomb Peckham as well lol. Bus lanes with parking spaces inside:just say Mitcham Road between Amen Corner & Tooting Station lol It does get annoying when buses have to join into 1 lane just because there is one car Bomb Croxted Road whilst your at it Rebuild it with a wider road Croxted Road doesn't need to be wider, it just needs parking to be concentrated one side of the road along there, especially on the curve by the railway bridge in Herne Hill - someone at Lambeth needs to really sort that out. Southwark needs to also sort out South Croxted Road with parked cars on both sides - the 3's TA's were nimble & short enough to simply glide in between the gaps but the Enviro 400H's and LT's don't seem able enough to do so. The only reason I suggested Peckham is because it's a hellhole quite frankly - the bus station is actually the only decent thing about the place as interchanging between most routes here is pretty straightforward  |
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Post by snoggle on May 12, 2018 13:53:37 GMT
Remove all cycle lanes, cycle super highways, cycle priority junctions, remove all speed bumps within the M25, Employ a dedicated task to monitor and sort out the poor traffic light timing, parking issues, repeats traffic issues with monthly meetings with Drivers to help prevent further problems across London, create bus priority strategy and deploy, stop giving tube Drivers pay rises/less weekly hours and more holiday, bomb Walthamstow and start again I look forward to getting a nice new house at taxpayer expense when the "Dave Party" bombs Walthamstow.  |
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Post by VPL630 on May 12, 2018 14:05:10 GMT
Remove all cycle lanes, cycle super highways, cycle priority junctions, remove all speed bumps within the M25, Employ a dedicated task to monitor and sort out the poor traffic light timing, parking issues, repeats traffic issues with monthly meetings with Drivers to help prevent further problems across London, create bus priority strategy and deploy, stop giving tube Drivers pay rises/less weekly hours and more holiday, bomb Walthamstow and start again When can I put a tick next to your name on the ballot paper please lol. I'd also add remove parking spaces from bus lanes (why bother having a bus lane if it's full of parking bays in it) & bomb Peckham as well lol. Don’t worry, my dedicated task force will be on a mission to make sure buses keep moving they will be also be looking out for dropped drain covers, poor road surfaces and poor posisitoning of bus stop flags where they are an issue for buses with a long N/S mirror arm, also no 20MPH speed limits in London except outside schools and where safety permits, raise speed limits on various large roads, CCTV enforcement cameras on bus stops that issue fines if anything other than a bus parks in the stop |
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Post by snoggle on May 12, 2018 14:10:28 GMT
13 Cut back to Golders Green still goes to Victoria 139 Extended to North Finchley still goes to Waterloo withdraw the 460 and extended the 260 to North Finchley but cutting it back to North Acton Station, I think mergering the 460 and 260 would make one long route. Postponeing any Tube Line Extensions until 2030 or 2035 Advertise on the TV about news meaning TFL gets paid Reintroduce Cash on Buses alongside the Contactless System. Reintroduce Drink and snack machines most of the money would go to TFL and the rest to the company providing the drinks and snacks. rebrand TFL into London Transport bring back liveries Introduce a new idea of Bus Routes being Operated two companies. whatever I can do to stop cuts. Merge the Circle, Hammersmith and City, District and Metropolitan Lines Can't see the point of your bus route changes. The only thing of merit might be reducing the long overlap between the 260 and 460 in order to give the 460 more of a role. I'm not convinced Willesden to Golders Green warrants dual route provision (ignoring the additional capacity between Cricklewood and G Green on the 226 and 245). The only tube extension in prospect is the Bakerloo Line and that's already very unlikely to happen. There's nothing else to postpone. Too late to stop the Battersea Extension. The Met Line extension is dead. Crossrail 2 is on life support with Chris Grayling wandering round the "hospital ward" with a fatal injection in hand just waiting his moment to kill the scheme. Reintroducing cash payment on buses would cost more than £25m (that's the saving TfL estimated) and that's money TfL do not have. No substantive evidence exists that cash payment would bring in more revenue than it would cost. Drink and snack machines clutter up congested platforms and create litter problems. London is hardly devoid of corner shops that sell those items and there are plenty of similar shops on LU property / stations. All buses already have a livery. Why increase the cost of maintaining bus paintwork with fancy liveries? The cost would just be passed to TfL. Don't understand the use of two companies on a single route. A likely recipe for confusion. The Sub Surface lines are all effectively managed as a single business unit anyway and have been for years. They have a largely common train fleet and will soon have a common signalling and control system. There is no point in merging the actual services as that would cost a small fortune in changing tens of thousands of signs across hundreds of stations and trains. You'd also need to change a wide range of computer systems to reflect different line names / service patterns. More needless expense for no obvious benefit to anyone. |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2018 14:15:36 GMT
Remove all cycle lanes, cycle super highways, cycle priority junctions, remove all speed bumps within the M25, Employ a dedicated task to monitor and sort out the poor traffic light timing, parking issues, repeats traffic issues with monthly meetings with Drivers to help prevent further problems across London, create bus priority strategy and deploy, stop giving tube Drivers pay rises/less weekly hours and more holiday, bomb Walthamstow and start again When can I put a tick next to your name on the ballot paper please lol. I'd also add remove parking spaces from bus lanes (why bother having a bus lane if it's full of parking bays in it) & bomb Peckham as well lol. I’m in favour of certain cycle superhighways, I hired a Boris bike around Kennington and cycled up to Pimlico over Vauxhall Bridge and back again along CS5 and it was a huge laugh I loved it. Ones like that one and CS7 from E&C to Merton is a great idea as it hasn’t replaced any roads as far as I know, but CS2 that the 25 runs along is an awful idea and has just created miles of gridlock. The good idea in that though is that hopefully people will get bored of the congestion and would make them get on a bike Bomb Thamesmead as well while you’re about it lol  |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 12, 2018 14:22:55 GMT
When can I put a tick next to your name on the ballot paper please lol. I'd also add remove parking spaces from bus lanes (why bother having a bus lane if it's full of parking bays in it) & bomb Peckham as well lol. I’m in favour of certain cycle superhighways, I hired a Boris bike around Kennington and cycled up to Pimlico over Vauxhall Bridge and back again along CS5 and it was a huge laugh I loved it. Ones like that one and CS7 from E&C to Merton is a great idea as it hasn’t replaced any roads as far as I know, but CS2 that the 25 runs along is an awful idea and has just created miles of gridlock. The good idea in that though is that hopefully people will get bored of the congestion and would make them get on a bike Bomb Thamesmead as well while you’re about it lol CS2 already looks like it's been bombed, littered with potholes and it clearly hasn't been touched since the last round of works. The works at Stratford are doing no good either, I barely see anyone using it at all and I'm in the area very frequently. Anyone going past CS2 on the bus will probably be put off from cycling rather than be persuaded to start cycling looking at the state of it. In complete contrast the parallel CS3 still looks brand new and is in very good condition, although that could be down to the fact again nobody uses it and I live on the thing. |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2018 14:28:29 GMT
A bus route I would absolutely cut is the 38. It carries a lot of people as it’s an 8-figure route but nearly all of the buses on it just carry air because it’s so overbussed to the point that people are dispersed so much over the route. Also the 73 especially on Sundays I’ve noticed is looking a lot quieter as well. I honestly think TfL have a real bias towards these routes as they seem to be refusing to cut them. Then there are routes like the poor 94 (and inevitably the 31) which are stupidly busy at their former frequencies and now they’ve been cut they’re getting absolutely annihilated. I guess it’s all opinions but TfL seem to be ignoring places where cuts can afford to be made and cutting bits that shouldn’t be! |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2018 14:32:38 GMT
I’m in favour of certain cycle superhighways, I hired a Boris bike around Kennington and cycled up to Pimlico over Vauxhall Bridge and back again along CS5 and it was a huge laugh I loved it. Ones like that one and CS7 from E&C to Merton is a great idea as it hasn’t replaced any roads as far as I know, but CS2 that the 25 runs along is an awful idea and has just created miles of gridlock. The good idea in that though is that hopefully people will get bored of the congestion and would make them get on a bike Bomb Thamesmead as well while you’re about it lol CS2 already looks like it's been bombed, littered with potholes and it clearly hasn't been touched since the last round of works. The works at Stratford are doing no good either, I barely see anyone using it at all and I'm in the area very frequently. Anyone going past CS2 on the bus will probably be put off from cycling rather than be persuaded to start cycling looking at the state of it. In complete contrast the parallel CS3 still looks brand new and is in very good condition, although that could be down to the fact again nobody uses it and I live on the thing. I think a main factor for CS3 not being used very much is that there are no Santander Cycle points along it at all, so anyone who wants to use it who don’t have a bike of their own, can’t use it. |
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