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Post by vjaska on May 12, 2018 14:49:11 GMT
When can I put a tick next to your name on the ballot paper please lol. I'd also add remove parking spaces from bus lanes (why bother having a bus lane if it's full of parking bays in it) & bomb Peckham as well lol. Bomb Thamesmead as well while you’re about it lol  Nope, I'll make sure Thamesmead will listed as Grade 1   - fantastic Brutalist architecture around there, just a shame neither some residents nor the council actually bothered to look after it. |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2018 14:57:51 GMT
Bomb Thamesmead as well while you’re about it lol Nope, I'll make sure Thamesmead will listed as Grade 1 - fantastic Brutalist architecture around there, just a shame neither some residents nor the council actually bothered to look after it. Not sure about this but last time I looked up the word ‘fantastic’ in a dictionary, it came up with “extraordinarily good or attractive”, not “disgustingly unattractive or an eyesore” in fact I’ll go one further, it needs to be nuked rather than bombed |
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Post by galwhv69 on May 12, 2018 14:59:37 GMT
Nope, I'll make sure Thamesmead will listed as Grade 1 - fantastic Brutalist architecture around there, just a shame neither some residents nor the council actually bothered to look after it. Not sure about this but last time I looked up the word ‘fantastic’ in a dictionary, it came up with “extraordinarily good or attractive”, not “disgustingly unattractive or an eyesore” in fact I’ll go one further, it needs to be nuked rather than bombed If only North Korea didn't become peaceful  |
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Post by vjaska on May 12, 2018 15:04:54 GMT
Nope, I'll make sure Thamesmead will listed as Grade 1 - fantastic Brutalist architecture around there, just a shame neither some residents nor the council actually bothered to look after it. Not sure about this but last time I looked up the word ‘fantastic’ in a dictionary, it came up with “extraordinarily good or attractive”, not “disgustingly unattractive or an eyesore” in fact I’ll go one further, it needs to be nuked rather than bombed Disgustingly attractive or an eyesore can be used to describe many of London's more recently built buildings - some of them are horrific looking. I hope they're all built well enough as building companies today like to cut corners when building new developments in order to save money. It's no coincidence that some concrete block of flats have been protected and really, more should be as well - like I say, if councils and some residents had looked after these places, they'd have a much better reputation |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2018 15:12:24 GMT
Not sure about this but last time I looked up the word ‘fantastic’ in a dictionary, it came up with “extraordinarily good or attractive”, not “disgustingly unattractive or an eyesore” in fact I’ll go one further, it needs to be nuked rather than bombed Disgustingly unattractive or an eyesore can be used to describe many of London's more recently built buildings - some of them are horrific looking. I hope they're all built well enough as building companies today like to cut corners when building new developments in order to save money. It's no coincidence that some concrete block of flats have been protected and really, more should be as well - like I say, if councils and some residents had looked after these places, they'd have a much better reputation I agree with you on today’s build quality of new buildings, gone are the days of bricks and cement and hello to flimsy steel structures and some ‘posh’ wood to cover it on the outside.  |
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Post by sid on May 12, 2018 18:53:50 GMT
A bus route I would absolutely cut is the 38. It carries a lot of people as it’s an 8-figure route but nearly all of the buses on it just carry air because it’s so overbussed to the point that people are dispersed so much over the route. Also the 73 especially on Sundays I’ve noticed is looking a lot quieter as well. I honestly think TfL have a real bias towards these routes as they seem to be refusing to cut them. Then there are routes like the poor 94 (and inevitably the 31) which are stupidly busy at their former frequencies and now they’ve been cut they’re getting absolutely annihilated. I guess it’s all opinions but TfL seem to be ignoring places where cuts can afford to be made and cutting bits that shouldn’t be! The 38 has had a few reductions and another one probably is justified. I'm not sure about the 73 though, I'd rather remove the rather pointless 476 route, well at least the Stokey to Euston section. |
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Post by sid on May 12, 2018 19:29:08 GMT
The remaining Jubilee Line services between North Greenwich and Stratford should be able to take passengers travelling in the north/south direction, though this is supplemented by both DLR lines out of Stratford. Passengers travelling to central London can use other (possibly more direct) lines from Canning Town, West Ham and Stratford. And of course the Elizbeth Line with relieve all routes in the area to/from Stratford, Canary Wharf and Custom House. If possible, the maximum possible frequency of trains should operate the core West Hampstead to North Greenwich section - as far as signalling will allow, to provide a service similar to that of the Victoria Line. Trains outside of this section do tend to be less busy - a frequency of about every 5 mins will be sufficient on the Stanmore section. Though a modified timetable would be needed when events are on at Wembley, ExCel and Stratford. Its really easy to detrain passengers without delaying following train where there is extra centre platform (Seven Sisters, North Greenwich etc), but not easy on a live line. Having said that in 1930s additional speed control signalling was used on Piccadilly for Green Park short workings in peak hour so with quick platform staff can be done. (And there was no on train PA to request passengers to get ready to disembark then, so much easier to advise passengers now) For those that dont know, in 1930s, the Southbound Piccadilly was then busy between Manor House (with its tram terminus) and Central London, lot less busy in West as District Line still ran to Hounslow and Heathrow was still fields. So pointless sending frequent service further west. In case of West Hampsted its a bit of a pity a terminating bay, Woking style, in the middle couldnt be fitted in, even if cutting into part of island platform was required. On the subject of Seven Sisters I wonder if there's any chance of a station at Northumberland Park ever being built? It's been suggested before. On the Piccadilly Line a few trains could be turned at Wood Green although it's likely to delay following trains. Arnos Grove, Oakwood and Cockfosters can get quite congested at times. |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2018 21:01:00 GMT
A bus route I would absolutely cut is the 38. It carries a lot of people as it’s an 8-figure route but nearly all of the buses on it just carry air because it’s so overbussed to the point that people are dispersed so much over the route. Also the 73 especially on Sundays I’ve noticed is looking a lot quieter as well. I honestly think TfL have a real bias towards these routes as they seem to be refusing to cut them. Then there are routes like the poor 94 (and inevitably the 31) which are stupidly busy at their former frequencies and now they’ve been cut they’re getting absolutely annihilated. I guess it’s all opinions but TfL seem to be ignoring places where cuts can afford to be made and cutting bits that shouldn’t be! The 38 has had a few reductions and another one probably is justified. I'm not sure about the 73 though, I'd rather remove the rather pointless 476 route, well at least the Stokey to Euston section. I like the 476, it’s a nice route and it’s a busy route too, carrying nearly 6-mill last year. The 73 wouldn’t be able to cope if all those people had to move to it, contrary to most people if I’m up that way I’ll bypass the 73 and get the 476 so I don’t have to ride those Lousy Things 😉 I do think it could be modified though just so it’s not just a 73 assistant |
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Post by sid on May 12, 2018 21:13:11 GMT
The 38 has had a few reductions and another one probably is justified. I'm not sure about the 73 though, I'd rather remove the rather pointless 476 route, well at least the Stokey to Euston section. I like the 476, it’s a nice route and it’s a busy route too, carrying nearly 6-mill last year. The 73 wouldn’t be able to cope if all those people had to move to it, contrary to most people if I’m up that way I’ll bypass the 73 and get the 476 so I don’t have to ride those Lousy Things 😉 I do think it could be modified though just so it’s not just a 73 assistant The 73 could be increased slightly if necessary but I just don't see what purpose the 476 serves south of Stoke Newington. Most of those 6m journeys must on the Northumberland Park section. |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2018 21:27:54 GMT
I like the 476, it’s a nice route and it’s a busy route too, carrying nearly 6-mill last year. The 73 wouldn’t be able to cope if all those people had to move to it, contrary to most people if I’m up that way I’ll bypass the 73 and get the 476 so I don’t have to ride those Lousy Things 😉 I do think it could be modified though just so it’s not just a 73 assistant The 73 could be increased slightly if necessary but I just don't see what purpose the 476 serves south of Stoke Newington. Most of those 6m journeys must on the Northumberland Park section. Well I was on the 476 from Newington Green a couple of weeks ago going to Euston, and one 476 going the other way had a standing load so it definitely gets used. But you’re right though, if the 476 was removed completely no bus stops would be lost. Apart from a few stops in the middle which it only shares with the 73 and a couple with the 341, all its other bus stops has lots and lots of routes serving it. With the hopper fare in place there isn’t really a journey that you can make on the 476 anymore that can’t be made with a combination of 2 other routes; before the hopper came along it was probably quite important. Considering it just had its contract renewed last year the route clearly isn’t going anywhere soon. |
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Post by busaholic on May 12, 2018 21:36:11 GMT
Bus lanes with parking spaces inside:just say Mitcham Road between Amen Corner & Tooting Station lol It does get annoying when buses have to join into 1 lane just because there is one car Bomb Croxted Road whilst your at it Rebuild it with a wider road Croxted Road doesn't need to be wider, it just needs parking to be concentrated one side of the road along there, especially on the curve by the railway bridge in Herne Hill - someone at Lambeth needs to really sort that out. Southwark needs to also sort out South Croxted Road with parked cars on both sides - the 3's TA's were nimble & short enough to simply glide in between the gaps but the Enviro 400H's and LT's don't seem able enough to do so. The only reason I suggested Peckham is because it's a hellhole quite frankly - the bus station is actually the only decent thing about the place as interchanging between most routes here is pretty straightforward Croxted Road was the place I came to stay at in London regularly for over twenty years, up to seven years ago. Initially, at my sister's place on the Southwark side, where she lived over the children's nursery she owned and ran with her husband: later, after his tragic death, she moved to a converted flat in a house almost opposite, on the Lambeth side. There's the nub of the problem - two different local authorities unwilling to get together and see what can be done about the traffic/parking problems. I've had a car wrecked outside her house at night by a drunk driver, and another with a huge gouge down the side that I discovered on the morning of my brother-in-law's funeral. The one that didn't happen that would have knocked those into a cocked hat was the one where I was, luckily, only doing about 10 mph as I came down the road looking for a parking space and, even more luckily, started to pull into one without reversing when a motorcycle came along the other way, on the wrong side of the road, round the slight bend, at about 60 mph and touched my driver's wing mirror. My passenger never even saw any of it, it was so fast, but I knew that could so easily have been a fatality for the motorcyclist and, quite possibly, a through the windscreen job. There was not even a central white line for guidance in the middle of the road. The last time I visited the road, my sister having moved, I parked on it quite near to West Dulwich Station and wondered why the South Circular was at a standstill one way, with no traffic coming the other way, and found out another cyclist had been killed by a lorry yards from West Dulwich Stn, I resolved there and then never to park there again lest my own good luck should finally run out there. |
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Post by vjaska on May 12, 2018 22:52:24 GMT
The 73 could be increased slightly if necessary but I just don't see what purpose the 476 serves south of Stoke Newington. Most of those 6m journeys must on the Northumberland Park section. Well I was on the 476 from Newington Green a couple of weeks ago going to Euston, and one 476 going the other way had a standing load so it definitely gets used. But you’re right though, if the 476 was removed completely no bus stops would be lost. Apart from a few stops in the middle which it only shares with the 73 and a couple with the 341, all its other bus stops has lots and lots of routes serving it. With the hopper fare in place there isn’t really a journey that you can make on the 476 anymore that can’t be made with a combination of 2 other routes; before the hopper came along it was probably quite important. Considering it just had its contract renewed last year the route clearly isn’t going anywhere soon. The 476 was introduced to replace the withdrawn section of the 76 which ran to Northumberland Park but also, it has the added benefit of relieving the busy 73 & 341 routes - removing it would add unnecessary pressure to those two routes. And before I got moaned at by a particular person about supposedly not suggesting any cuts (even though I've done so in my own area either in this thread or an entirely different one in the past) or rubbishing people's ideas, to turn the clock back to the 1970's by removing so called 'underused' routes or extending them for childhoods sake, is hardly relevant as me knocking back every cut going |
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Post by sid on May 13, 2018 5:01:22 GMT
Well I was on the 476 from Newington Green a couple of weeks ago going to Euston, and one 476 going the other way had a standing load so it definitely gets used. But you’re right though, if the 476 was removed completely no bus stops would be lost. Apart from a few stops in the middle which it only shares with the 73 and a couple with the 341, all its other bus stops has lots and lots of routes serving it. With the hopper fare in place there isn’t really a journey that you can make on the 476 anymore that can’t be made with a combination of 2 other routes; before the hopper came along it was probably quite important. Considering it just had its contract renewed last year the route clearly isn’t going anywhere soon. The 476 was introduced to replace the withdrawn section of the 76 which ran to Northumberland Park but also, it has the added benefit of relieving the busy 73 & 341 routes - removing it would add unnecessary pressure to those two routes. And before I got moaned at by a particular person about supposedly not suggesting any cuts (even though I've done so in my own area either in this thread or an entirely different one in the past) or rubbishing people's ideas, to turn the clock back to the 1970's by removing so called 'underused' routes or extending them for childhoods sake, is hardly relevant as me knocking back every cut going As this is obviously another little dig at me I'll just point out that the 476 obviously fulfills a useful purpose to Northumberland Park, I just question what purpose it serves south of Stoke Newington and I seem to recall a resident 73 driver on here saying much the same thing. Nothing I've suggested has any relevance to the 1970's, it's just about making the best use of resources which is what this thread is about! |
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Post by ADH45258 on May 13, 2018 6:39:19 GMT
The 476 was introduced to replace the withdrawn section of the 76 which ran to Northumberland Park but also, it has the added benefit of relieving the busy 73 & 341 routes - removing it would add unnecessary pressure to those two routes. And before I got moaned at by a particular person about supposedly not suggesting any cuts (even though I've done so in my own area either in this thread or an entirely different one in the past) or rubbishing people's ideas, to turn the clock back to the 1970's by removing so called 'underused' routes or extending them for childhoods sake, is hardly relevant as me knocking back every cut going As this is obviously another little dig at me I'll just point out that the 476 obviously fulfills a useful purpose to Northumberland Park, I just question what purpose it serves south of Stoke Newington and I seem to recall a resident 73 driver on here saying much the same thing. Nothing I've suggested has any relevance to the 1970's, it's just about making the best use of resources which is what this thread is about! 73 Oxford Street - Stoke Newington, with increased frequency. 341 Cut back from Angel Road, Waterloo - Tottenham 476 Newington Green - Angel Road |
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Post by sid on May 13, 2018 9:53:40 GMT
A bus route I would absolutely cut is the 38. It carries a lot of people as it’s an 8-figure route but nearly all of the buses on it just carry air because it’s so overbussed to the point that people are dispersed so much over the route. Also the 73 especially on Sundays I’ve noticed is looking a lot quieter as well. I honestly think TfL have a real bias towards these routes as they seem to be refusing to cut them. Then there are routes like the poor 94 (and inevitably the 31) which are stupidly busy at their former frequencies and now they’ve been cut they’re getting absolutely annihilated. I guess it’s all opinions but TfL seem to be ignoring places where cuts can afford to be made and cutting bits that shouldn’t be! Whilst the 31 is very busy at the Camden Town end, where it is pretty much on it's own, the Westbourne Park/ Notting Hill section is over bussed and TfL really need to come up with a better solution. As for the 94, the thinking seems to be that when Crossrail opens it will free up capacity on the Central Line. |
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- fantastic Brutalist architecture around there, just a shame neither some residents nor the council actually bothered to look after it.
