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Post by 6HP502C on Jul 12, 2018 20:29:36 GMT
So there is a sprawling bus network in London with hundreds of routes and thousands of bus stops. Some anomalies do exist and there's always a history there, a specific reason how things that seem to defy what is perceived as precedent came to be. So I'm starting this thread for you all too post oddities you've spotted and maybe someone can make an educated guess as to why it is. I'll kick off with a couple I've observed when out and about;
Route 367 - why does it serve East Croydon Interchange when other routes going towards Cherry Orchard Road bypass it?
A. Until 2005, the 367 used to parallel the 119 and 194 through Sandilands as far as Shirley Library, hence the common stop at East Croydon. When the erstwhile 494 was withdrawn, the 367 was rerouted to serve Addiscome and Shirley Oaks. However the decision was taken to retain its place at East Croydon Interchange.
Route 250 - why does it serve East Croydon station at night when it doesn't during the day?
A. To improve interchange opportunities at night.
Any answers on a postcard - post on the thread!
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 12, 2018 20:32:19 GMT
6HP502C where do we send the postcards to ?😉
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Post by 15002 on Jul 12, 2018 20:32:25 GMT
Why doesn’t the 103 serve Rainham Tesco whereas all the other buses get to?
I’m assuming it’s due to the extra congestion that it will lead to having the 103 serving Rainham Tesco, especially peak hours.
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 12, 2018 20:33:49 GMT
Why is Vectis Road a text to speech announcement when all other iBus stops are done by Emma Hignett?
My Guess:TFL forgot about it or they don't "have enough money for it"
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 12, 2018 20:53:22 GMT
I’ve always wondered why ‘122’ on new fonted blinds have the full size whereas any other 3 digit number (excluding 3 digit numbers containing two 1’s) has the slightly condensed arrangement. Eg 122 is full sized but 133 isn’t, but isn’t the 2 just as wide a number as the 3 on the newest typeface? Always been an OCD bugbear of mine.
EDIT: especially annoying considering ‘212’ has a condensed font on TT’s newest blinds, ie the same numbers just in a different order.
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 12, 2018 21:00:19 GMT
Why do Croydons WHV's have a new front blind but an old side one?
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Post by cl54 on Jul 12, 2018 21:10:51 GMT
I’ve always wondered why ‘122’ on new fonted blinds have the full size whereas any other 3 digit number (excluding 3 digit numbers containing two 1’s) has the slightly condensed arrangement. Eg 122 is full sized but 133 isn’t, but isn’t the 2 just as wide a number as the 3 on the newest typeface? Always been an OCD bugbear of mine. EDIT: especially annoying considering ‘212’ has a condensed font on TT’s newest blinds, ie the same numbers just in a different order. As far as I'm aware all the numbers are the same height for the routes you list on the new displays created by Doug Rose. It will take some years to get all buses with the latest style. The old blinds created on McKenna's system had many variations. |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 12, 2018 23:54:43 GMT
6HP502C where do we send the postcards to ?😉 Oh come on everyone knows the answer to that.   "Urbanite's Anomalies Room 27 BBC Television Centre Wood Lane London W12 8QT" |
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Post by 6HP502C on Jul 13, 2018 0:29:30 GMT
6HP502C where do we send the postcards to ?😉 That is the million dollar question! |
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Post by RT3062 on Jul 13, 2018 0:38:45 GMT
Or answers on a sealed down envelope !!
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Post by vjaska on Jul 13, 2018 0:48:28 GMT
So there is a sprawling bus network in London with hundreds of routes and thousands of bus stops. Some anomalies do exist and there's always a history there, a specific reason how things that seem to defy what is perceived as precedent came to be. So I'm starting this thread for you all too post oddities you've spotted and maybe someone can make an educated guess as to why it is. I'll kick off with a couple I've observed when out and about; Route 367 - why does it serve East Croydon Interchange when other routes going towards Cherry Orchard Road bypass it? A. Until 2005, the 367 used to parallel the 119 and 194 through Sandilands as far as Shirley Library, hence the common stop at East Croydon. When the erstwhile 494 was withdrawn, the 367 was rerouted to serve Addiscome and Shirley Oaks. However the decision was taken to retain its place at East Croydon Interchange. Route 250 - why does it serve East Croydon station at night when it doesn't during the day? A. To improve interchange opportunities at night. Any answers on a postcard - post on the thread! The 75 used to also serve East Croydon Station at night before it's withdrawal - presumably, it served the station for the same reasons. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 13, 2018 0:52:04 GMT
Why doesn't the 250 stop at the Fairfield Halls bus stop upon leaving the stand like the 75 does? Honestly, I've no answer to this
One that no longer exists as of this year but is again Croydon related - why did the 264 pick up from the Katherine Street stand but the 197 didn't despite terminating in exactly the same stand?
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 13, 2018 5:41:59 GMT
6HP502C where do we send the postcards to ?😉 Oh come on everyone knows the answer to that. "Urbanite's Anomalies Room 27 BBC Television Centre Wood Lane London W12 8QT" Done!*  You can tell that its photoshopped because I used my phone not my pc😉 Please ignore horrible handwriting😉 |
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Post by redexpress on Jul 13, 2018 10:36:51 GMT
Oh come on everyone knows the answer to that. "Urbanite's Anomalies Room 27 BBC Television Centre Wood Lane London W12 8QT" That is the million dollar question!
If Urbanite's Anomalies are buying one of the "apartments" in the old Television Centre you won't be getting any change from a million dollars  |
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Post by busaholic on Jul 13, 2018 17:20:41 GMT
So there is a sprawling bus network in London with hundreds of routes and thousands of bus stops. Some anomalies do exist and there's always a history there, a specific reason how things that seem to defy what is perceived as precedent came to be. So I'm starting this thread for you all too post oddities you've spotted and maybe someone can make an educated guess as to why it is. I'll kick off with a couple I've observed when out and about; Route 367 - why does it serve East Croydon Interchange when other routes going towards Cherry Orchard Road bypass it? A. Until 2005, the 367 used to parallel the 119 and 194 through Sandilands as far as Shirley Library, hence the common stop at East Croydon. When the erstwhile 494 was withdrawn, the 367 was rerouted to serve Addiscome and Shirley Oaks. However the decision was taken to retain its place at East Croydon Interchange. Route 250 - why does it serve East Croydon station at night when it doesn't during the day? A. To improve interchange opportunities at night. Any answers on a postcard - post on the thread! Here's one that's been lurking in the back of my mind a little while, some 50 odd years in fact.  Why did the 121 route from Ponders End terminate at Chingford Station whereas the many other, and far more frequent, routes passing the station went on the short distance to the Royal Forest Hotel, which must have been the acme of pub termini, not only in London but nationwide? It only got extended to the RFH for a short time, strangely enough when it was amongst the first central bus routes to be converted to omo (RF) operation, which presumably required reversing on to the stand! I only travelled on it on a Saturday when it was still RT operated.
The only reason I can think of was , that with a restricted headway, the extra running time might have required an extra bus, which was considered unjustified.
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Why did the 121 route from Ponders End terminate at Chingford Station whereas the many other, and far more frequent, routes passing the station went on the short distance to the Royal Forest Hotel, which must have been the acme of pub termini, not only in London but nationwide? It only got extended to the RFH for a short time, strangely enough when it was amongst the first central bus routes to be converted to omo (RF) operation, which presumably required reversing on to the stand! I only travelled on it on a Saturday when it was still RT operated.