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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 1, 2018 8:37:08 GMT
How about route 371 to be fully double decked? It's receiving DE's from the C1 so can't see that happening but it should warrant them personally - I remember using it regularly during a certain period when it was DPS operated and it was busy back then. Though if the Richmond consultation changes go ahead, the 371 could at least end up with longer SDs. The 110 is allocated 10.9m DLEs which apparently can't be used over Hammersmith Bridge, so these could perhaps be swapped onto the 371 in exchange for 09/10reg DEs. |
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Post by aaron1 on Nov 1, 2018 10:27:30 GMT
Route 232 needs to have decker's but to Brent park
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Post by COBO on Nov 1, 2018 10:39:49 GMT
Route 232 needs to have decker's but to Brent park Why just to Brent Park? I would rather have the route fully double decked rather than partly. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 3, 2018 0:02:26 GMT
72 definitely needs DD. Late evenings out of Hammersmith towards Roehampton are packed. Awaiting Hammersmith Bridge to get sorted.
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Post by John tuthill on Nov 3, 2018 10:51:53 GMT
72 definitely needs DD. Late evenings out of Hammersmith towards Roehampton are packed. Awaiting Hammersmith Bridge to get sorted. "Hammersmith to Roehampton direct? Not a problem squire.!"  (Not my photo) Attachment Deleted |
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Post by thebusguy on Nov 3, 2018 11:46:52 GMT
72 definitely needs DD. Late evenings out of Hammersmith towards Roehampton are packed. Awaiting Hammersmith Bridge to get sorted. London United need to pull their s**t together. They are refusing to listen to the passengers complaints about the Dennis Darts and how cramped the bus is. I think some E400s should be transferred to S so then 72 can actually be run without drivers spamming the ‘Please move down inside the bus’ announcement. |
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Post by paulo on Nov 3, 2018 12:02:43 GMT
72 definitely needs DD. Late evenings out of Hammersmith towards Roehampton are packed. Awaiting Hammersmith Bridge to get sorted. London United need to pull their s**t together. They are refusing to listen to the passengers complaints about the Dennis Darts and how cramped the bus is. I think some E400s should be transferred to S so then 72 can actually be run without drivers spamming the ‘Please move down inside the bus’ announcement. Are you suggesting that LU build a new bridge over the Thames then Or pay for repairs to Hammersmith Bridge? |
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Post by snowman on Nov 3, 2018 12:03:37 GMT
72 definitely needs DD. Late evenings out of Hammersmith towards Roehampton are packed. Awaiting Hammersmith Bridge to get sorted. London United need to pull their s**t together. They are refusing to listen to the passengers complaints about the Dennis Darts and how cramped the bus is. I think some E400s should be transferred to S so then 72 can actually be run without drivers spamming the ‘Please move down inside the bus’ announcement. The 72 contract was actually tendered and won with 20 double deck hybrids on the assumption that Hammersmith Bridge was being strengthened. This hasn’t happened and further restrictions (one small bus max 55 capacity) is all that is permitted as Bridge has deteriorated further. Hammersmith and Fulham Council (who are responsible) have a section on their website about the bridge . If any works go ahead won’t be any buses across the bridge for at least 12 months. www.lbhf.gov.uk/hot-topics/hammersmith-bridge-repairsEDIT just checked and Bridge is now signposted at 7.5t m g w (which means any vehicle with a plated weight over 7500kg, regardless of load carried), no longer appears to be any bus exemption signs (see attached photo) so a 8000kg (plated) Bus is no longer permitted (even if empty) www.richmondboroughconservatives.org.uk/news/conservative-councillors-pressing-action-hammersmith-bridge |
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Post by thebusguy on Nov 3, 2018 12:04:31 GMT
London United need to pull their s**t together. They are refusing to listen to the passengers complaints about the Dennis Darts and how cramped the bus is. I think some E400s should be transferred to S so then 72 can actually be run without drivers spamming the ‘Please move down inside the bus’ announcement. Are you suggesting that LU build a new bridge over the Thames then Or pay for repairs to Hammersmith Bridge? I’m suggesting TFL and London United work together to resolve the issue, maybe by diversions, maybe by curtailments, as long as the public are happy with the response, then we are all pleased. |
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Post by VMH2452 on Nov 3, 2018 12:04:41 GMT
72 definitely needs DD. Late evenings out of Hammersmith towards Roehampton are packed. Awaiting Hammersmith Bridge to get sorted. London United need to pull their s**t together. They are refusing to listen to the passengers complaints about the Dennis Darts and how cramped the bus is. I think some E400s should be transferred to S so then 72 can actually be run without drivers spamming the ‘Please move down inside the bus’ announcement. 72 can't use DDs because of Hammersmith Bridge. DDs were ordered for the route but diverted to the 94 because the work on the bridge hadn't been done. |
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 3, 2018 12:09:00 GMT
Are you suggesting that LU build a new bridge over the Thames then Or pay for repairs to Hammersmith Bridge? I’m suggesting TFL and London United work together to resolve the issue, maybe by diversions, maybe by curtailments, as long as the public are happy with the response, then we are all pleased. It is the council as owners of the bridge that need to sort it! |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 3, 2018 12:09:24 GMT
72 definitely needs DD. Late evenings out of Hammersmith towards Roehampton are packed. Awaiting Hammersmith Bridge to get sorted. London United need to pull their s**t together. They are refusing to listen to the passengers complaints about the Dennis Darts and how cramped the bus is. I think some E400s should be transferred to S so then 72 can actually be run without drivers spamming the ‘Please move down inside the bus’ announcement. If you think the DPS are cramped (I don't agree with this myself despite being 6'2"), wait until the DE's replace the DPS and you will certainly have a cramped bus. |
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Post by VMH2452 on Nov 3, 2018 12:13:14 GMT
The only way they can increase capacity is a major frequency increase which I doubt will ever happen due to TfL not having enough money and RATP probably not having enough LEBZ compliant, weight limit compliant SDs. MMCs are too heavy so even if they ordered new vehicles, they would need to displace older vehicles and that would still take time.
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Post by snoggle on Nov 3, 2018 12:59:27 GMT
72 definitely needs DD. Late evenings out of Hammersmith towards Roehampton are packed. Awaiting Hammersmith Bridge to get sorted. London United need to pull their s**t together. They are refusing to listen to the passengers complaints about the Dennis Darts and how cramped the bus is. I think some E400s should be transferred to S so then 72 can actually be run without drivers spamming the ‘Please move down inside the bus’ announcement. Eh? London United have no choice. Double deckers cannot run on the route because of the parlous condition of Hammersmith Bridge. Therefore they are saddled with having to run average sized single deckers that are within the bridge's weight limit. I am sure LU would run as many double deckers as possible if it were legally possible (and TfL allowed it). If nothing else it would be far more efficient to run fewer but higher capacity buses on routes like the 33, 72 and 209. I suspect passengers won't like the loss of frequency that will inevitably follow a conversion to double deckers - you aren't going to get buses every 3-4 mins on routes in the rush hour when DDs can run. The relevant question is why has it taken so long to plan and scope the work and secure funding to renovate and improve Hammersmith Bridge within the constraints of its unique design and heritage status. The answer to that question sits somewhere between City Hall, TfL and Hammersmith and Fulham Council. The bus companies have zero ability to influence when the bridge is finally upgraded. They just have to comply with the restrictions that apply to the bridge. |
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Post by jordzjohn123 on Nov 3, 2018 13:39:07 GMT
London United need to pull their s**t together. They are refusing to listen to the passengers complaints about the Dennis Darts and how cramped the bus is. I think some E400s should be transferred to S so then 72 can actually be run without drivers spamming the ‘Please move down inside the bus’ announcement. 72 can't use DDs because of Hammersmith Bridge. DDs were ordered for the route but diverted to the 94 because the work on the bridge hadn't been done. The VHs for the 72 wasn't diverted to the 94, they were diverted to London Sovereign temporarily for the 13 then was diverted to the 18 and the 94s VHs were ordered to replace the TAs in 2016 |
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