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Post by rif153 on Jan 17, 2020 21:35:53 GMT
For Richmond I think that TFL should merge the 440 and 391 to make better links add more buses so what do you think about this I agree with this, but would require other changes alongside - a Richmond to Wembley route would be too long, particularly along the 440's current routeing. I would instead opt for a revised route 440, between North Acton and Richmond, via the 440 to North Acton, 218 to Acton High Street, 440 through Chiswick Park, then the 391 to Richmond. Could potentially continue beyond North Acton to either Central Middlesex Hospital or Willesden Junction. In West Acton, I would also suggest to reroute more directly along Noel Road, rather than around North Acton playing fields. Then divert the 218 direct via Horn Lane (via the 266), allowing it to convert to DD for better capacity. Then extend from North Acton via the 440 to Wembley Stadium, creating new links from the Wembley area towards Acton and Hammersmith. The increase in capacity as a result of a DD conversion of the 218 may not require the 306 anymore alongside towards Acton Vale. I would instead reroute the 306 along Chiswick High Road, partially replacing the 391 along this section. Then extend the 306 through Chiswick Business Park, then Bollo Lane, Acton Town Station, Gunnersbury Lane, Gunnersbury Avenue, Ealing Common and Uxbridge Road to terminate at Ealing Broadway. This would create new links from Ealing towards Chiswick and Hammersmith, as well as providing the previously proposed E10 extension to Chiswick Park. Stand space would be available at Ealing from the E10's extension to Osterley. It seems we have very similar ideas, great minds think alike!
My idea is akin to your's I would swap the 218 and 440 between North Acton and Acton to ensure there is sufficient capacity and a suitable frequency on both routes - a route serving West Acton and Askew Road at the same frequency is crazy. I advocate sending the 218 up to Wembley as this links Wembley to Hammersmith. Then withdraw the 440 between Wembley and Central Middlesex Hospital. I would merge the 440 with the 391 at the southern end creating a Central Middlesex Hospital-Richmond route. I hadn't countenanced the idea of sending the 306 to Ealing Broadway as my idea was just to send the route to Turnham Green Church given bus capacity isn't great on Chiswick High Road right now. The Ealing Broadway link is a nice idea and I like it, but the North Circular loves to snarl up so I'm not sure sending a bus route up there is a good idea and your form of the 306 does parallel the District Line. Of course there are the arguments about accessibility and connectivity, but I can't see a Ealing-Chiswick bus route being that popular sadly, as much as I love the idea.
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Post by george on Jan 17, 2020 22:28:03 GMT
So we think the consultation has disappeared because a change is coming not the other way round? I just can't see any of those chances happening at the moment. Depending on what news comes out of the next stage of works (Hammersmith Bridge) I have got some predictions but until anything if finalised I won't say anything.
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Post by DE20106 on Jan 17, 2020 22:40:42 GMT
So we think the consultation has disappeared because a change is coming not the other way round? I just can't see any of those chances happening at the moment. Depending on what news comes out of the next stage of works (Hammersmith Bridge) I have got some predictions but until anything if finalised I won't say anything. I agree with you, when I saw the consultation was removed I thought it would be because they’re ditching it all for now. Not worth all the major changes considering how much change there already has been and there will inevitably be major changes again with the bridge is finally back to full health😁 |
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Post by george on Jan 20, 2020 22:11:48 GMT
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Post by snowman on Jan 22, 2020 15:29:33 GMT
Took some time to look at the new December information There is a new additional Block E where the bus stands are currently located New Bus stands plan at end of this document The very last page has the temporary bus layover plans (presumably interim during phased construction) the page before shows the swept path to/from the 4 new stands and location of new stands It appears a new exit from stands joins Manor Road, almost alongside the bus stop shelter (which is clearly shown as grey rectangle), quite how buses can serve this stop is beyond me as it will be on a corner (and the road is about a metre higher as road goes uphill to cross the rail bridge) Section 3.6.1 refers to the Bus layover area for routes for routes 493 and R70 There are also going to be driver facilities One less stand than current 5 stands (which need to be reversed into) With the new bus exit making the current bus stop (SC) unusable, unclear if the bus stop in Manor Road will be removed or relocated. I assume stop SU (at exit from 371 stand across road is unaffected) |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 22, 2020 21:57:21 GMT
So it's basically saying that there will be less stand space at Manor Circus.
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Post by snowman on Jun 9, 2020 5:34:49 GMT
So we think the consultation has disappeared because a change is coming not the other way round? I just can't see any of those chances happening at the moment. Depending on what news comes out of the next stage of works (Hammersmith Bridge) I have got some predictions but until anything if finalised I won't say anything. I agree with you, when I saw the consultation was removed I thought it would be because they’re ditching it all for now. Not worth all the major changes considering how much change there already has been and there will inevitably be major changes again with the bridge is finally back to full health😁 Something odd is going on, part of this consultation is now back on TfL website consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/bus-changes-richmond/user_uploads/proposed-routes-110-419-h22-twickenham.pdf |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 9, 2020 7:27:58 GMT
Well the 391 has now still not been announced after many tender results so idea of the 110 and 391 merging could be happening.
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Post by george on Jun 18, 2020 11:16:59 GMT
From email.
110 to operate Between Hounslow bus station and hammersmith will run via 391 routing.
493 cut back to the bus station
H22 extended to West Middlesex Hospital
H37 reduced
490 two extra journeys in each peak.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 18, 2020 11:18:59 GMT
From email. 110 to operate Between Hounslow bus station and hammersmith will run via 391 routing. 493 cut back to the bus station H22 extended to West Middlesex Hospital H37 reduced 490 two extra journeys in each peak. Is there a date for when this will happen? |
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Post by george on Jun 18, 2020 11:20:14 GMT
From email. 110 to operate Between Hounslow bus station and hammersmith will run via 391 routing. 493 cut back to the bus station H22 extended to West Middlesex Hospital H37 reduced 490 two extra journeys in each peak. Is there a date for when this will happen? No exact date but around December time. |
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 18, 2020 11:21:30 GMT
Is there a date for when this will happen? No exact date but around December time. Thanks. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 18, 2020 11:26:26 GMT
From email. 110 to operate Between Hounslow bus station and hammersmith will run via 391 routing. 493 cut back to the bus station H22 extended to West Middlesex Hospital H37 reduced 490 two extra journeys in each peak. Is there a date for when this will happen? Consultation report says Dec 2020 consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/bus-changes-richmond/consult_view/ |
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Post by george on Jun 18, 2020 11:44:26 GMT
I guess this means V has lost yet another route. Of course 110 could be operated from there but I doubt it.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 18, 2020 11:47:15 GMT
From email. 110 to operate Between Hounslow bus station and hammersmith will run via 391 routing. 493 cut back to the bus station H22 extended to West Middlesex Hospital H37 reduced 490 two extra journeys in each peak. I can't believe they're still reducing the busy H37, very poor move. |
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