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Post by londonboy71 on Jun 19, 2019 9:28:11 GMT
How about this:
Ealing Broadway South Ealing Brentford Gunnersbury Chiswick Turnham Green Goldhawk Road Shepherd Bush Wood Lane Harlesden Central Middlesex Hospital
Just an idea. New links to Hospital and relief for 65
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Post by busman on Jun 19, 2019 10:09:31 GMT
How about this: Ealing Broadway South Ealing Brentford Gunnersbury Chiswick Turnham Green Goldhawk Road Shepherd Bush Wood Lane Harlesden Central Middlesex Hospital Just an idea. New links to Hospital and relief for 65 Duplicates too many routes without providing any new connections. Aside from the assistance to the 65, the 237 covers Brentford to Shepherds Bush. The 220, 228, 260, 272 and 440 have many of the links on your new route covered. |
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Post by rif153 on Jun 19, 2019 15:59:39 GMT
I think the best way to support the 65 would be to create a new route linking Ealing to South of the river. I think either a 235 extension or an Ealing-Twickenham link would be good ways to go about this
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Post by COBO on Jun 19, 2019 16:36:23 GMT
I think the best way to support the 65 would be to create a new route linking Ealing to South of the river. I think either a 235 extension or an Ealing-Twickenham link would be good ways to go about this Why would extending the 235 be a good way? How would you fit the 235 or the new route at Ealing? |
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Post by rif153 on Jun 19, 2019 16:52:53 GMT
I think the best way to support the 65 would be to create a new route linking Ealing to South of the river. I think either a 235 extension or an Ealing-Twickenham link would be good ways to go about this Why would extending the 235 be a good way? How would you fit the 235 or the new route at Ealing? Whilst extending the 235 isn't without its flaws, it would create a more direct Hounslow-Ealing link as well as creating more new links such as Feltham-Ealing. If the 112 via Madeley Road ever happens then the 112 can stand on Haven Green but if not then stand space does become an issue to which I have no solution as I can't think of anywhere at Ealing Broadway where adequate stand space could be facilitated |
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Post by COBO on Jun 19, 2019 17:12:47 GMT
Why would extending the 235 be a good way? How would you fit the 235 or the new route at Ealing? Whilst extending the 235 isn't without its flaws, it would create a more direct Hounslow-Ealing link as well as creating more new links such as Feltham-Ealing. If the 112 via Madeley Road ever happens then the 112 can stand on Haven Green but if not then stand space does become an issue to which I have no solution as I can't think of anywhere at Ealing Broadway where adequate stand space could be facilitated But the E8 already provide Ealing with a direct link with Hounslow. The 112 already stands on Haven Green. What happens if the 235 extention to Ealing becomes very popular how would the 235 couldn't cope with the loadings itself? I guess we can use the 235 as tester and if it goes well and it becomes very popular then we can remove it from Ealing and create a new route that runs between Feltham and Ealing that uses double deckers. A matter in fact why can't a new route that runs between Ealing and Feltham using double deckers be created instead. To Create stand space at Ealing Broadway you could extend the E9 to Osterley. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 19, 2019 17:29:16 GMT
I think the best way to support the 65 would be to create a new route linking Ealing to South of the river. I think either a 235 extension or an Ealing-Twickenham link would be good ways to go about this Personally, I think the 65 needs extra assistance along its entire routing but there is too much obsession with removing the stands at Manor Circus because then you could extend the 71 to Richmond, Manor Circus via the 65 and introduce a new route for the Ealing to Richmond section alongside the 65. On the other hand, a small restructure could (I stress could a lot) be done instead between the proposed 110 and the existing 33 where the 33 ends up as a Fulwell to Ealing route taking the E10’s stand with deckers with the 110 running over the existing 33 to Hammersmith Bridge. |
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Post by rif153 on Jun 19, 2019 17:52:48 GMT
Whilst extending the 235 isn't without its flaws, it would create a more direct Hounslow-Ealing link as well as creating more new links such as Feltham-Ealing. If the 112 via Madeley Road ever happens then the 112 can stand on Haven Green but if not then stand space does become an issue to which I have no solution as I can't think of anywhere at Ealing Broadway where adequate stand space could be facilitated But the E8 already provide Ealing with a direct link with Hounslow. The 112 already stands on Haven Green. What happens if the 235 extention to Ealing becomes very popular how would the 235 couldn't cope with the loadings itself? I guess we can use the 235 as tester and if it goes well and it becomes very popular then we can remove it from Ealing and create a new route that runs between Feltham and Ealing that uses double deckers. A matter in fact why can't a new route that runs between Ealing and Feltham using double deckers be created instead. To Create stand space at Ealing Broadway you could extend the E9 to Osterley. I did say a more direct link. The E8 is too circuitous as a link between Ealing and Hounslow. The 112 stands on the East Side of Haven Green but if it is sent via Madeley Road it can stand in the centre of Haven Green along with other routes such as the 226 and E1. I like you idea of creating a new Ealing-Feltham route which uses double deckers, that's far more sensible than making the 235 even longer. |
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Post by COBO on Jun 19, 2019 18:49:05 GMT
But the E8 already provide Ealing with a direct link with Hounslow. The 112 already stands on Haven Green. What happens if the 235 extention to Ealing becomes very popular how would the 235 couldn't cope with the loadings itself? I guess we can use the 235 as tester and if it goes well and it becomes very popular then we can remove it from Ealing and create a new route that runs between Feltham and Ealing that uses double deckers. A matter in fact why can't a new route that runs between Ealing and Feltham using double deckers be created instead. To Create stand space at Ealing Broadway you could extend the E9 to Osterley. I did say a more direct link. The E8 is too circuitous as a link between Ealing and Hounslow. The 112 stands on the East Side of Haven Green but if it is sent via Madeley Road it can stand in the centre of Haven Green along with other routes such as the 226 and E1. I like you idea of creating a new Ealing-Feltham route which uses double deckers, that's far more sensible than making the 235 even longer. How is E8 to Hounslow too circuitous? But even so the E8 to Hounslow is direct. Is there even enough stand space to move the 112 to centre of Haven Green with the 226 and E1? |
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Post by rif153 on Jun 19, 2019 19:33:19 GMT
I did say a more direct link. The E8 is too circuitous as a link between Ealing and Hounslow. The 112 stands on the East Side of Haven Green but if it is sent via Madeley Road it can stand in the centre of Haven Green along with other routes such as the 226 and E1. I like you idea of creating a new Ealing-Feltham route which uses double deckers, that's far more sensible than making the 235 even longer. How is E8 to Hounslow too circuitous? But even so the E8 to Hounslow is direct. Is there even enough stand space to move the 112 to centre of Haven Green with the 226 and E1? The E8 is a useful route and is a well used one. If you were to drive between Ealing and Hounslow using only B roads, would you take the E8 routeing, I think not. The E8 does provide a direct link between Ealing and Hounslow but a faster way to get between the two would be to go down South Ealing Road and then turn on to London Road at Brentford |
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Post by COBO on Jun 19, 2019 19:59:36 GMT
How is E8 to Hounslow too circuitous? But even so the E8 to Hounslow is direct. Is there even enough stand space to move the 112 to centre of Haven Green with the 226 and E1? The E8 is a useful route and is a well used one. If you were to drive between Ealing and Hounslow using only B roads, would you take the E8 routeing, I think not. The E8 does provide a direct link between Ealing and Hounslow but a faster way to get between the two would be to go down South Ealing Road and then turn on to London Road at Brentford I’ll take either because they are both direct. |
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Post by rif153 on Jun 19, 2019 20:02:57 GMT
The E8 is a useful route and is a well used one. If you were to drive between Ealing and Hounslow using only B roads, would you take the E8 routeing, I think not. The E8 does provide a direct link between Ealing and Hounslow but a faster way to get between the two would be to go down South Ealing Road and then turn on to London Road at Brentford They are both equally direct. I would argue otherwise as the traffic on the Uxbridge Road is worse than that on South Ealing Road |
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Post by COBO on Jun 19, 2019 20:03:39 GMT
They are both equally direct. I would argue otherwise as the traffic on the Uxbridge Road is worse than that on South Ealing Road And traffic down the 65 is just as bad. |
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Post by londonboy71 on Jun 19, 2019 22:44:07 GMT
They are both equally direct. I would argue otherwise as the traffic on the Uxbridge Road is worse than that on South Ealing Road Or Great West Road Lampton and Kinsley Road |
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Post by busman on Jun 20, 2019 2:10:23 GMT
I think the best way to support the 65 would be to create a new route linking Ealing to South of the river. I think either a 235 extension or an Ealing-Twickenham link would be good ways to go about this Personally, I think the 65 needs extra assistance along its entire routing but there is too much obsession with removing the stands at Manor Circus because then you could extend the 71 to Richmond, Manor Circus via the 65 and introduce a new route for the Ealing to Richmond section alongside the 65. On the other hand, a small restructure could (I stress could a lot) be done instead between the proposed 110 and the existing 33 where the 33 ends up as a Fulwell to Ealing route taking the E10’s stand with deckers with the 110 running over the existing 33 to Hammersmith Bridge. The thought of a decker 33 turning up in Ealing certainly appeals to the enthusiast in me! I haven’t ridden or observed the 65 through South Ealing for a long time. Does it really need that much help at all times of the day? Wouldn’t 2-3 extra buses running between Ealing and Richmond during the day solve the problem? Anyhow, if we’re going to get creative with support for the 65, I would extend the 94 to Ealing Broadway once its lopped back to Marble Arch as part of the Crossrail changes. Buses would run via Chiswick Business Park and Chiswick High Road before joining the 65 from Kew Bridge. Peak frequency reduced to every 8-9 minutes. To make space at Ealing I would extend the E9 to Acton Market Place. This would provide the 207 with some assistance between Acton and Ealing once the 427 has been diverted to Southall Station. |
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