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Post by MoEnviro on Aug 20, 2020 18:22:34 GMT
I think the TFL zip-card free travel being withdrawn will be a apart of this, forcing people to walk now. I’ve also read that any Zip-card user with a family on benefits or disabilities (i think) I saw somewhere will have free travel and someone who travels to a school over 2 miles away. So in a way, anyone who has Free School Dinners will remain with a free Zip card. Most don’t so will have to pay, and some will just walk but teenagers are teenagers and some will just simply barge themselves inside, balance on the engine flap or just come in from the back door. This did remind me of this article I read earlier www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/staggering-numbers-children-each-borough-18791185Seems TfL are still after the government to keep free travel, now citing that the Oyster system will need major changes to allow partial free travel. I suppose we should be pleased if Free travel remains so will the extra buses. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 12:01:35 GMT
I suppose we should be pleased if Free travel remains so will the extra buses. Yeah, so pleased that TfL will probably propose to pass the lost cost onto regular fare paying passenger subsequently affecting those of us who choose to remain childless all to help those that can’t afford their own children. So happy... |
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Post by busman on Aug 21, 2020 12:34:35 GMT
I suppose we should be pleased if Free travel remains so will the extra buses. Yeah, so pleased that TfL will probably propose to pass the lost cost onto regular fare paying passenger subsequently affecting those of us who choose to remain childless all to help those that can’t afford their own children. So happy... How do you feel about Freedom Passes? Or your taxes funding the healthcare of those who make bad lifestyle choices or dare I say it, the healthcare of other people’s children? How do you feel about universal credit? Or any service you pay for when concessions are given to other people? Going back to TfL bus fares, I think £1.50 for unlimited rides in 70 minutes is amazing value - far below true market rates. Even childless adults not yet of pensionable age are receiving a huge subsidy paid for by others that don’t even use TfL buses. If childless adult passengers shouldn’t have to pay to subsidise child passengers, why should non-bus users have to subsidise your fare? Paying an extra 15-20 pence on top of a heavily subsidised £1.50 fare is not what I would describe as hardship. |
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Post by LJ17THF on Aug 21, 2020 15:33:46 GMT
Yeah, so pleased that TfL will probably propose to pass the lost cost onto regular fare paying passenger subsequently affecting those of us who choose to remain childless all to help those that can’t afford their own children. So happy... How do you feel about Freedom Passes? Or your taxes funding the healthcare of those who make bad lifestyle choices or dare I say it, the healthcare of other people’s children? How do you feel about universal credit? Or any service you pay for when concessions are given to other people? Going back to TfL bus fares, I think £1.50 for unlimited rides in 70 minutes is amazing value - far below true market rates. Even childless adults not yet of pensionable age are receiving a huge subsidy paid for by others that don’t even use TfL buses. If childless adult passengers shouldn’t have to pay to subsidise child passengers, why should non-bus users have to subsidise your fare? Paying an extra 15-20 pence on top of a heavily subsidised £1.50 fare is not what I would describe as hardship. I totally agree, a flat fare is great, not to mention for such a cheap price. Take Metrobus in Crawley, for example, a regular single adult fare would be £2.60. The London one, will always be a bargain to me, prices don't go up or down depending on your journey length, and you have a chance to just pay it once and go on as many buses and trams as you can within a long period of time! Also, keep in mind the Zip card isn't totally free, you must pay £15 or £20 for the card initially, and replacements cost money too. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 21, 2020 16:29:30 GMT
Yeah, so pleased that TfL will probably propose to pass the lost cost onto regular fare paying passenger subsequently affecting those of us who choose to remain childless all to help those that can’t afford their own children. So happy... How do you feel about Freedom Passes? Or your taxes funding the healthcare of those who make bad lifestyle choices or dare I say it, the healthcare of other people’s children? How do you feel about universal credit? Or any service you pay for when concessions are given to other people? Going back to TfL bus fares, I think £1.50 for unlimited rides in 70 minutes is amazing value - far below true market rates. Even childless adults not yet of pensionable age are receiving a huge subsidy paid for by others that don’t even use TfL buses. If childless adult passengers shouldn’t have to pay to subsidise child passengers, why should non-bus users have to subsidise your fare? Paying an extra 15-20 pence on top of a heavily subsidised £1.50 fare is not what I would describe as hardship. Indeed, it's still excellent value even with TfL's attempt's to wreck the network. Another good value one is National Express West Midlands where a day network ticket is roughly £4.50 and even includes express routes like the X1 or X7 with no extra cost. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 19:09:21 GMT
My place of work had a successful return to work this week with 300 + employees. A positive sign that peoples confidence is returning that work places are save!
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Post by LJ17THF on Aug 21, 2020 19:11:45 GMT
My place of work had a successful return to work this week with 300 + employees. A positive sign that peoples confidence is returning that work places are save! Congratulations! Glad to see lots of places are beginning to recover from the pandemic. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 19:16:32 GMT
My place of work had a successful return to work this week with 300 + employees. A positive sign that peoples confidence is returning that work places are save! Congratulations! Glad to see lots of places are beginning to recover from the pandemic. Yep I think we will see a even bigger return once furlough ends and schools are back. Seeing lots of reports about how productivity is starting to drop from working from home. I really do hope people start to return to central London so many retail business are struggling and would be a shame if more places are lost.
Lets hope people start to feel more confident on buses soon.
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Post by 700101 on Aug 21, 2020 20:38:17 GMT
GTR are making minor timetable changes from 7th September;
Additional services along Oxted and South Croydon corridor
Additional calls at East Worthing
Chichester, Portsmouth and surrounding stations
Additional service along Tonbridge and Redhill line
Extra carriages on Redhill to London Victoria PM peak
Earlier first train from Epsom Downs, using the ECS move to Sutton at 0639
Earlier first train to from Eastbourne to Hastings and Ashford International
Additional services along Cambridge, Royston, Ely, King’s Lynn and surrounding villages routes
These are to support students travelling to/from School/College/Sixth Form and some commuters
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 20:50:36 GMT
GTR are making minor timetable changes from 7th September; Additional services along Oxted and South Croydon corridor Additional calls at East Worthing Chichester, Portsmouth and surrounding stations Additional service along Tonbridge and Redhill line Extra carriages on Redhill to London Victoria PM peak Earlier first train from Epsom Downs, using the ECS move to Sutton at 0639 Earlier first train to from Eastbourne to Hastings and Ashford International Additional services along Cambridge, Royston, Ely, King’s Lynn and surrounding villages routes These are to support students travelling to/from School/College/Sixth Form and some commuters I’ve noticed the off peak trains are getting busier now with leisure users. Good to see. Let’s hope it continues. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 21, 2020 21:33:01 GMT
Congratulations! Glad to see lots of places are beginning to recover from the pandemic. Yep I think we will see a even bigger return once furlough ends and schools are back. Seeing lots of reports about how productivity is starting to drop from working from home. I really do hope people start to return to central London so many retail business are struggling and would be a shame if more places are lost. Lets hope people start to feel more confident on buses soon.
Fingers crossed those on furlough have a job to go back to because sadly, I can see a bloodbath of job losses in October |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 22, 2020 2:41:27 GMT
Multiple places across London are seeing low traffic neighbourhoods installed and as quickly as they are implemented, so are the petitions and criticisms. All of Lambeth's current active schemes have been criticised by local groups and even one scheme was criticised by the fire bigrade whilst I've signed the petition regarding my local one. I also watched a news report on ITV regarding one particular scheme in Enfield next to the A406 which has simply pushed the problem to surrounding roads as mentioned by locals. Lambeth have wasted £4m on clogging up main roads including both of the southern approaches to Brixton and the eastern approach by reducing the number of roads and thoroughfares cars can take rather than actually reducing the amount of cars on the roads - this £4m could of been better spent elsewhere like finishing off their LED street light programme or resurfacing one or two roads. Until congestion is significantly reduced, there is no hope for buses just as much as there is no hope for those who want cycling to prosper greatly - I've a vision for Brixton that could be great but it cannot happen until car usage plummets significantly.
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 22, 2020 5:30:06 GMT
Multiple places across London are seeing low traffic neighbourhoods installed and as quickly as they are implemented, so are the petitions and criticisms. All of Lambeth's current active schemes have been criticised by local groups and even one scheme was criticised by the fire bigrade whilst I've signed the petition regarding my local one. I also watched a news report on ITV regarding one particular scheme in Enfield next to the A406 which has simply pushed the problem to surrounding roads as mentioned by locals. Lambeth have wasted £4m on clogging up main roads including both of the southern approaches to Brixton and the eastern approach by reducing the number of roads and thoroughfares cars can take rather than actually reducing the amount of cars on the roads - this £4m could of been better spent elsewhere like finishing off their LED street light programme or resurfacing one or two roads. Until congestion is significantly reduced, there is no hope for buses just as much as there is no hope for those who want cycling to prosper greatly - I've a vision for Brixton that could be great but it cannot happen until car usage plummets significantly. Exactly the same in Croydon |
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Post by Green Kitten on Aug 22, 2020 5:55:52 GMT
My place of work had a successful return to work this week with 300 + employees. A positive sign that peoples confidence is returning that work places are save! Glad to hear it ! |
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Post by greenboy on Aug 22, 2020 7:03:55 GMT
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