connor
Driver
Enter your message here...
Posts: 160
|
Post by connor on Aug 22, 2020 7:11:17 GMT
Multiple places across London are seeing low traffic neighbourhoods installed and as quickly as they are implemented, so are the petitions and criticisms. All of Lambeth's current active schemes have been criticised by local groups and even one scheme was criticised by the fire bigrade whilst I've signed the petition regarding my local one. I also watched a news report on ITV regarding one particular scheme in Enfield next to the A406 which has simply pushed the problem to surrounding roads as mentioned by locals. Lambeth have wasted £4m on clogging up main roads including both of the southern approaches to Brixton and the eastern approach by reducing the number of roads and thoroughfares cars can take rather than actually reducing the amount of cars on the roads - this £4m could of been better spent elsewhere like finishing off their LED street light programme or resurfacing one or two roads. Until congestion is significantly reduced, there is no hope for buses just as much as there is no hope for those who want cycling to prosper greatly - I've a vision for Brixton that could be great but it cannot happen until car usage plummets significantly. Exactly the same in Croydon is to come into force In tooting |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 7:11:58 GMT
Seriously the negativity is draining its almost like you don’t want the world to return to normal. Its a pandemic not a nuclear bomb. Ps it would be much easier if you just replied directly to post instead of via other peoples reply to me. But then what else do I expect. |
|
|
|
Post by rif153 on Aug 22, 2020 8:29:23 GMT
Multiple places across London are seeing low traffic neighbourhoods installed and as quickly as they are implemented, so are the petitions and criticisms. All of Lambeth's current active schemes have been criticised by local groups and even one scheme was criticised by the fire bigrade whilst I've signed the petition regarding my local one. I also watched a news report on ITV regarding one particular scheme in Enfield next to the A406 which has simply pushed the problem to surrounding roads as mentioned by locals. Lambeth have wasted £4m on clogging up main roads including both of the southern approaches to Brixton and the eastern approach by reducing the number of roads and thoroughfares cars can take rather than actually reducing the amount of cars on the roads - this £4m could of been better spent elsewhere like finishing off their LED street light programme or resurfacing one or two roads. Until congestion is significantly reduced, there is no hope for buses just as much as there is no hope for those who want cycling to prosper greatly - I've a vision for Brixton that could be great but it cannot happen until car usage plummets significantly. In Ealing we’ve had low traffic neighbourhoods foisted on people on a so called ‘trial’ period but of course once they're in they're in, the implementation is a travesty of democracy. As a cyclist I can understand precisely why there are attempts to encourage cycling/walking and objectively that’s not a bad thing. The problem becomes when low traffic neighbourhoods create a bottleneck in one street where cars can’t pass. In quiet streets I feel it’s an attempt to find a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist, if it were going in somewhere where the roads get very congested then I’d at least see some need. They may be severed by bus routes but Northfields Avenue and South Ealing Road are not main roads, pushing more traffic onto those roads where people live merely worsens air quality there. |
|
|
|
Post by wirewiper on Aug 22, 2020 8:33:19 GMT
The week commencing Sunday 30th August will see widespread timetable changes across the UK, as more services return to normal and operators prepare for the reopening of schools.
It will be interesting to see how operators deal with the latter. Some have already designated journeys that will become "schoolchildren only" (not just in London) and will no longer be available to the general public - it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
|
|
|
|
Post by greenboy on Aug 22, 2020 8:39:44 GMT
The week commencing Sunday 30th August will see widespread timetable changes across the UK, as more services return to normal and operators prepare for the reopening of schools. It will be interesting to see how operators deal with the latter. Some have already designated journeys that will become "schoolchildren only" (not just in London) and will no longer be available to the general public - it will be interesting to see how that plays out. As I understand it on buses that are designated 'schoolchildren only' there is no need for social distancing so they could theoretically carry full loads. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 8:44:36 GMT
The week commencing Sunday 30th August will see widespread timetable changes across the UK, as more services return to normal and operators prepare for the reopening of schools. It will be interesting to see how operators deal with the latter. Some have already designated journeys that will become "schoolchildren only" (not just in London) and will no longer be available to the general public - it will be interesting to see how that plays out. As I understand it on buses that are designated 'schoolchildren only' there is no need for social distancing so they could theoretically carry full loads. And then a few weeks down the line the government realise children are spreading the virus. Lots of leading specialists are now suggesting the virus is spread just as easy in children. Still think we should have sensible social distancing despite most giving up on this. |
|
|
|
Post by richard on Aug 22, 2020 10:34:43 GMT
As I understand it on buses that are designated 'schoolchildren only' there is no need for social distancing so they could theoretically carry full loads. And then a few weeks down the line the government realise children are spreading the virus. Lots of leading specialists are now suggesting the virus is spread just as easy in children. Still think we should have sensible social distancing despite most giving up on this. What do you expect from this poxy government? |
|
|
|
Post by greenboy on Aug 22, 2020 10:48:13 GMT
And then a few weeks down the line the government realise children are spreading the virus. Lots of leading specialists are now suggesting the virus is spread just as easy in children. Still think we should have sensible social distancing despite most giving up on this. What do you expect from this poxy government? So what do you suggest? |
|
|
|
Post by richard on Aug 22, 2020 11:59:31 GMT
What do you expect from this poxy government? So what do you suggest? Doing things properly like with face coverings they should have done it from the start and not halfway through a pandemic. I wouldn't put it past them if they used this crisis as an excuse to cut jobs. |
|
|
|
Post by greenboy on Aug 22, 2020 12:16:25 GMT
Doing things properly like with face coverings they should have done it from the start and not halfway through a pandemic. I wouldn't put it past them if they used this crisis as an excuse to cut jobs. From the start? What when there was a worldwide shortage of PPE? Inevitably a lot of jobs will be lost, nobody needs to look for an excuse. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 12:22:13 GMT
Doing things properly like with face coverings they should have done it from the start and not halfway through a pandemic. I wouldn't put it past them if they used this crisis as an excuse to cut jobs. I honestly don't think a bus full of school children with no social distancing is a good idea. At school pupils are kept in bubbles but this goes out of the window once outside, not good to have 50 + passengers from different schools mixing on a bus. I could be wrong but can't see pupils sticking to the face mask rule when using the 6XX routes but hope to be proven wrong! On a side not its disappointing to see lots more passengers on normal buses not using masks. |
|
|
|
Post by 725DYE on Aug 22, 2020 13:07:32 GMT
Doing things properly like with face coverings they should have done it from the start and not halfway through a pandemic. I wouldn't put it past them if they used this crisis as an excuse to cut jobs. On a side not its disappointing to see lots more passengers on normal buses not using masks. I really think an official government video needs to be released regarding masks and how to wear them (quite unbelievable, but then this is the British public we are talking about). I am forever seeing inconsiderate fools who wear the mask inside out or upside down (people don't seem to understand that the metal strip is to bend it around your nose), or with the mask below your nose (do people not understand what comes out of their noses too???) or just under their chin like some sort of low budget necklace. I also think it needs to be made clear that people wear masks for the safety of others and that wearing a mask doesn't actually protect yourself. If people who go around without masks come to realise that they're actually just affecting others and not themselves, I think this could considerably reduce the numbers of those not wearing them when in public. |
|
|
|
Post by LJ17THF on Aug 22, 2020 13:39:31 GMT
On a side not its disappointing to see lots more passengers on normal buses not using masks. I really think an official government video needs to be released regarding masks and how to wear them (quite unbelievable, but then this is the British public we are talking about). I am forever seeing inconsiderate fools who wear the mask inside out or upside down (people don't seem to understand that the metal strip is to bend it around your nose), or with the mask below your nose (do people not understand what comes out of their noses too???) or just under their chin like some sort of low budget necklace. Exactly, as you breath, germs get on to the mask, and if people pull it down to their neck, then the germs can spread around. Not many people fully understand how masks work and people can make videos that may spread incorrect information on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc. A government video will help lots of people and will get rid of the confusion people have, should they have it. However, I encountered someone who said "not to follow the government's guidelines and to not behave like a sheep for them", not sure if that person will wear a mask or not if a video like that comes out  . |
|
|
|
Post by YY13VKP on Aug 22, 2020 14:35:20 GMT
On a side not its disappointing to see lots more passengers on normal buses not using masks. I really think an official government video needs to be released regarding masks and how to wear them (quite unbelievable, but then this is the British public we are talking about). I am forever seeing inconsiderate fools who wear the mask inside out or upside down (people don't seem to understand that the metal strip is to bend it around your nose), or with the mask below your nose (do people not understand what comes out of their noses too???) or just under their chin like some sort of low budget necklace. I also think it needs to be made clear that people wear masks for the safety of others and that wearing a mask doesn't actually protect yourself. If people who go around without masks come to realise that they're actually just affecting others and not themselves, I think this could considerably reduce the numbers of those not wearing them when in public. Completely agree. I'm surprised that the face mask rule hasn't been drilled into people by now as when I was on the R2 earlier, there was one person who boarded without wearing a face covering throughout the entire journey. I'm surprised the driver let them on without intervention or playing the face covering iBus announcement which I've noticed some drivers do when they see a passenger board without one. However, whilst passing through Kings Cross Station last week to get to work, I have noticed that the NR announcement for passengers to wear a face covering has changed from "You must wear a face covering at all times" to "Please wear a face covering on stations and on public transport". I worry that some people would take this the wrong way and think that wearing a face mask is now optional when this is clearly not the case yet. |
|
|
|
Post by wirewiper on Aug 22, 2020 14:38:40 GMT
I really think an official government video needs to be released regarding masks and how to wear them (quite unbelievable, but then this is the British public we are talking about). I am forever seeing inconsiderate fools who wear the mask inside out or upside down (people don't seem to understand that the metal strip is to bend it around your nose), or with the mask below your nose (do people not understand what comes out of their noses too???) or just under their chin like some sort of low budget necklace. I also think it needs to be made clear that people wear masks for the safety of others and that wearing a mask doesn't actually protect yourself. If people who go around without masks come to realise that they're actually just affecting others and not themselves, I think this could considerably reduce the numbers of those not wearing them when in public. Completely agree. I'm surprised that the face mask rule hasn't been drilled into people by now as when I was on the R2 earlier, there was one person who boarded without wearing a face covering throughout the entire journey. I'm surprised the driver let them on without intervention or playing the face covering iBus announcement which I've noticed some drivers do when they see a passenger board without one. However, whilst passing through Kings Cross Station last week to get to work, I have noticed that the NR announcement for passengers to wear a face covering has changed from "You must wear a face covering at all times" to "Please wear a face covering on stations and on public transport". I worry that some people would take this the wrong way and think that wearing a face mask is now optional when this is clearly not the case yet. Don't forget that some passengers are exempted, that passenger on the R2 might have been and chances are that if the passenger is regular, the driver knows. |
|
.
