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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 12:37:56 GMT
Mentioned on LOTS website it states the extra school routes are going to be V prefix. www.lots.org.uk/ then click news. The prefix will be for internal use only. Still trying to get my head around how this will work with the "every other bus" for school children on normal services. Can see a few annoyed passengers hailing a bus only for it to sail pass the stop!
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Post by MoEnviro on Aug 23, 2020 13:13:05 GMT
The prefix will be for internal use only. Still trying to get my head around how this will work with the "every other bus" for school children on normal services. Can see a few annoyed passengers hailing a bus only for it to sail pass the stop! I think the simplest way to put it, is on some routes, at some times of the day, every other bus will be showing 'School Service' slipboards, however with most things that is just advisory. So if you choose to board a 'School Service' you are accepting there will not be social distancing as up to 60 people can be carried.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 23, 2020 13:20:27 GMT
I really think an official government video needs to be released regarding masks and how to wear them (quite unbelievable, but then this is the British public we are talking about). I am forever seeing inconsiderate fools who wear the mask inside out or upside down (people don't seem to understand that the metal strip is to bend it around your nose), or with the mask below your nose (do people not understand what comes out of their noses too???) or just under their chin like some sort of low budget necklace. I also think it needs to be made clear that people wear masks for the safety of others and that wearing a mask doesn't actually protect yourself. If people who go around without masks come to realise that they're actually just affecting others and not themselves, I think this could considerably reduce the numbers of those not wearing them when in public. Yes an official video about face coverings would be useful, the vast majority of people are complying and it's becoming socially unacceptable not to wear a face covering when required and most staffed railway stations seem to have a supply of them so there really is no excuse. If people really don't want to wear one they should stay off public transport and out of shops. You seem to be forgetting that it's not compulsory to wear one in shops because the shopkeepers union has said all it would do is increase attacks on staff and they are right - my shop doesn't refuse entry and doesn't ask staff to wear them, neither does my local Sainsbury's so I don't know where you get this socially unacceptable part from.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 13:42:18 GMT
Still trying to get my head around how this will work with the "every other bus" for school children on normal services. Can see a few annoyed passengers hailing a bus only for it to sail pass the stop! I think the simplest way to put it, is on some routes, at some times of the day, every other bus will be showing 'School Service' slipboards, however with most things that is just advisory. So if you choose to board a 'School Service' you are accepting there will not be social distancing as up to 60 people can be carried. Lets hope the drivers remove the slip board when on a normal journey unlike the bus full signs.
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Post by M1104 on Aug 23, 2020 17:49:44 GMT
The prefix will be for internal use only. Still trying to get my head around how this will work with the "every other bus" for school children on normal services. Can see a few annoyed passengers hailing a bus only for it to sail pass the stop! Ideally it would be better to simply convert routes like the 152, 163 and 164 to double deckers, regardless of V-prefix or not. The 201, due to a low bridge on Thurlow Park Road, could implement short journey decker workings between Morden and Tulse Hill.
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 23, 2020 17:54:14 GMT
Still trying to get my head around how this will work with the "every other bus" for school children on normal services. Can see a few annoyed passengers hailing a bus only for it to sail pass the stop! Ideally it would be better to simply convert routes like the 152, 163 and 164 to double deckers, regardless of V-prefix or not. The 201, due to a low bridge on Thurlow Park Road, could implement short journey decker workings between Morden and Tulse Hill. Or even divert via Lancaster Avenue
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Post by M1104 on Aug 23, 2020 18:16:44 GMT
Ideally it would be better to simply convert routes like the 152, 163 and 164 to double deckers, regardless of V-prefix or not. The 201, due to a low bridge on Thurlow Park Road, could implement short journey decker workings between Morden and Tulse Hill. Or even divert via Lancaster Avenue I think the danger there is the possibility of a driver forgetting to divert/reroute with the decker, unless all buses are permanently rerouted that way with the whole route then converted.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 21:08:10 GMT
Good luck moving around in September.. The London councils are having great fun putting wooden plant pots in the middle of junctions. Closing roads to all but pedestrians and cyclists. Because everyone will bike to work and school during windy autumn and cold winter. This has now become more than covid. It's being used as an excuse to push through agendas that only the most serious climate campaigners could come up with. The councils aren't updating relevant authorities either. I've been on blue light runs trying to reach a certain location only to find the road blocked by a massive plant pot.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 23, 2020 21:33:11 GMT
Good luck moving around in September.. The London councils are having great fun putting wooden plant pots in the middle of junctions. Closing roads to all but pedestrians and cyclists. Because everyone will bike to work and school during windy autumn and cold winter. This has now become more than covid. It's being used as an excuse to push through agendas that only the most serious climate campaigners could come up with. The councils aren't updating relevant authorities either. I've been on blue light runs trying to reach a certain location only to find the road blocked by a massive plant pot. All part of the low traffic neighbourhoods that many boroughs have implemented - all of Lambeth's ones so far up & running already have complaints from locals & even the Fire brigade ranging from access issues for residents to moving traffic from one side road to another or even clogging up multiple main roads. The only one that seems to have more exceptions to than normal is the one on the northern part of Railton Road which also allows buses & local business deliveries. Car usage must decrease but it's not a particular clever way to start.
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 23, 2020 21:33:27 GMT
Good luck moving around in September.. The London councils are having great fun putting wooden plant pots in the middle of junctions. Closing roads to all but pedestrians and cyclists. Because everyone will bike to work and school during windy autumn and cold winter. This has now become more than covid. It's being used as an excuse to push through agendas that only the most serious climate campaigners could come up with. The councils aren't updating relevant authorities either. I've been on blue light runs trying to reach a certain location only to find the road blocked by a massive plant pot. What they do not understand is the Road Closed notice applies to bikes as well as other vehicles
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 23, 2020 21:38:01 GMT
The prefix will be for internal use only. Still trying to get my head around how this will work with the "every other bus" for school children on normal services. Can see a few annoyed passengers hailing a bus only for it to sail pass the stop! And will the other limited capacity buses be for non school kids only. You can see the scenario, normal service turns up, takes the kids, leaves the adults behind. School bus arrive 1 minute later, larger capacity, but empty as all those at the bus stop can't get on. Can see some very angry commuters in the upcoming week
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 23, 2020 22:25:12 GMT
Could some of the VLA's (the ones in better condition) at Beddington be reinstated for school services? Some still have blinds which would help
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Post by John tuthill on Aug 23, 2020 22:41:54 GMT
Good luck moving around in September.. The London councils are having great fun putting wooden plant pots in the middle of junctions. Closing roads to all but pedestrians and cyclists. Because everyone will bike to work and school during windy autumn and cold winter. This has now become more than covid. It's being used as an excuse to push through agendas that only the most serious climate campaigners could come up with. The councils aren't updating relevant authorities either. I've been on blue light runs trying to reach a certain location only to find the road blocked by a massive plant pot. All part of the low traffic neighbourhoods that many boroughs have implemented - all of Lambeth's ones so far up & running already have complaints from locals & even the Fire brigade ranging from access issues for residents to moving traffic from one side road to another or even clogging up multiple main roads. The only one that seems to have more exceptions to than normal is the one on the northern part of Railton Road which also allows buses & local business deliveries. Car usage must decrease but it's not a particular clever way to start. What do you expect??!! It's the peoples republic of Lambeth.
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Post by connor on Aug 23, 2020 22:50:17 GMT
Could some of the VLA's (the ones in better condition) at Beddington be reinstated for school services? Some still have blinds which would help it’s aliso been mentioned that the bus will need to have IBus installed as well
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Post by vjaska on Aug 23, 2020 23:16:40 GMT
All part of the low traffic neighbourhoods that many boroughs have implemented - all of Lambeth's ones so far up & running already have complaints from locals & even the Fire brigade ranging from access issues for residents to moving traffic from one side road to another or even clogging up multiple main roads. The only one that seems to have more exceptions to than normal is the one on the northern part of Railton Road which also allows buses & local business deliveries. Car usage must decrease but it's not a particular clever way to start. What do you expect??!! It's the peoples republic of Lambeth. TBH, they right though - I've also had to sign a petition because the road down from me got one such scheme and yet, it's far more capable of handling through traffic than my road which is a narrow road, only has two passing points and one side nearly exclusively reserved for parking. All the schemes have done is increase traffic on the main roads surrounding my estate
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