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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 7:21:53 GMT
Exactly! To be blunt I think its being milked by some. What frustrates me is the jobs being lost by those industries and shops that relied on office workers. Most can probably return and practise social distancing etc I think even a few days a week is better than nothing. I think a lot of this problem lies with the employers and not necessarily the employees. Just to use myself and my friends as examples we all work in different office based roles. We are willing to go back to the office, even for a couple of days a week, but our employers are preventing it. I've been told not to expect to be back before October, even though I expressed a desire to be back. I have my own office, seperate from the main pool of employees, its crazy that I have to keep working at home even things have gotten better. Interesting. Do you think they are being risk averse or trying to save money by avoiding the need to redesign the offices? It's amazing just looking at the empty car parks along train stations in Kent. I think public transport is a major turn off. I wonder what the implications are for firms like Go Ahead and Abellio. The government will only keep giving them hand outs for so long to run trains. It does show the power at play here. If employers and employees don't return to work, the peak hour bonanza has come to an end. |
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Post by greenboy on Aug 28, 2020 7:58:19 GMT
I think a lot of this problem lies with the employers and not necessarily the employees. Just to use myself and my friends as examples we all work in different office based roles. We are willing to go back to the office, even for a couple of days a week, but our employers are preventing it. I've been told not to expect to be back before October, even though I expressed a desire to be back. I have my own office, seperate from the main pool of employees, its crazy that I have to keep working at home even things have gotten better. Interesting. Do you think they are being risk averse or trying to save money by avoiding the need to redesign the offices? It's amazing just looking at the empty car parks along train stations in Kent. I think public transport is a major turn off. I wonder what the implications are for firms like Go Ahead and Abellio. The government will only keep giving them hand outs for so long to run trains. It does show the power at play here. If employers and employees don't return to work, the peak hour bonanza has come to an end. Yes I've noticed so many near empty railway station car parks that would have been full before covid and as you say it's using public transport that is putting many people off. From the employers perspective there's all sorts of difficulties in redesigning offices to make them covid safe and of course there is the problem of access to lifts if they are restricted to one person at a time. And it's not only London, someone from Manchester was saying that the office area there is like a ghost town. Inevitably a lot of coffee shops and sandwich bars aren't going to reopen but if people are working from home they're likely to be spending more in their local community. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 8:15:27 GMT
I think a lot of this problem lies with the employers and not necessarily the employees. Just to use myself and my friends as examples we all work in different office based roles. We are willing to go back to the office, even for a couple of days a week, but our employers are preventing it. I've been told not to expect to be back before October, even though I expressed a desire to be back. I have my own office, seperate from the main pool of employees, its crazy that I have to keep working at home even things have gotten better. Interesting. Do you think they are being risk averse or trying to save money by avoiding the need to redesign the offices? It's amazing just looking at the empty car parks along train stations in Kent. I think public transport is a major turn off. I wonder what the implications are for firms like Go Ahead and Abellio. The government will only keep giving them hand outs for so long to run trains. It does show the power at play here. If employers and employees don't return to work, the peak hour bonanza has come to an end. I think it’s a mixture of both, but for the most part they have found a way to reduce costs by not having staff in offices. Ultimately the problem is productivity, if employees remain productive then employers don’t need want them to go back. But like I said I think it’s employers that are creating this long delay to office returns. If employers were willing to let employees return two or three days a week than that would help. But I also think that CBI report was a bit one-sided, city centres will suffer but they didn’t consider the benefits to outer areas, like the cash spent in local shops or time gained from not commuting. My local high street has never been busier with people shopping, visiting coffee bars and restaurants. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 9:29:08 GMT
Interesting. Do you think they are being risk averse or trying to save money by avoiding the need to redesign the offices? It's amazing just looking at the empty car parks along train stations in Kent. I think public transport is a major turn off. I wonder what the implications are for firms like Go Ahead and Abellio. The government will only keep giving them hand outs for so long to run trains. It does show the power at play here. If employers and employees don't return to work, the peak hour bonanza has come to an end. I think it’s a mixture of both, but for the most part they have found a way to reduce costs by not having staff in offices. Ultimately the problem is productivity, if employees remain productive then employers don’t need want them to go back. But like I said I think it’s employers that are creating this long delay to office returns. If employers were willing to let employees return two or three days a week than that would help. But I also think that CBI report was a bit one-sided, city centres will suffer but they didn’t consider the benefits to outer areas, like the cash spent in local shops or time gained from not commuting. My local high street has never been busier with people shopping, visiting coffee bars and restaurants. Exactly, and this is what I’ve noticed, outer areas much busier. However, I went on a trip around the Chilterns this week. Absolutely deserted. This is high income area where I presume many are working from the comfort of their semi and detached homes. The argument that being infected with covid is a major fear, yet being happy to sit in cafes in outer London doesn’t really hold up. Which leads me to make an assumption it is all about not wanting to commute. The commuting experience is awful for many especially in the Winter. And this I think is where the revolution , so to speak, is taking place. Why should people pay outrageous amounts of money to stand on a crowded train every morning and evening. I see an opportunity for coach firms here. Local Pick up , drop offs, cheaper, less people on board. You could even create “bubble” commuting coaches . Get a set number of people signing up for travel on the same trip every morning and evening, and you’ve gone a long way to reducing , the already small, chance of catching covid. And you get people back in offices. |
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Post by greg on Aug 28, 2020 19:23:37 GMT
Is anyone’s borough residents taking action or facing any changes with these widened pavements?
Because I’ve just read that in my local area on the 29th July someone was hit by a car and killed on Euston Road just opposite King’s Cross Station towards Euston due to the widened pavements and that there were not any clear crossings which were closed off for a far distance.
Also not far in Parkway, Camden Town opposite the Odeon, after people gave a lot of complaints and anger and the road rage that happened (fyi: were crazy and sometimes violent) TFL had removed the widened pavement at Parkway.
I think TFL should be removing more of these in certain areas it just isn’t working at all for them.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 28, 2020 21:43:54 GMT
M1104 as your local, you might be able to answer this? I went past Haydons Road Station (or very close as I was on the 200) and they have social distancing barriers on the bridge - is the pavements on the bridge very busy usually as very few people were walking past and none were using the extended sections anyway.
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Post by M1104 on Aug 28, 2020 23:47:06 GMT
M1104 as your local, you might be able to answer this? I went past Haydons Road Station (or very close as I was on the 200) and they have social distancing barriers on the bridge - is the pavements on the bridge very busy usually as very few people were walking past and none were using the extended sections anyway. I actually haven't been on the 200 that way since before the lockdown but nevertheless the only time i've seen it busy there is during the rush hour for the trains, but even then not to such a degree that would warrant widening the pavements. I imagine it was also done in relation to the nearby schools, such as the one along Queen's Road. On a relatively similar situation nearby High Street Collier's Wood now has segregated bike lanes. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 17:03:19 GMT
Was in the Romford/Gidea Park area today and noticed some very busy 174s! Most were well over the current capacity limits.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 1, 2020 8:10:15 GMT
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Post by TB123 on Sept 1, 2020 8:22:43 GMT
Not good at all. But luckily there's nothing to say this is a widespread issue. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 9:55:04 GMT
Noticed two 147s today with only the small A3 window sinagage saying non school bus, both buses were running after each other guessing one was a school working with incorrect display.
Was it not reported the sinagage would be much clearer?
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 1, 2020 21:42:12 GMT
Is anyone’s borough residents taking action or facing any changes with these widened pavements? Because I’ve just read that in my local area on the 29th July someone was hit by a car and killed on Euston Road just opposite King’s Cross Station towards Euston due to the widened pavements and that there were not any clear crossings which were closed off for a far distance. Also not far in Parkway, Camden Town opposite the Odeon, after people gave a lot of complaints and anger and the road rage that happened (fyi: were crazy and sometimes violent) TFL had removed the widened pavement at Parkway. I think TFL should be removing more of these in certain areas it just isn’t working at all for them. Many of them makes no sense, but as usual another tick box exercise without thinking about its implications. |
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Post by richard on Sept 2, 2020 12:27:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 19:13:56 GMT
Positive signs of a return to public transport!
Highest Tube use during morning rush hour since lockdown.
Also mentioned passengers returning to network.
By 10am, there were 315,000 trips on the Tube and 690,000 on buses - up about 11 per cent on the same day in the previous week.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 5, 2020 5:28:21 GMT
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