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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 8, 2020 23:03:58 GMT
Looking like we are getting mass gatherings banned next week, no more than 6 people allowed.
Second lockdown here we come.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 8, 2020 23:31:52 GMT
Looking like we are getting mass gatherings banned next week, no more than 6 people allowed. Second lockdown here we come. Will be interesting to see how TfL will handle bus and tube services for New Year's Eve, depending on the manner of difference events play out this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 23:33:23 GMT
Looking like we are getting mass gatherings banned next week, no more than 6 people allowed. Second lockdown here we come. Personally, I think this approach is a mistake. I’ve already read some really disturbing social media entries by people really distressed. I despair....whilst acknowledging that covid caused devastation for lots of families, the risk overall isn’t big enough to push this country into a situation where people are , quite literally, killing themselves over fear. People in high places are not looking at the bigger picture at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 23:34:53 GMT
Looking like we are getting mass gatherings banned next week, no more than 6 people allowed. Second lockdown here we come. Will be interesting to see how TfL will handle bus and tube services for New Year's Eve, depending on the manner of difference events play out this year. I can’t see there being any celebratory events this NYE, although I’ll be pleased to see the back of 2020. It’s been quite awful. I’ll raise a glass on my own ! |
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Post by M1104 on Sept 8, 2020 23:52:18 GMT
Will be interesting to see how TfL will handle bus and tube services for New Year's Eve, depending on the manner of difference events play out this year. I can’t see there being any celebratory events this NYE, although I’ll be pleased to see the back of 2020. It’s been quite awful. I’ll raise a glass on my own ! My guess is they will at least still have Big Ben televised striking in the new year and despite any lack of events people will try to gather as close they can to witness the chimes. |
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Post by richard on Sept 9, 2020 0:02:29 GMT
Looking like we are getting mass gatherings banned next week, no more than 6 people allowed. Second lockdown here we come. Will be interesting to see how TfL will handle bus and tube services for New Year's Eve, depending on the manner of difference events play out this year. I reckon NYE will still have fireworks at the London eye but with no spectators and no 24/7 service on the underground. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 9, 2020 0:20:38 GMT
Looking like we are getting mass gatherings banned next week, no more than 6 people allowed. Second lockdown here we come. Personally, I think this approach is a mistake. I’ve already read some really disturbing social media entries by people really distressed. I despair....whilst acknowledging that covid caused devastation for lots of families, the risk overall isn’t big enough to push this country into a situation where people are , quite literally, killing themselves over fear. People in high places are not looking at the bigger picture at all. There's two obvious "camps" if you will. 1. The government are fear mongering 2. The government are not taking this as seriously as it should be We've ended up in a situation people would dread to be in, now it's sadly becoming a case of mental health of the population vs physical health of the population. The quick push back to school, back to offices, freedom to travel the world on holiday and overcrowding at restaurants has inevitably now led to a steady increase in cases and actions now need to be taken into consideration to slow this down again. There's a few obvious flaws with the government's decision now. First one being the decision is only coming into force next week, is the virus on a 6 day holiday or something? Really it should be implemented tonight. Second one being schools are exempt? Are teachers and pupils superhumans where they are not going to spread anything? |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 9, 2020 1:34:52 GMT
Personally, I think this approach is a mistake. I’ve already read some really disturbing social media entries by people really distressed. I despair....whilst acknowledging that covid caused devastation for lots of families, the risk overall isn’t big enough to push this country into a situation where people are , quite literally, killing themselves over fear. People in high places are not looking at the bigger picture at all. There's two obvious "camps" if you will. 1. The government are fear mongering 2. The government are not taking this as seriously as it should be We've ended up in a situation people would dread to be in, now it's sadly becoming a case of mental health of the population vs physical health of the population. The quick push back to school, back to offices, freedom to travel the world on holiday and overcrowding at restaurants has inevitably now led to a steady increase in cases and actions now need to be taken into consideration to slow this down again. There's a few obvious flaws with the government's decision now. First one being the decision is only coming into force next week, is the virus on a 6 day holiday or something? Really it should be implemented tonight. Second one being schools are exempt? Are teachers and pupils superhumans where they are not going to spread anything? I'll stick my head out above the parapet to say I've been in Camp 2 practically all along as personally, I feel the government have been utterly woeful since Day 1 through a combination mainly of it's own doing but also helped by austerity wiping out the pandemic planning done by the UK during the 00's when pandemic strategies were devised in the event one happened with stockpiles of PPE and other vital equipment yet these stocks were run down during the austerity years whilst pandemic training became a non important thing to do - in comparison, Tesco were ready because they actually did a pandemic exercise a few years prior to 2020 and which saw them far more prepared than many others were. We acted too slow despite the evidence stacking up suggesting we need to move quickly, and it took a petition signed by over 200 leading experts to get the government to introduce the lockdown and even then, the government had the cheek to tell doctors and nurses that they should stop moaning about low supplies whilst simultaneously hanging out care homes to dry leading to many elderly residents dropping like flies. Then we had the big rush to get back to normality during the summer where they suddenly sped up to a point where basically, many people were flouting the two most important rules of washing hands & social distancing - I have no problem with some sort of return to normality but society must continue to adhere to the measures otherwise that normal will once again vanish and everyone will only have themselves to blame as a result. |
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Post by 725DYE on Sept 9, 2020 13:20:22 GMT
Looking like we are getting mass gatherings banned next week, no more than 6 people allowed. Second lockdown here we come. Just to clarify that this has been the case for a while, but instead it has been made law so that the authorities have greater power to disband large groups or fine those who break the rules. Groups of 6 have been the limit for quite a while now it's not exactly like there's been a severe reduction and that we've taken a huge leap backwards. This of course doesn't apply to education or work circumstances. I was in the pub last night when I first found out and did start fretting a bit, especially as I'm going back to uni in a few weeks but actually nothing is getting worse at all really and we'll have the same freedoms as we did beforehand. |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 9, 2020 14:39:01 GMT
Looking like we are getting mass gatherings banned next week, no more than 6 people allowed. Second lockdown here we come. Just to clarify that this has been the case for a while, but instead it has been made law so that the authorities have greater power to disband large groups or fine those who break the rules. Groups of 6 have been the limit for quite a while now it's not exactly like there's been a severe reduction and that we've taken a huge leap backwards. This of course doesn't apply to education or work circumstances. I was in the pub last night when I first found out and did start fretting a bit, especially as I'm going back to uni in a few weeks but actually nothing is getting worse at all really and we'll have the same freedoms as we did beforehand. Groups of 30 was the previous limit AFAIK until last night hence why many people have began cancelling birthday gatherings with just weddings & funerals exempt alongside things work & education. |
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Post by ronnie on Sept 9, 2020 14:45:55 GMT
There's two obvious "camps" if you will. 1. The government are fear mongering 2. The government are not taking this as seriously as it should be We've ended up in a situation people would dread to be in, now it's sadly becoming a case of mental health of the population vs physical health of the population. The quick push back to school, back to offices, freedom to travel the world on holiday and overcrowding at restaurants has inevitably now led to a steady increase in cases and actions now need to be taken into consideration to slow this down again. There's a few obvious flaws with the government's decision now. First one being the decision is only coming into force next week, is the virus on a 6 day holiday or something? Really it should be implemented tonight. Second one being schools are exempt? Are teachers and pupils superhumans where they are not going to spread anything? I'll stick my head out above the parapet to say I've been in Camp 2 practically all along as personally, I feel the government have been utterly woeful since Day 1 through a combination mainly of it's own doing but also helped by austerity wiping out the pandemic planning done by the UK during the 00's when pandemic strategies were devised in the event one happened with stockpiles of PPE and other vital equipment yet these stocks were run down during the austerity years whilst pandemic training became a non important thing to do - in comparison, Tesco were ready because they actually did a pandemic exercise a few years prior to 2020 and which saw them far more prepared than many others were. We acted too slow despite the evidence stacking up suggesting we need to move quickly, and it took a petition signed by over 200 leading experts to get the government to introduce the lockdown and even then, the government had the cheek to tell doctors and nurses that they should stop moaning about low supplies whilst simultaneously hanging out care homes to dry leading to many elderly residents dropping like flies. Then we had the big rush to get back to normality during the summer where they suddenly sped up to a point where basically, many people were flouting the two most important rules of washing hands & social distancing - I have no problem with some sort of return to normality but society must continue to adhere to the measures otherwise that normal will once again vanish and everyone will only have themselves to blame as a result. Same here. While I may have voted for these guys their response initially was super slow. Anyone with an iota of common sense would have introduced lockdown at least 3 weeks earlier. I was commuting to central London till the day before lockdown was introduced and I was seriously questioning why lockdown wasn’t happening Plus simple and common sense things like temperature checks at the airport for incoming passengers, stricter control etc were introduced in (hold your breath) July - should have been done in Feb March. You still had people returning from China / Italy / other countries with exponential growth in cases at that time and no one bothering to see where they are going... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 16:28:22 GMT
The most frustrating thing is no matter what new restrictions people are still just going to ignore them.
Social media is full of comments already boasting how they will carry on as normal. 2020 has been a hell of a year and selfish people are just dragging this on and on.
Then you have another group of people who say the virus is a hoax, another group who say its just a cold of mild flu.
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Post by 725DYE on Sept 9, 2020 18:01:45 GMT
Just to clarify that this has been the case for a while, but instead it has been made law so that the authorities have greater power to disband large groups or fine those who break the rules. Groups of 6 have been the limit for quite a while now it's not exactly like there's been a severe reduction and that we've taken a huge leap backwards. This of course doesn't apply to education or work circumstances. I was in the pub last night when I first found out and did start fretting a bit, especially as I'm going back to uni in a few weeks but actually nothing is getting worse at all really and we'll have the same freedoms as we did beforehand. Groups of 30 was the previous limit AFAIK until last night hence why many people have began cancelling birthday gatherings with just weddings & funerals exempt alongside things work & education. My apologies. You're absolutely correct, ratified by this afternoon's press conference. Looks like I've been a tad too strict on myself then  |
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Post by LJ17THF on Sept 9, 2020 18:18:18 GMT
The most frustrating thing is no matter what new restrictions people are still just going to ignore them. Social media is full of comments already boasting how they will carry on as normal. 2020 has been a hell of a year and selfish people are just dragging this on and on. Then you have another group of people who say the virus is a hoax, another group who say its just a cold of mild flu. The tweet below (by a YouTuber for those interested) is something that I fully agree with, in all of my classes, they make us sit next to each other as normal and you don't need masks, even if you are outside which is a rather silly idea, I've had my shoulders touched by so many other ones  , not to mention the adults outside the school might be in groups of 6+, how will they monitor who goes in and out? No clue on how this is being handled. |
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Post by TB123 on Sept 9, 2020 18:27:32 GMT
Groups of 30 was the previous limit AFAIK until last night hence why many people have began cancelling birthday gatherings with just weddings & funerals exempt alongside things work & education. My apologies. You're absolutely correct, ratified by this afternoon's press conference. Looks like I've been a tad too strict on myself then I thought it was 6 too and had been sticking to that limit!! Better safe than sorry at the moment though. |
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, not to mention the adults outside the school might be in groups of 6+, how will they monitor who goes in and out? No clue on how this is being handled.