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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 19:05:25 GMT
The most frustrating thing is no matter what new restrictions people are still just going to ignore them. Social media is full of comments already boasting how they will carry on as normal. 2020 has been a hell of a year and selfish people are just dragging this on and on. Then you have another group of people who say the virus is a hoax, another group who say its just a cold of mild flu. The tweet below (by a YouTuber for those interested) is something that I fully agree with, in all of my classes, they make us sit next to each other as normal and you don't need masks, even if you are outside which is a rather silly idea, I've had my shoulders touched by so many other ones  , not to mention the adults outside the school might be in groups of 6+, how will they monitor who goes in and out? No clue on how this is being handled. So you’d rather not get an education or have those children and teenagers that don’t have access to proper equipment to study at home suffer for an even longer period of time? What would you propose instead bearing in mind that most schools don’t have the space to spread kids out, teachers are travelling to classes rather than the other way around. I’m not saying that the government has gotten everything right but right now it is better for life to carry on as normally as possible. Giving kids more time away from the school environment does nothing for them long term and ultimately will damage the youths mental health, social skills and their focus to learn. Especially when it’s been proven that young people are incredibly unlikely to suffer from the virus and any long term potential after affects. |
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Post by LJ17THF on Sept 9, 2020 20:10:08 GMT
The tweet below (by a YouTuber for those interested) is something that I fully agree with, in all of my classes, they make us sit next to each other as normal and you don't need masks, even if you are outside which is a rather silly idea, I've had my shoulders touched by so many other ones , not to mention the adults outside the school might be in groups of 6+, how will they monitor who goes in and out? No clue on how this is being handled. So you’d rather not get an education or have those children and teenagers that don’t have access to proper equipment to study at home suffer for an even longer period of time? What would you propose instead bearing in mind that most schools don’t have the space to spread kids out, teachers are travelling to classes rather than the other way around. I’m not saying that the government has gotten everything right but right now it is better for life to carry on as normally as possible. Giving kids more time away from the school environment does nothing for them long term and ultimately will damage the youths mental health, social skills and their focus to learn. Especially when it’s been proven that young people are incredibly unlikely to suffer from the virus and any long term potential after affects. Fair enough, I just thought it was particularly dangerous for people to sit so close to each other during the day, it could spread cases rather easily, and to add insult to injury, Boris Johnson has said that young people are the ones at fault here (very vaguely, didn't really say much), he said this while putting so many people in school, which isn't a fair judgement when he has so much control over the country. However, I do understand your point, many people have been abused by parents/partners over lockdown and are probably relieved that they could escape those people. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 20:31:02 GMT
So you’d rather not get an education or have those children and teenagers that don’t have access to proper equipment to study at home suffer for an even longer period of time? What would you propose instead bearing in mind that most schools don’t have the space to spread kids out, teachers are travelling to classes rather than the other way around. I’m not saying that the government has gotten everything right but right now it is better for life to carry on as normally as possible. Giving kids more time away from the school environment does nothing for them long term and ultimately will damage the youths mental health, social skills and their focus to learn. Especially when it’s been proven that young people are incredibly unlikely to suffer from the virus and any long term potential after affects. Fair enough, I just thought it was particularly dangerous for people to sit so close to each other during the day, it could spread cases rather easily, and to add insult to injury, Boris Johnson has said that young people are the ones at fault here (very vaguely, didn't really say much), he said this while putting so many people in school, which isn't a fair judgement when he has so much control over the country. However, I do understand your point, many people have been abused by parents/partners over lockdown and are probably relieved that they could escape those people. It is important to remember that the ONS recorded 10 deaths of under 19s from Covid between March and June, that number is tiny compared to over 60s. Frankly you’re more likely to get shot or stabbed on a London street than die from Covid if you’re under 19. Besides, if teenagers can get on buses without masks or hangout in large groups in town centres all hours throughout summer and even now after school then they can d*mn well go to school and if that makes me wrong than I don’t care. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 10, 2020 5:58:11 GMT
Seen it posted elsewhere that Grand Central have decided to abandon their new London Euston to Blackpool service as a result of the economic fallout from the pandemic. A massive shame really, was looking forward to seeing this in action. All the stock that was due to operate the service had been refurbished recently and ready to use.
A thought must be spared to all the staff who are being made redundant by this decision. We can only hope they’re able to find other jobs soon
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Post by LondonNorthern on Sept 10, 2020 20:15:38 GMT
The most frustrating thing is no matter what new restrictions people are still just going to ignore them. Social media is full of comments already boasting how they will carry on as normal. 2020 has been a hell of a year and selfish people are just dragging this on and on. Then you have another group of people who say the virus is a hoax, another group who say its just a cold of mild flu. The tweet below (by a YouTuber for those interested) is something that I fully agree with, in all of my classes, they make us sit next to each other as normal and you don't need masks, even if you are outside which is a rather silly idea, I've had my shoulders touched by so many other ones , not to mention the adults outside the school might be in groups of 6+, how will they monitor who goes in and out? No clue on how this is being handled. Now I'm a very big fan of James Marriott - he is very much a funny bloke and when I have the time I do watch his videos! School is quite well monitored hygiene wise - I don't think it's any issue |
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Post by ronnie on Sept 10, 2020 21:43:25 GMT
Fair enough, I just thought it was particularly dangerous for people to sit so close to each other during the day, it could spread cases rather easily, and to add insult to injury, Boris Johnson has said that young people are the ones at fault here (very vaguely, didn't really say much), he said this while putting so many people in school, which isn't a fair judgement when he has so much control over the country. However, I do understand your point, many people have been abused by parents/partners over lockdown and are probably relieved that they could escape those people. It is important to remember that the ONS recorded 10 deaths of under 19s from Covid between March and June, that number is tiny compared to over 60s. Frankly you’re more likely to get shot or stabbed on a London street than die from Covid if you’re under 19. Besides, if teenagers can get on buses without masks or hangout in large groups in town centres all hours throughout summer and even now after school then they can d*mn well go to school and if that makes me wrong than I don’t care. Stabbing - it’s getting out of hand. There have been 5 incidents of stabbing in the past month or two in a 1-2km radius (including sadly 2 people dead). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 21:46:07 GMT
Fair enough, I just thought it was particularly dangerous for people to sit so close to each other during the day, it could spread cases rather easily, and to add insult to injury, Boris Johnson has said that young people are the ones at fault here (very vaguely, didn't really say much), he said this while putting so many people in school, which isn't a fair judgement when he has so much control over the country. However, I do understand your point, many people have been abused by parents/partners over lockdown and are probably relieved that they could escape those people. It is important to remember that the ONS recorded 10 deaths of under 19s from Covid between March and June, that number is tiny compared to over 60s. Frankly you’re more likely to get shot or stabbed on a London street than die from Covid if you’re under 19. Besides, if teenagers can get on buses without masks or hangout in large groups in town centres all hours throughout summer and even now after school then they can d*mn well go to school and if that makes me wrong than I don’t care. Just because young people are less likely to die doesn't stop them passing the virus onto others who could end up very ill! |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 10, 2020 21:54:11 GMT
It is important to remember that the ONS recorded 10 deaths of under 19s from Covid between March and June, that number is tiny compared to over 60s. Frankly you’re more likely to get shot or stabbed on a London street than die from Covid if you’re under 19. Besides, if teenagers can get on buses without masks or hangout in large groups in town centres all hours throughout summer and even now after school then they can d*mn well go to school and if that makes me wrong than I don’t care. Just because young people are less likely to die doesn't stop them passing the virus onto others who could end up very ill! Precisely, and at the same time we can't forget all the teachers and support staff present as well who are much more susceptible to a dangerous infection. Children while unlikely to get seriously ill can still however can seriously ill in rare circumstances. The chances are low, but every life is one worth saving. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 6:29:15 GMT
Just because young people are less likely to die doesn't stop them passing the virus onto others who could end up very ill! Precisely, and at the same time we can't forget all the teachers and support staff present as well who are much more susceptible to a dangerous infection. Children while unlikely to get seriously ill can still however can seriously ill in rare circumstances. The chances are low, but every life is one worth saving. So what would you propose as an alternative? These teachers take risks everyday working with children who carry illness like influenza which they are far more likely to catch than Covid-19. As for the children it’s better for them to be in school getting an education, developing their social skills and improving their mental health rather than be at home for even longer potentially derailing their education journey even further even with an extremely minimal risk of Covid despite what the MSM would tell you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 8:16:07 GMT
Precisely, and at the same time we can't forget all the teachers and support staff present as well who are much more susceptible to a dangerous infection. Children while unlikely to get seriously ill can still however can seriously ill in rare circumstances. The chances are low, but every life is one worth saving. So what would you propose as an alternative? These teachers take risks everyday working with children who carry illness like influenza which they are far more likely to catch than Covid-19. As for the children it’s better for them to be in school getting an education, developing their social skills and improving their mental health rather than be at home for even longer potentially derailing their education journey even further even with an extremely minimal risk of Covid despite what the MSM would tell you. Just a pitty those older 16 to 20 years old don't educate themselves on the risks of the virus and practice social distancing and wear masks. I tell you this colleges and uni's will see big outbreaks in a few weeks. Some of the things I have seen are shocking and the teaching staff are worried about their health! Stop with all the MSN rubbish please, the virus is deadly, you want to believe otherwise fine but just stop and think 45k people have died this year because of this! We are not even into winter and the normal flu seasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 8:47:32 GMT
So what would you propose as an alternative? These teachers take risks everyday working with children who carry illness like influenza which they are far more likely to catch than Covid-19. As for the children it’s better for them to be in school getting an education, developing their social skills and improving their mental health rather than be at home for even longer potentially derailing their education journey even further even with an extremely minimal risk of Covid despite what the MSM would tell you. Just a pitty those older 16 to 20 years old don't educate themselves on the risks of the virus and practice social distancing and wear masks. I tell you this colleges and uni's will see big outbreaks in a few weeks. Some of the things I have seen are shocking and the teaching staff are worried about their health! Stop with all the MSN rubbish please, the virus is deadly, you want to believe otherwise fine but just stop and think 45k people have died this year because of this! We are not even into winter and the normal flu seasons. I am not denying that Covid can be dangerous but you cannot ignore that MSM would have us think we’re going to instantly die upon leaving the house. If teaching staff are worried perhaps they should educate their students themselves and not rely on the government, after all they can serve as a better influence. As it stands very few people are now in hospital, despite growing case numbers. Your foreshadowing is absurd and does nothing but feed into the scaremongering carried out on a daily basis by the media. |
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 11, 2020 8:58:24 GMT
Just a pitty those older 16 to 20 years old don't educate themselves on the risks of the virus and practice social distancing and wear masks. I tell you this colleges and uni's will see big outbreaks in a few weeks. Some of the things I have seen are shocking and the teaching staff are worried about their health! Stop with all the MSN rubbish please, the virus is deadly, you want to believe otherwise fine but just stop and think 45k people have died this year because of this! We are not even into winter and the normal flu seasons. I am not denying that Covid can be dangerous but you cannot ignore that MSM would have us think we’re going to instantly die upon leaving the house. If teaching staff are worried perhaps they should educate their students themselves and not rely on the government, after all they can serve as a better influence. As it stands very few people are now in hospital, despite growing case numbers. Your foreshadowing is absurd and does nothing but feed into the scaremongering carried out on a daily basis by the media. At the same time I was in hospital 2 weeks ago, and the nurses said no one was in the hospital that had tested positive for COVID (and getting tested is one of the first thing you do), but they have empty wards reserved for COVID. These could be used for patients that need life saving/changing surgery. So yes COVID can kill you, but so can the precautions that are put in place. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 9:07:36 GMT
I am not denying that Covid can be dangerous but you cannot ignore that MSM would have us think we’re going to instantly die upon leaving the house. If teaching staff are worried perhaps they should educate their students themselves and not rely on the government, after all they can serve as a better influence. As it stands very few people are now in hospital, despite growing case numbers. Your foreshadowing is absurd and does nothing but feed into the scaremongering carried out on a daily basis by the media. At the same time I was in hospital 2 weeks ago, and the nurses said no one was in the hospital that had tested positive for COVID (and getting tested is one of the first thing you do), but they have empty wards reserved for COVID. These could be used for patients that need life saving/changing surgery. So yes COVID can kill you, but so can the precautions that are put in place. It is absolutely right for them to be prepared. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again I honestly believe any potential new winter threat will be better managed. Simply because there are now better procedures, better practices and a greater understanding of the needs of the patients with Covid. |
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 11, 2020 9:22:27 GMT
At the same time I was in hospital 2 weeks ago, and the nurses said no one was in the hospital that had tested positive for COVID (and getting tested is one of the first thing you do), but they have empty wards reserved for COVID. These could be used for patients that need life saving/changing surgery. So yes COVID can kill you, but so can the precautions that are put in place. It is absolutely right for them to be prepared. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again I honestly believe any potential new winter threat will be better managed. Simply because there are now better procedures, better practices and a greater understanding of the needs of the patients with Covid. Seems you are happy to have a non-Covid death to save beds for COVID patients. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 9:40:57 GMT
It is absolutely right for them to be prepared. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again I honestly believe any potential new winter threat will be better managed. Simply because there are now better procedures, better practices and a greater understanding of the needs of the patients with Covid. Seems you are happy to have a non-Covid death to save beds for COVID patients. Absolutely not, every life is precious and important but hospitals must be prepared for a potential second round of patients. I do think it would be better though to retain the field hospitals for winter and free main hospitals to restart treatments of other patients. It’s scandalous that so many may now die because treatment was delayed due to Covid and it’s only a matter of time before the situation escalates. |
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, not to mention the adults outside the school might be in groups of 6+, how will they monitor who goes in and out? No clue on how this is being handled.
