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Post by lj61nwc on Jun 20, 2024 21:41:05 GMT
LT246 been converted to mirrorless using the system by Safety Tech Is that happening to all future LTs being refurbished, or is this one being simply tested? It wasn't during refurb, it's standalone install, maybe test for driver feedback
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Post by vjaska on Jun 20, 2024 23:41:49 GMT
LT246 been converted to mirrorless using the system by Safety Tech Saw it on tiktok just now. Somehow I cannot understand why? Are the LTs not being terminated from service? Where on earth have you got the idea from that LT's are being terminated from service - the H98 was just retained with some the other day.
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Post by MMS2001 on Jun 21, 2024 2:19:46 GMT
The large fire behind RM has been under control since about 5pm and the access road was reopened at about 7pm. Obviously yesterday was complete carnage and at times there were routes running with half the buses they should be. Yesterday's fire will likely also have an impact on today too as there are apparently a lot of unfit buses as a result of engineering being evacuated meaning any defects weren't rectified and won't be able to be rectified until the morning when the engineers arrive back to work. It'll be interesting to see what the morning run out looks like.
On a side note 19817 has ended up at RM from NS. It was on the 256 earlier but looking at bus times it came out from NS around 6pm and then done a few split trips before it went back to RM. I'm not sure if it's been sent by NS to help RM and then been sent back to RM in error or if this is a genuine transfer.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 21, 2024 3:23:12 GMT
Is that happening to all future LTs being refurbished, or is this one being simply tested? It wasn't during refurb, it's standalone install, maybe test for driver feedback LT43 with Go Ahead (Q) was similarly done in 2022 and was shortly afterwards converted back
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Post by cl54 on Jun 21, 2024 5:22:07 GMT
LT246 been converted to mirrorless using the system by Safety Tech Saw it on tiktok just now. Somehow I cannot understand why? Are the LTs not being terminated from service? The buses are a TfL asset and will be used for as long as they want.
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Post by ibus246 on Jun 21, 2024 6:04:54 GMT
Saw it on tiktok just now. Somehow I cannot understand why? Are the LTs not being terminated from service? The buses are a TfL asset and will be used for as long as they want. I.e being TfL here it’s a case of just waste other peoples money as per usual.
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Post by cl54 on Jun 21, 2024 9:15:13 GMT
The buses are a TfL asset and will be used for as long as they want. I.e being TfL here it’s a case of just waste other peoples money as per usual. Getting value out of their previous investment. Hardly wasting money. Replacing them now would waste more money.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 21, 2024 10:41:51 GMT
LT246 been converted to mirrorless using the system by Safety Tech Saw it on tiktok just now. Somehow I cannot understand why? Are the LTs not being terminated from service? Not for a few years yet, some having enough time to do one more contract: 87/N87 - pending award keeping LTs 148 - to be retained keeping LTs H98 - to be retained gaining LTs
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Post by ! ALEED on Jun 21, 2024 11:48:41 GMT
Saw it on tiktok just now. Somehow I cannot understand why? Are the LTs not being terminated from service? Not for a few years yet, some having enough time to do one more contract: 87/N87 - pending award keeping LTs 148 - to be retained keeping LTs H98 - to be retained gaining LTs Along with the 5 and 15
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Post by sam97 on Jun 21, 2024 12:04:18 GMT
Not for a few years yet, some having enough time to do one more contract: 87/N87 - pending award keeping LTs 148 - to be retained keeping LTs H98 - to be retained gaining LTs Along with the 5 and 15 possibly the 55 too
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 21, 2024 12:15:28 GMT
The 55 will certainly do 3 more years but 5 years unless there was a rotation would make the buses a bit too old.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 21, 2024 13:32:47 GMT
The 55 will certainly do 3 more years but 5 years unless there was a rotation would make the buses a bit too old. I wonder if the age rule will apply as these are TfL’s own buses and they can probably adjust the rule if needed. Just out of interest is the age limit actually set in stone is it actually written down so to speak.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 21, 2024 13:42:02 GMT
The 55 will certainly do 3 more years but 5 years unless there was a rotation would make the buses a bit too old. I wonder if the age rule will apply as these are TfL’s own buses and they can probably adjust the rule if needed. Just out of interest is the age limit actually set in stone is it actually written down so to speak. I believe that there was an initial rule, but ever since the throwbacks, short contracts and eventual move to electrics I'd not be shocked if LTs get completely run into the ground to get out the maximum value.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 21, 2024 13:57:56 GMT
The 55 will certainly do 3 more years but 5 years unless there was a rotation would make the buses a bit too old. I wonder if the age rule will apply as these are TfL’s own buses and they can probably adjust the rule if needed. Just out of interest is the age limit actually set in stone is it actually written down so to speak. It seems TfL owned buses are given exceptions on their own rules. There was a time for example when TfL allowed their early euro5 engined LTs within the congestion zone when other bus types had to have euro6 units. This was prior to operators upgrading exhausts on their older buses to meet Central London requirements. Years before that operaters had to have lower-rated engine specs yet a number of TfL's owned VWLs were higher rated
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Post by exbox on Jun 21, 2024 15:31:08 GMT
I wonder if the age rule will apply as these are TfL’s own buses and they can probably adjust the rule if needed. Just out of interest is the age limit actually set in stone is it actually written down so to speak. I believe that there was an initial rule, but ever since the throwbacks, short contracts and eventual move to electrics I'd not be shocked if LTs get completely run into the ground to get out the maximum value. Yes they should get at least another 10 years out of them - but I understand that Wrightbus have stopped manufacturing spare parts, and given how unreliable they seem to be I suspect that they will be quietly retired at the earliest opportunity. As they have no resale value they will be scrapped with one or two being preserved as a warning to future generations.
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