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Post by adl on Jul 12, 2024 15:40:51 GMT
10168 & 19789 running together on route 165, both have upper and lower deck full of passengers from Romford to Dovers Corner, I do wonder when TFL will realise the 10.8m single deckers on the route aren’t coping and leave people behind regularly as even with 3 double deckers on the route the capacity is still not enough.
19789 turner at Rainham, Chandellers Corner however blinded for Rainham, War Memorial as most of the RM fleet have a 2014/2015 blindset which do not include new curtailments for many of their routes.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 12, 2024 19:34:35 GMT
Route D7 (last bus)
86190 - LJ24ZNZ
Route 58
86209 - LJ24ZPE
86210 - LJ24ZPF
86211 - LJ24ZPG
86212 - LJ24ZPH
86213 - LJ24ZPK
86214 - LJ24ZPL
86215 - LJ24ZPM
86216 - LJ24ZPN
86217 - LJ24ZPO
86218 - LJ24ZPP
86219 - LJ24ZPR
86220 - LJ24ZPS
86221 - LJ24ZPT
86222 - LJ24ZPU
86223 - LJ24ZPV
86224 - LJ24ZPW
86225 - LJ24ZPX
Route 277
86191 - LJ24ZPY
86192 - LJ24ZPZ
86193 - LJ24ZRA
86194 - LJ24ZRC
86195 - LJ24ZRD
86196 - LJ24ZRE
86197 - LJ24ZRF
86198 - LJ24ZRG
86199 - LJ24ZRK
86200 - LJ24ZRL
86201 - LJ24ZRN
86202 - LJ24ZRO
86203 - LJ24ZRP
86204 - LJ24ZRR
86205 - LJ24ZRT
86206 - LJ24ZRU
86207 - LJ24ZRV
86208 - LJ24ZRX
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 12, 2024 19:57:58 GMT
Route D7 (last bus) 86190 - LJ24ZNZ Route 58 86209 - LJ24ZPE 86210 - LJ24ZPF 86211 - LJ24ZPG 86212 - LJ24ZPH 86213 - LJ24ZPK 86214 - LJ24ZPL 86215 - LJ24ZPM 86216 - LJ24ZPN 86217 - LJ24ZPO 86218 - LJ24ZPP 86219 - LJ24ZPR 86220 - LJ24ZPS 86221 - LJ24ZPT 86222 - LJ24ZPU 86223 - LJ24ZPV 86224 - LJ24ZPW 86225 - LJ24ZPX Route 277 86191 - LJ24ZPY 86192 - LJ24ZPZ 86193 - LJ24ZRA 86194 - LJ24ZRC 86195 - LJ24ZRD 86196 - LJ24ZRE 86197 - LJ24ZRF 86198 - LJ24ZRG 86199 - LJ24ZRK 86200 - LJ24ZRL 86201 - LJ24ZRN 86202 - LJ24ZRO 86203 - LJ24ZRP 86204 - LJ24ZRR 86205 - LJ24ZRT 86206 - LJ24ZRU 86207 - LJ24ZRV 86208 - LJ24ZRX Ahhh didn’t know those first 9 buses were for the D7, makes sense now only 9 turning up. Particularly cannot wait to see these on the 277, absolutely fantastic vehicles on a fantastic route |
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Post by andyc on Jul 12, 2024 20:54:49 GMT
Route D7 (last bus) 86190 - LJ24ZNZ Route 58 86209 - LJ24ZPE 86210 - LJ24ZPF 86211 - LJ24ZPG 86212 - LJ24ZPH 86213 - LJ24ZPK 86214 - LJ24ZPL 86215 - LJ24ZPM 86216 - LJ24ZPN 86217 - LJ24ZPO 86218 - LJ24ZPP 86219 - LJ24ZPR 86220 - LJ24ZPS 86221 - LJ24ZPT 86222 - LJ24ZPU 86223 - LJ24ZPV 86224 - LJ24ZPW 86225 - LJ24ZPX Route 277 86191 - LJ24ZPY 86192 - LJ24ZPZ 86193 - LJ24ZRA 86194 - LJ24ZRC 86195 - LJ24ZRD 86196 - LJ24ZRE 86197 - LJ24ZRF 86198 - LJ24ZRG 86199 - LJ24ZRK 86200 - LJ24ZRL 86201 - LJ24ZRN 86202 - LJ24ZRO 86203 - LJ24ZRP 86204 - LJ24ZRR 86205 - LJ24ZRT 86206 - LJ24ZRU 86207 - LJ24ZRV 86208 - LJ24ZRX Ahhh didn’t know those first 9 buses were for the D7, makes sense now only 9 turning up. Particularly cannot wait to see these on the 277, absolutely fantastic vehicles on a fantastic route Whilst this was the original batches, they have been reallocated to be: First 17 buses (58), next 10 (D7) last batch (277). There is then one more due for the DD W13 at LI |
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Post by ! ALEED on Jul 12, 2024 21:10:21 GMT
Ahhh didn’t know those first 9 buses were for the D7, makes sense now only 9 turning up. Particularly cannot wait to see these on the 277, absolutely fantastic vehicles on a fantastic route Whilst this was the original batches, they have been reallocated to be: First 17 buses (58), next 10 (D7) last batch (277). There is then one more due for the DD W13 at LI If the 58 is getting 17 buses for a PVR of 18, and the 277 has a PVR of 15 now, as there was a cut of 1 bus, does this mean that 86208 would be allocated to the W13? The registered vehicles for the 277 listed have 18 buses but only require 17, I think! |
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 12, 2024 21:22:45 GMT
Whilst this was the original batches, they have been reallocated to be: First 17 buses (58), next 10 (D7) last batch (277). There is then one more due for the DD W13 at LI If the 58 is getting 17 buses for a PVR of 18, and the 277 has a PVR of 15 now, as there was a cut of 1 bus, does this mean that 86208 would be allocated to the W13? The registered vehicles for the 277 listed have 18 buses but only require 17, I think! The 58 has a PVR of 15, hence its 17 vehicles  |
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Post by WH241 on Jul 12, 2024 21:26:09 GMT
If the 58 is getting 17 buses for a PVR of 18, and the 277 has a PVR of 15 now, as there was a cut of 1 bus, does this mean that 86208 would be allocated to the W13? The registered vehicles for the 277 listed have 18 buses but only require 17, I think! The 58 has a PVR of 15, hence its 17 vehicles And just to add Andy did say another bus is due for the W13. |
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Post by ! ALEED on Jul 12, 2024 21:44:03 GMT
The 58 has a PVR of 15, hence its 17 vehicles And just to add Andy did say another bus is due for the W13. But the 277 also has a PVR of 15 vehicles, so why does it have 18 vehicles for it? I apologise, but I thought that one of the vehicles from the 277 would go to the W13, and that it was simply a spare. I was unable to understand that there was another seperate bus coming in for the W13, I hope it also gets Volvo BZL SDs too! |
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Post by andyc on Jul 12, 2024 21:51:19 GMT
And just to add Andy did say another bus is due for the W13. But the 277 also has a PVR of 15 vehicles, so why does it have 18 vehicles for it? I apologise, but I thought that one of the vehicles from the 277 would go to the W13, and that it was simply a spare. I was unable to understand that there was another seperate bus coming in for the W13, I hope it also gets Volvo BZL SDs too! The 277 requires an 18th bus as a charging spare to ensure that the buses can complete the schedule… 58/D7 are kinder on the batteries, so don’t need that extra one.. although of course the DD W13 can also assist the 58 at other times… |
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Post by ! ALEED on Jul 12, 2024 21:53:22 GMT
But the 277 also has a PVR of 15 vehicles, so why does it have 18 vehicles for it? I apologise, but I thought that one of the vehicles from the 277 would go to the W13, and that it was simply a spare. I was unable to understand that there was another seperate bus coming in for the W13, I hope it also gets Volvo BZL SDs too! The 277 requires an 18th bus as a charging spare to ensure that the buses can complete the schedule… 58/D7 are kinder on the batteries, so don’t need that extra one.. although of course the DD W13 can also assist the 58 at other times… Ah I understand now, thank you for explaining! |
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Post by WH241 on Jul 12, 2024 22:15:38 GMT
But the 277 also has a PVR of 15 vehicles, so why does it have 18 vehicles for it? I apologise, but I thought that one of the vehicles from the 277 would go to the W13, and that it was simply a spare. I was unable to understand that there was another seperate bus coming in for the W13, I hope it also gets Volvo BZL SDs too! The 277 requires an 18th bus as a charging spare to ensure that the buses can complete the schedule… 58/D7 are kinder on the batteries, so don’t need that extra one.. although of course the DD W13 can also assist the 58 at other times… Probably obvious but assuming the W13 bus won’t be solely dedicated to the route and will freely mix with the others on the 58? |
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Post by yunus on Jul 12, 2024 23:32:10 GMT
Unless I am mistaken looking like the N86 is reverting back to diesel buses!
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jul 13, 2024 1:28:50 GMT
Unless I am mistaken looking like the N86 is reverting back to diesel buses! Not really- 3 electrics out on it |
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Post by yunus on Jul 13, 2024 1:34:03 GMT
Unless I am mistaken looking like the N86 is reverting back to diesel buses! Not really- 3 electrics out on it Last night (Thursday) the route operated with 100% Diesel buses. There must be some sort of issue at NS I am thinking? What is odd to me is that not so long ago there has been a 100% EV runout on the route but has changed this week. |
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Post by yunus on Jul 13, 2024 1:58:42 GMT
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