va59
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Post by va59 on Sept 26, 2024 9:10:58 GMT
Trust me most days it is more than just a handful. As I said on the ranting thread there was literally 5 x Hybrids in a row so. In fact there has been a 100% Hybrid run out at night not so long ago. I am assuming other garages allocate the buses differently? If I am not mistaken at BK the 145 is the route allocated Hybrids but personally I have only seen one with my own eyes on the 179 since transferred to BK. Sometimes it can feel weird adapting to all these changes. Not really anything has changed haha just typically T intermixing all their allocations together. So at this point 275 can use anything in the garage. 257 isnt any different and even all T hybrids stray on 55/56. Makes sense as its easier to manage the daily run out probably. On another note with T now having a larger pool of buses with the 20s coming in I would think most diesel strays on 55/56 would now be prevented. There are zero hybrids on the 275 today. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Sept 26, 2024 9:13:01 GMT
Please don’t take offence but I can’t help but feel you are really overplaying this single decker overloading now. The 296 has had single deckers for years now and you seem on a campaign to rid all single decker routes from Romford. I am expecting you to be potentially very disappointed if the 165 reverts to single decker on tender renewal. I’ll just stop posting my observations, I did include the fact I do not use the 296 regularly. The 165 as I said I won’t stop taking things further until it’s a permanent change, I’m very set on that as the route justifies double decks. I didn’t expect to be slammed for asking a simple question on a route I’m not familiar with!! But nowadays people can’t ask a question without being made to look the forum clown. This is exactly the reason I simply observed the forum until a few months ago. But hey as long as you get a kick out of it. EDIT: Just to clarify, I never once said about a full conversion to double decker, I queried what it was like on the off peak and simply said it MAY be a good idea to use any spares NS have on it on the peak. I do remember when it was a double decker until 2001 when it was given the ex-257 Darts and diverted through the drill in Gidea Park. |
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Post by yunus on Sept 26, 2024 9:18:45 GMT
Not really anything has changed haha just typically T intermixing all their allocations together. So at this point 275 can use anything in the garage. 257 isnt any different and even all T hybrids stray on 55/56. Makes sense as its easier to manage the daily run out probably. On another note with T now having a larger pool of buses with the 20s coming in I would think most diesel strays on 55/56 would now be prevented. There are zero hybrids on the 275 today. Not according to LVF. There are a decent amount on as I type. |
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va59
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Post by va59 on Sept 26, 2024 9:26:07 GMT
There are zero hybrids on the 275 today. Not according to LVF. There are a decent amount on as I type. Sorry my mistake, I really wasn't paying attention at all there. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 26, 2024 10:24:12 GMT
One for adl among others possibly: So, I ended up in Havering today for a couple of rides: 165 service is a bit ropey with buses either bunched or having sizeable gaps between them. The RM drivers are a cheery bunch though, a 287 driver helped out a recent recruit in regards to his bus leaking diesel just as he was about to leave Abbey Wood Lane as a 165. 10174 is a very good bus - only sampled from Rainham Tesco to Abbey Wood Lane but had some good movement out of it, would leave most T's quite easily Loadings on the 165 today during off peak were neither quiet nor extremely busy, busiest sections was Abbey Wood Lane to Rainham Tesco & Elm Park to Romford (this was the busiest section) Noticed Stagecoach has an issue with their handrails paint peeling, saw it on several examples - not something I've noticed hugely on Abellio examples, E's or T's in my own area in comparison 346 diversion is nuts - does an entire loop of Upminster Park Estate & Cranham before heading to Upminster and using the old routing by the station to face towards Harold Wood Driver was extremely helpful, pointing out to everyone exactly where the diversion goes whenever someone boarded - top marks to her for information The old 497 section has picked up a little in terms of custom - not to the point where it was anything to shout home about but there were a fair few more making use of it than my last ride I really dislike those grey seats!!! The handrails are peeling as they chose to paint them rather than having them re-powder coated. The powder coating lasts far longer, when Arriva buses are sent for refurb they are re-powder coated. I have noticed loads of E400's at [RM] have this problem where they used paint and it comes off. Very poor prep work. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 26, 2024 10:29:06 GMT
10132 doing the honours of the late trip on route 296 tonight. Shame they aren’t used more in the peaks, I was on a potentially dangerously filled E200 on the 296 earlier with the driver struggling to shut the front doors and a lot of them didn’t alight until Marks Gate & Romford, bus was full from Ilford. Noticed the same/similar from buses going towards Ilford. Not a regular user of the 296 but what are its loadings like in the off peak at the Ilford end, from observation they leave Romford pretty well used. Please don’t take offence but I can’t help but feel you are really overplaying this single decker overloading now. The 296 has had single deckers for years now and you seem on a campaign to rid all single decker routes from Romford. I am expecting you to be potentially very disappointed if the 165 reverts to single decker on tender renewal. I agree and I am up to now still manage to see a ram packed 165. The 296 which I see a lot is never that busy unless it picks up a load of college kids from Barley Lane junction or an offload of people at Newbury Park from the trains. |
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Post by zeremony on Sept 26, 2024 10:52:46 GMT
Are BZLs on the W13 a common occurrence? Was under the assumption that they only ventured out in the evenings and for the school run.
Currently 2/7 are electrics (66042 and 66026) with 86182 used for the morning school extra.
One diesel on the 276.
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Post by MMS2001 on Sept 26, 2024 11:02:27 GMT
Stagecoach has been awarded the new Silvertown Tunnel Bike Shuttle contract and will use existing buses from 323 which will be retrofitted to accommodate cycles
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Post by Leccy86Hybrid on Sept 26, 2024 11:03:38 GMT
Stagecoach have won the Silvertown Cycle Bus.
Starting in Spring 2025 it will use the 323 E200EV’s which will be converted and will start from WH then move to HK.
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Post by yunus on Sept 26, 2024 11:11:55 GMT
Stagecoach have won the Silvertown Cycle Bus. Starting in Spring 2025 it will use the 323 E200EV’s which will be converted and will start from WH then move to HK. Good news but I really thought the 55/56 would be announced in the next tender awards, the waiting game continues... |
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Post by WH241 on Sept 26, 2024 11:20:30 GMT
Stagecoach have won the Silvertown Cycle Bus. Starting in Spring 2025 it will use the 323 E200EV’s which will be converted and will start from WH then move to HK. Good news but I really thought the 55/56 would be announced in the next tender awards, the waiting game continues... The full award has not been published yet. There could be more results. |
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Post by busoccultation on Sept 26, 2024 11:21:09 GMT
Are BZLs on the W13 a common occurrence? Was under the assumption that they only ventured out in the evenings and for the school run. Currently 2/7 are electrics (66042 and 66026) with 86182 used for the morning school extra. One diesel on the 276. That would be the double deck BZL where they are only scheduled for the school run between Leytonstone and Woodford Wells. The single deck BZL are starting to be become common on the W13 and will eventually be the new allocation with more BZL's are on order for the W13 & W14. |
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Post by busboy17 on Sept 26, 2024 11:30:19 GMT
Stagecoach have won the Silvertown Cycle Bus. Starting in Spring 2025 it will use the 323 E200EV’s which will be converted and will start from WH then move to HK. So what will the 323 use? |
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Post by MKAY315 on Sept 26, 2024 13:23:48 GMT
Please don’t take offence but I can’t help but feel you are really overplaying this single decker overloading now. The 296 has had single deckers for years now and you seem on a campaign to rid all single decker routes from Romford. I am expecting you to be potentially very disappointed if the 165 reverts to single decker on tender renewal. I agree and I am up to now still manage to see a ram packed 165. The 296 which I see a lot is never that busy unless it picks up a load of college kids from Barley Lane junction or an offload of people at Newbury Park from the trains. The 296 in it's Harold Wood days was a nightmare to get on. adl if you was around those times when it used to go there believe me the 296 around those days was worse. Now not as much. |
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va59
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Post by va59 on Sept 26, 2024 14:06:17 GMT
Are BZLs on the W13 a common occurrence? Was under the assumption that they only ventured out in the evenings and for the school run. Currently 2/7 are electrics (66042 and 66026) with 86182 used for the morning school extra. One diesel on the 276. That would be the double deck BZL where they are only scheduled for the school run between Leytonstone and Woodford Wells. The single deck BZL are starting to be become common on the W13 and will eventually be the new allocation with more BZL's are on order for the W13 & W14. Gutted the W12 couldn't have those. |
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