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Post by Quoll662 on Jul 17, 2022 17:33:03 GMT
With the withdrawal of 78 at the end of 2022, would it be a stretch or not plausible if they were sent down to TH for partial conversion of 250 and 64 or one route, make TH more hybridised instead of withdrawing the vehicles completely? It would be very unlikely that young hybrids would leave London (the MHV example with GAL was rare) but yes, it would be very plausible that they would convert the 64. By my calculations, if 4 HV's were used on the 133, themselves coming from 243/341 PVR cuts, the remaining HA's could enable the 64 to be retained with a full hybrid allocation. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 17, 2022 17:46:38 GMT
With the withdrawal of 78 at the end of 2022, would it be a stretch or not plausible if they were sent down to TH for partial conversion of 250 and 64 or one route, make TH more hybridised instead of withdrawing the vehicles completely? It would be very unlikely that young hybrids would leave London (the MHV example with GAL was rare) but yes, it would be very plausible that they would convert the 64. By my calculations, if 4 HV's were used on the 133, themselves coming from 243/341 PVR cuts, the remaining HA's could enable the 64 to be retained with a full hybrid allocation. Very unlikely... no. It is entirely up to each firm what they wish to do with redundant buses. Even if they can be used for another route does not mean the firms will retain them for further use. |
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Post by rj131 on Jul 18, 2022 14:03:59 GMT
It would be very unlikely that young hybrids would leave London (the MHV example with GAL was rare) but yes, it would be very plausible that they would convert the 64. By my calculations, if 4 HV's were used on the 133, themselves coming from 243/341 PVR cuts, the remaining HA's could enable the 64 to be retained with a full hybrid allocation. Very unlikely... no. It is entirely up to each firm what they wish to do with redundant buses. Even if they can be used for another route does not mean the firms will retain them for further use. Perfect example of that is GAL sending their hybrid EvoSetis to Manchester! |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 18, 2022 14:13:15 GMT
Very unlikely... no. It is entirely up to each firm what they wish to do with redundant buses. Even if they can be used for another route does not mean the firms will retain them for further use. Perfect example of that is GAL sending their hybrid EvoSetis to Manchester! Didn’t Stagecoach also send some hybrid MMCs off lease recently and some slightly E40H, which ended up in Cornwall, off lease as well. |
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Post by rj131 on Jul 18, 2022 14:19:47 GMT
Perfect example of that is GAL sending their hybrid EvoSetis to Manchester! Didn’t Stagecoach also send some hybrid MMCs off lease recently and some slightly E40H, which ended up in Cornwall, off lease as well. 10199-205 SL64HYZ-ZE went to Plymouth I think but I can’t recall any E40H MMCs going unless I’ve missed it! EDIT: Just checked LVF and no Stagecoach MMCs seemed to have yet left London, permanently anyway. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 18, 2022 14:28:24 GMT
Perfect example of that is GAL sending their hybrid EvoSetis to Manchester! Didn’t Stagecoach also send some hybrid MMCs off lease recently and some slightly E40H, which ended up in Cornwall, off lease as well. Seven 64-reg. ex-Stagecoach London ADL Enviro400s were acquired by Go South West in 2020 as part of the Transport for Cornwall contract, although these are diesels rather than hybrids. They have been converted to single door and the lower deck upseated to 25. Go South West also has eleven 64-reg ex-Go-Ahead London Enviro200s that were displaced from route 100, as well as a couple of 16-reg Enviro200 MMCs; these were also acquired in 2020 for the Transport for Cornwall contract. Go South West continues to operate a number of older ex-Go-Ahead London vehicles in service. Go-Ahead London has invested significantly in electric vehicles so it is not surprising that mid-life buses are being transferred elsewhere in the Go-Ahead empire. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 18, 2022 16:21:32 GMT
Wood Green (WN) looks to be set for a total rebuild. Arriva London's Directors have issued an Employee Notice, which states that the Property Team are developing proposals for the entire Wood Green Garage site. The plan is to rebuild as an all-electric garage, with new facilities for drivers, engineers and office staff. The garage would also make use of the space above by building upwards. Because of the need to consult with stakeholder groups and obtain planning permissions, work is unlikely to commence before the end of 2024. It does mean that routes and drivers will need to relocate to other Arriva sites whilst the rebuilding work takes place (pointless speculating where at this stage, although that won't stop people!). The Employee Notice has been posted on this thread: groups.google.com/g/londonstransport/c/zSWfyUrO3j0 |
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Post by TB123 on Jul 18, 2022 16:37:12 GMT
Wood Green (WN) looks to be set for a total rebuild. Arriva London's Directors have issued an Employee Notice, which states that the Property Team are developing proposals for the entire Wood Green Garage site. The plan is to rebuild as an all-electric garage, with new facilities for drivers, engineers and office staff. The garage would also make use of the space above by building upwards. Because of the need to consult with stakeholder groups and obtain planning permissions, work is unlikely to commence before the end of 2024. It does mean that routes and drivers will need to relocate to other Arriva sites whilst the rebuilding work takes place (pointless speculating where at this stage, although that won't stop people!). The Employee Notice has been posted on this thread: groups.google.com/g/londonstransport/c/zSWfyUrO3j0 I heard whispers about this a while back from fairly good sources and posted it here though was dismissed as BS. Interesting. Any chance of a screen grab of the notice? Link won't work. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 18, 2022 16:39:53 GMT
Wood Green (WN) looks to be set for a total rebuild. Arriva London's Directors have issued an Employee Notice, which states that the Property Team are developing proposals for the entire Wood Green Garage site. The plan is to rebuild as an all-electric garage, with new facilities for drivers, engineers and office staff. The garage would also make use of the space above by building upwards. Because of the need to consult with stakeholder groups and obtain planning permissions, work is unlikely to commence before the end of 2024. It does mean that routes and drivers will need to relocate to other Arriva sites whilst the rebuilding work takes place (pointless speculating where at this stage, although that won't stop people!). The Employee Notice has been posted on this thread: groups.google.com/g/londonstransport/c/zSWfyUrO3j0 I heard whispers about this a while back from fairly good sources and posted it here though was dismissed as BS. Interesting. Any chance of a screen grab of the notice? Link won't work. If you open the first post in the thread (the one without any text) it should work. Otherwise I can cut-and-paste the text, I just wanted to confirm this is an official announcement. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 18, 2022 17:04:27 GMT
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Post by LC67ADU on Jul 18, 2022 17:09:45 GMT
Windows key and print screen button if you are on Windows |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 18, 2022 17:11:28 GMT
Windows key and print screen button if you are on Windows I did that. How do I then post to the forum? I've never done a screenshot before let alone try and post one. |
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Post by LC67ADU on Jul 18, 2022 17:12:37 GMT
Windows key and print screen button if you are on Windows I did that. How do I then post to the forum? Press "Add Attachment" button on top right next to the cog wheel and then select from your computer's files. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 18, 2022 17:15:37 GMT
OK, tried that - I now get a message that the file is too big to upload. I give up! Thank you for trying to help.
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Post by kmkcheng on Jul 18, 2022 17:30:00 GMT
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