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Post by ADH45258 on Sept 19, 2023 18:12:38 GMT
I wonder what the SLSs could replace, I was always thinking about the ENLs from 255 being replaced but maybe that wont happen. Why would 9.7m Streetlites replace 10.2m Enviro200s unless I'm missing something? 9.8m DDEs did replace 10.2m DEs on the 326 However I wonder if this is permanent or not? With the K5's contract being retendered, the 14reg SDEs may not be new enough anymore. The DDEs were often used on the route when allocated to the 470, and would be a good fit for the PVR. DLEs from the 223 could then go to the 440, then releasing DMEs to BT to fully convert the 326? I think it was mentioned there may be issues with electrifying TV, so not sure what else RATP could bid with, and could risk Go Ahead winning the K5. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2023 18:13:31 GMT
Walked past TH and I see no signs of electrical working/infrastructure taking place. Also I didn’t spot any ES’s at the garage. I’m not sure the electric conversion of 64 is taking place anytime soon. I wonder what’s going on with the 417’s conversion It was stated earlier that part of the garage was sectioned off with Beddington being used as an outstation, with Beddington now reverted to a driver training base I would assume that means the works at TH are completed. |
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Post by portman227 on Sept 19, 2023 18:37:03 GMT
Walked past TH and I see no signs of electrical working/infrastructure taking place. Also I didn’t spot any ES’s at the garage. I’m not sure the electric conversion of 64 is taking place anytime soon. I wonder what’s going on with the 417’s conversion It was stated earlier that part of the garage was sectioned off with Beddington being used as an outstation, with Beddington now reverted to a driver training base I would assume that means the works at TH are completed. interesting I didn’t notice the electric workings at the garage, do you know roughly when they should start to enter service? |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Sept 19, 2023 19:03:35 GMT
Why would 9.7m Streetlites replace 10.2m Enviro200s unless I'm missing something? 9.8m DDEs did replace 10.2m DEs on the 326 However I wonder if this is permanent or not? With the K5's contract being retendered, the 14reg SDEs may not be new enough anymore. The DDEs were often used on the route when allocated to the 470, and would be a good fit for the PVR. DLEs from the 223 could then go to the 440, then releasing DMEs to BT to fully convert the 326? I think it was mentioned there may be issues with electrifying TV, so not sure what else RATP could bid with, and could risk Go Ahead winning the K5. The K5 is up for tender?? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2023 19:11:14 GMT
9.8m DDEs did replace 10.2m DEs on the 326 However I wonder if this is permanent or not? With the K5's contract being retendered, the 14reg SDEs may not be new enough anymore. The DDEs were often used on the route when allocated to the 470, and would be a good fit for the PVR. DLEs from the 223 could then go to the 440, then releasing DMEs to BT to fully convert the 326? I think it was mentioned there may be issues with electrifying TV, so not sure what else RATP could bid with, and could risk Go Ahead winning the K5. The K5 is up for tender?? RATP have thrown in more routes, check the RATP Thread for the full list. |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Sept 19, 2023 19:15:24 GMT
9.8m DDEs did replace 10.2m DEs on the 326 However I wonder if this is permanent or not? With the K5's contract being retendered, the 14reg SDEs may not be new enough anymore. The DDEs were often used on the route when allocated to the 470, and would be a good fit for the PVR. DLEs from the 223 could then go to the 440, then releasing DMEs to BT to fully convert the 326? I think it was mentioned there may be issues with electrifying TV, so not sure what else RATP could bid with, and could risk Go Ahead winning the K5. The K5 is up for tender?? Apparently, RATP have thrown in routes 65/N65, 71, 281, 371, 639/670, E1 and K5 to be retendered. Discussion has been happening in the RATP thread. |
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Post by londonbuses on Sept 19, 2023 19:39:10 GMT
could risk Go Ahead winning the K5. I reckon Abellio would be more likely than Go Ahead to win the K5, both TF and BC would be good locations to operate the route from, and it seems like GAL are avoiding routes that use 9m buses because the shortest length BYD/ADL bus available is 9.7m (and even if 9.7m is fine, I believe that SEe's can't run on the K5 due to a very low bridge on Queen Elizabeth Road anyway). |
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Post by cardinal on Sept 19, 2023 19:53:36 GMT
9.8m DDEs did replace 10.2m DEs on the 326 However I wonder if this is permanent or not? With the K5's contract being retendered, the 14reg SDEs may not be new enough anymore. The DDEs were often used on the route when allocated to the 470, and would be a good fit for the PVR. DLEs from the 223 could then go to the 440, then releasing DMEs to BT to fully convert the 326? I think it was mentioned there may be issues with electrifying TV, so not sure what else RATP could bid with, and could risk Go Ahead winning the K5. The K5 is up for tender?? Apparently so , although nothing has been made public. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 19, 2023 22:19:42 GMT
That nearly crippled [LI] as they were losing near £25k per week! They then had to revert the drivers that TUPE transferred to DR24 the normal high paid double deck driver rate instead of the bendy bus rate. I remember the drivers and union then taking First to court over this and losing. Even after they were on DR24 they were still losing but no way as much. IN 2012 I remember many of them wanting Stagecoach to buy the company, only for them to pull out of buying First due to the contract prices and losses, only 10 years later to buy [LI] of then Tower Transit. Weren't Stagecoach lined up to buy all 3 capital garages? NP/DM/LI? From what I remember it was only [DM] and [LI] |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 20, 2023 1:04:58 GMT
Walked past TH and I see no signs of electrical working/infrastructure taking place. Also I didn’t spot any ES’s at the garage. I’m not sure the electric conversion of 64 is taking place anytime soon. I wonder what’s going on with the 417’s conversion I've only seen two Electroliners in the tram shed on Brixton Hill a few weeks ago and over that week, I spotted them several times parked in the exact same spots as if they've not moved at all |
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Post by MCV21 on Sept 20, 2023 1:05:02 GMT
I wonder what the SLSs could replace, I was always thinking about the ENLs from 255 being replaced but maybe that wont happen. The 255’s buses look absolutely horrible, some new electric buses would be a great step forward. My money is on GA (AL) winning the route. |
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 20, 2023 5:34:36 GMT
I wonder what the SLSs could replace, I was always thinking about the ENLs from 255 being replaced but maybe that wont happen. Why would 9.7m Streetlites replace 10.2m Enviro200s unless I'm missing something? SLS1-8 could move to the 318 as ENR Refurb floats  those ENRs are getting run into the ground like Harry Kane at Bayern Munich  |
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Post by busboy17 on Sept 20, 2023 12:21:46 GMT
Could the 450 sls go to the 410 amd it's buses to the 318 to remove the older buses from it?
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Post by cardinal on Sept 20, 2023 16:16:58 GMT
The 255’s buses look absolutely horrible, some new electric buses would be a great step forward. My money is on GA (AL) winning the route. [br Maybe , if AL lose the 131 they’ll be space. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 20, 2023 16:21:14 GMT
Could the 450 sls go to the 410 amd it's buses to the 318 to remove the older buses from it? The 318 already has the ENRs although they are becoming a problem for the 318 |
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those ENRs are getting run into the ground like Harry Kane at Bayern Munich 