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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 6, 2024 17:01:02 GMT
What routes do Arriva have the ability to realistically win in South London within the next year? 37 from BN (I doubt they’ll bid), 45/118 from BN, 68/196/SL6 from N, 127/403 from TC, 415 from N/BN, 434 from TC (I doubt they’ll bid) The 434 is in an all Arriva tranche after all so they may try their luck with a joint bid! I personally wouldn’t mind seeing Arriva on the route, though really hope C retain it. Realistically I can see the 403 going back to TC, don’t think they’ll really be interested in winning the 127 especially when it runs deep into Go-Ahead territory. I’d say that also applied to the 264 but the 264 IMO was easier for them to operate seeing as it started in Croydon Town Centre. |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 6, 2024 17:16:41 GMT
Arriva should go for the 217 when Sullivans hand the route back  they could re-number their E400s DLA390-399 and top the route with ex 279 DW's  |
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Post by COBO on Jun 6, 2024 17:32:08 GMT
Arriva should go for the 217 when Sullivans hand the route back they could re-number their E400s DLA390-399 and top the route with ex 279 DW's Wouldn’t they just be T’s like the T’s on the 279. |
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Post by Dad91 on Jun 6, 2024 20:01:07 GMT
Arriva should go for the 217 when Sullivans hand the route back they could re-number their E400s DLA390-399 and top the route with ex 279 DW's Wouldn’t they just be T’s like the T’s on the 279. Arriva London could win 217 WN Hybrids 298 AD W9 at E |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Jun 6, 2024 20:03:41 GMT
Wouldn’t they just be T’s like the T’s on the 279. Arriva London could win 217 WN Hybrids 298 AD W9 at E If I’m not wrong, E is full. Plus, the fact that 279 is going electric decreases their capacity even more |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 6, 2024 20:14:15 GMT
37 from BN (I doubt they’ll bid), 45/118 from BN, 68/196/SL6 from N, 127/403 from TC, 415 from N/BN, 434 from TC (I doubt they’ll bid) TBH, you could narrow it to just 68, 118, 196, 403 & SL6. I can't see them bidding for the 45 or 127 at all and not sure on the 434 but I doubt it personally I'm guessing when the 45 ran to Telford Ave, London Central used to turn in the garage or just make a u turn then stand outside? |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 6, 2024 21:42:20 GMT
Arriva should go for the 217 when Sullivans hand the route back they could re-number their E400s DLA390-399 and top the route with ex 279 DW's Wouldn’t they just be T’s like the T’s on the 279. These ones are Voith, but I'm sure they will become T's when they transfer with the route to Tottenham  |
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Post by ZiyQ on Jun 6, 2024 22:43:58 GMT
Arriva London could win 217 WN Hybrids 298 AD W9 at E If I’m not wrong, E is full. Plus, the fact that 279 is going electric decreases their capacity even more Though the 349 could return to Stamford Hill garage, now that it has reopened. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 6, 2024 23:32:48 GMT
TBH, you could narrow it to just 68, 118, 196, 403 & SL6. I can't see them bidding for the 45 or 127 at all and not sure on the 434 but I doubt it personally I'm guessing when the 45 ran to Telford Ave, London Central used to turn in the garage or just make a u turn then stand outside? I believe they ran through the garage as this picture shows - londonbusesbyadam.zenfolio.com/p792462061/h42bc4fde#h42bc4fde |
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Post by dace2 on Jun 7, 2024 14:45:07 GMT
Wouldn’t they just be T’s like the T’s on the 279. Arriva London could win 217 WN Hybrids 298 AD W9 at E 217 would be up for tender in 2027. I do see them winning 298 with HAs along with the 231 617/629. |
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Jun 7, 2024 15:53:29 GMT
Arriva London could win 217 WN Hybrids 298 AD W9 at E 217 would be up for tender in 2027. I do see them winning 298 with HAs along with the 231 617/629. I thought the 217 was on a 7 year contract? |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 7, 2024 17:55:28 GMT
217 would be up for tender in 2027. I do see them winning 298 with HAs along with the 231 617/629. I thought the 217 was on a 7 year contract? I wouldn't be surprised if Sullivans end it early. I think there's issues with staffing. Some drivers are way too slow, and others cane the bus at every opportunity on the A10  |
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 7, 2024 21:40:18 GMT
Just wondering if we could get a electrification update, and do not mean UKPN work.
E - Is there any evidence of chargers for the 279, or works under way to install them?
TH - As above, is there any evidence of work for chargers over and above 64/612?
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Jun 7, 2024 21:50:39 GMT
Arriva London could win 217 WN Hybrids 298 AD W9 at E 217 would be up for tender in 2027. I do see them winning 298 with HAs along with the 231 617/629. 217s contract expires in 2029 not 2027. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 8, 2024 6:21:21 GMT
217 would be up for tender in 2027. I do see them winning 298 with HAs along with the 231 617/629. 217s contract expires in 2029 not 2027. However if the contract is surrendered at the break point it could potentially end in 2026. |
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they could re-number their E400s DLA390-399 and top the route with ex 279 DW's 
