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Post by dace2 on Nov 12, 2024 13:40:14 GMT
It would be so cool if Arriva reblind the LTs in Enfield from white to green. I do hope it happens once the Ts are replaced for the 279.
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Post by adl on Nov 12, 2024 13:42:28 GMT
It would be so cool if Arriva reblind the LTs in Enfield from white to green. I do hope it happens once the Ts are replaced for the 279. I highly doubt it, there’s no reason to replace newer blind sets with 10+ year old sets which are not up to date with any changes curtailments or routes. I wouldn’t have them hopes up to much as the chances of it happening are pretty much 0. These blind sets are also in the process of phasing out and we are left with just a handful of buses with them. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 12, 2024 16:30:53 GMT
The only confirmed route to be getting HVs is the 66 at present from a LOTS update but a batch hasn’t been established. It has been assumed the rest of the routes at GY will also recieve HVs but has not been confirmed but is likely. Just to clarify for those who are unaware and have taken speculation as facts we do not have confirmation yet on what will be the hybrid allocation for routes 370, 103, 175 & 150 (From GY/DX) it has been assumed HVs. The SL1s hybrids will be available when it gets it's electrics |
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Post by adl on Nov 12, 2024 16:34:30 GMT
The only confirmed route to be getting HVs is the 66 at present from a LOTS update but a batch hasn’t been established. It has been assumed the rest of the routes at GY will also recieve HVs but has not been confirmed but is likely. Just to clarify for those who are unaware and have taken speculation as facts we do not have confirmation yet on what will be the hybrid allocation for routes 370, 103, 175 & 150 (From GY/DX) it has been assumed HVs. The SL1s hybrids will be available when it gets it's electrics I’m well aware, there will be plenty of hybrids HVs and HAs and HTs in fact further down the line when the electrics arrive for their designated routes there has been no confirmation yet hence why I said people have assumed. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 12, 2024 16:38:24 GMT
The SL1s hybrids will be available when it gets it's electrics I’m well aware, there will be plenty of hybrids HVs and HAs and HTs in fact further down the line when the electrics arrive for their designated routes there has been no confirmation yet hence why I said people have assumed. Oh yes, it's definitely all assumption at this stage. I'm pretty sure there were rumours that the SL1 was due HVs but got HAs instead |
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Post by sam97 on Nov 12, 2024 16:44:40 GMT
The only confirmed route to be getting HVs is the 66 at present from a LOTS update but a batch hasn’t been established. It has been assumed the rest of the routes at GY will also recieve HVs but has not been confirmed but is likely. Just to clarify for those who are unaware and have taken speculation as facts we do not have confirmation yet on what will be the hybrid allocation for routes 370, 103, 175 & 150 (From GY/DX) it has been assumed HVs. The SL1s hybrids will be available when it gets it's electrics True. But we’ve got the 329 to convert as well so I’m guessing the HA’s may go to GY for one of the routes. I can see some HV’s going to WN for the 329 for common fleet. Whereas GY are getting new types introduced so type training would have to take place anyway. |
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Post by adl on Nov 12, 2024 16:48:51 GMT
On the topic of hybrids, albeit older but by next week Arriva will have quite a few Gemini 2 HVs available, the 50 currently has just 4 on route with the remainder of the allocation electric, roughly 6 spare at EC, they still have a couple of unallocated HAs as well, I do hope further work will be available for them. Obviously as well there are a handful of Ts that become free of which I see the pre-WDA (60reg and older) heading for withdrawal but absolutely can see further usage for the 61 reg which I can see finding a temporary home at GY with T213s recent transfer into GY it suggests to me the moves aren’t yet complete but maybe instead of swapping between the 217 and GY they’ll simply move once it’s lost Saturday ousting some DWs, I recon GY will go fully T (217 & 279 batch) then transfer to hybrids later next year as I fear the 196 and SL6 may see whatever hybrids are due for GY as a temporary allocation until electrics arrive and Norwood is able to accommodate EV operation.
It is surprising just how many hybrids will be becoming available over the next year.
8x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 466)
6x Gemini 2 HVs (Edmonton Green Spares)
17x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 50)
30x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 141)
20x Gemini 3 HVs (Route 34)
14x E400 City Hybrids HA(Route SL1)
3x E400 City Hybrids HA (Edmonton Garage Spares)
11x E400 MMC HT (Route 405)
(I may have missed some but I think I’ve got mostly all of them to date here.)
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Post by adl on Nov 12, 2024 16:51:05 GMT
The SL1s hybrids will be available when it gets it's electrics True. But we’ve got the 329 to convert as well so I’m guessing the HA’s may go to GY for one of the routes. I can see some HV’s going to WN for the 329 for common fleet. Whereas GY are getting new types introduced so type training would have to take place anyway. From an assumption basis, I can actually see GY using all HVs (There are enough at AR to cover the entire GY allocation), the 329 in my opinion would use the 66 reg HVs currently residing at AR with the 102 taking up more usage of the 14 reg and then DX split between HA/HV operation as DX already have HAs for the SL2/fully HA should they give the 198 HVs and the HAs from the 198 to DX providing a common fleet of HVs at N (198/2/249 etc) |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 12, 2024 18:17:36 GMT
On the topic of hybrids, albeit older but by next week Arriva will have quite a few Gemini 2 HVs available, the 50 currently has just 4 on route with the remainder of the allocation electric, roughly 6 spare at EC, they still have a couple of unallocated HAs as well, I do hope further work will be available for them. Obviously as well there are a handful of Ts that become free of which I see the pre-WDA (60reg and older) heading for withdrawal but absolutely can see further usage for the 61 reg which I can see finding a temporary home at GY with T213s recent transfer into GY it suggests to me the moves aren’t yet complete but maybe instead of swapping between the 217 and GY they’ll simply move once it’s lost Saturday ousting some DWs, I recon GY will go fully T (217 & 279 batch) then transfer to hybrids later next year as I fear the 196 and SL6 may see whatever hybrids are due for GY as a temporary allocation until electrics arrive and Norwood is able to accommodate EV operation. It is surprising just how many hybrids will be becoming available over the next year. 8x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 466) 6x Gemini 2 HVs (Edmonton Green Spares) 17x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 50) 30x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 141) 20x Gemini 3 HVs (Route 34) 14x E400 City Hybrids HA(Route SL1) 3x E400 City Hybrids HA (Edmonton Garage Spares) 11x E400 MMC HT (Route 405) (I may have missed some but I think I’ve got mostly all of them to date here.) I think your only missing the 243 & 341 HV's but a good summary nonetheless. I can see the 50's HV's being withdrawn for disposal given the majority at BN outside of them have already been disposed of, potentially the same for the 466 batch but less certain on those ones. That still leaves a good amount for potential further use in London |
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Post by ! ALEED on Nov 12, 2024 18:25:05 GMT
On the topic of hybrids, albeit older but by next week Arriva will have quite a few Gemini 2 HVs available, the 50 currently has just 4 on route with the remainder of the allocation electric, roughly 6 spare at EC, they still have a couple of unallocated HAs as well, I do hope further work will be available for them. Obviously as well there are a handful of Ts that become free of which I see the pre-WDA (60reg and older) heading for withdrawal but absolutely can see further usage for the 61 reg which I can see finding a temporary home at GY with T213s recent transfer into GY it suggests to me the moves aren’t yet complete but maybe instead of swapping between the 217 and GY they’ll simply move once it’s lost Saturday ousting some DWs, I recon GY will go fully T (217 & 279 batch) then transfer to hybrids later next year as I fear the 196 and SL6 may see whatever hybrids are due for GY as a temporary allocation until electrics arrive and Norwood is able to accommodate EV operation. It is surprising just how many hybrids will be becoming available over the next year. 8x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 466) 6x Gemini 2 HVs (Edmonton Green Spares) 17x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 50) 30x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 141) 20x Gemini 3 HVs (Route 34) 14x E400 City Hybrids HA(Route SL1) 3x E400 City Hybrids HA (Edmonton Garage Spares) 11x E400 MMC HT (Route 405) (I may have missed some but I think I’ve got mostly all of them to date here.) I think your only missing the 243 & 341 HV's but a good summary nonetheless. I can see the 50's HV's being withdrawn for disposal given the majority at BN outside of them have already been disposed of, potentially the same for the 466 batch but less certain on those ones. That still leaves a good amount for potential further use in London I agree, I can only see the 50's HVs sticking around slightly longer to potentially create a temporary allocation for the 196 and SL6 IF the Enviro 400's do not arrive in time! |
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 12, 2024 18:25:54 GMT
On the topic of hybrids, albeit older but by next week Arriva will have quite a few Gemini 2 HVs available, the 50 currently has just 4 on route with the remainder of the allocation electric, roughly 6 spare at EC, they still have a couple of unallocated HAs as well, I do hope further work will be available for them. Obviously as well there are a handful of Ts that become free of which I see the pre-WDA (60reg and older) heading for withdrawal but absolutely can see further usage for the 61 reg which I can see finding a temporary home at GY with T213s recent transfer into GY it suggests to me the moves aren’t yet complete but maybe instead of swapping between the 217 and GY they’ll simply move once it’s lost Saturday ousting some DWs, I recon GY will go fully T (217 & 279 batch) then transfer to hybrids later next year as I fear the 196 and SL6 may see whatever hybrids are due for GY as a temporary allocation until electrics arrive and Norwood is able to accommodate EV operation. It is surprising just how many hybrids will be becoming available over the next year. 8x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 466) 6x Gemini 2 HVs (Edmonton Green Spares) 17x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 50) 30x Gemini 2 HVs (Route 141) 20x Gemini 3 HVs (Route 34) 14x E400 City Hybrids HA(Route SL1) 3x E400 City Hybrids HA (Edmonton Garage Spares) 11x E400 MMC HT (Route 405) (I may have missed some but I think I’ve got mostly all of them to date here.) I think your only missing the 243 & 341 HV's but a good summary nonetheless. I can see the 50's HV's being withdrawn for disposal given the majority at BN outside of them have already been disposed of, potentially the same for the 466 batch but less certain on those ones. That still leaves a good amount for potential further use in London 3 of them are at N for the foreseeable future until the refurbishments are completed. I wouldn’t be surprised if most are withdrawn or used to cover some existing vehicles refurbishments. |
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 12, 2024 18:28:06 GMT
I think your only missing the 243 & 341 HV's but a good summary nonetheless. I can see the 50's HV's being withdrawn for disposal given the majority at BN outside of them have already been disposed of, potentially the same for the 466 batch but less certain on those ones. That still leaves a good amount for potential further use in London I agree, I can only see the 50's HVs sticking around slightly longer to potentially create a temporary allocation for the 196 and SL6 IF the Enviro 400's do not arrive in time! Overall if these vehicles are required the refurbished HVs with LEDs will probably end up on the 196 and the old bangers shoved on another route… |
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Post by yunus on Nov 12, 2024 18:30:19 GMT
I think your only missing the 243 & 341 HV's but a good summary nonetheless. I can see the 50's HV's being withdrawn for disposal given the majority at BN outside of them have already been disposed of, potentially the same for the 466 batch but less certain on those ones. That still leaves a good amount for potential further use in London 3 of them are at N for the foreseeable future until the refurbishments are completed. I wouldn’t be surprised if most are withdrawn or used to cover some existing vehicles refurbishments. I am personally keen to see if the G2 HVs at EC move elsewhere from Saturday when the 217 transfers to NP. My bet is they will stay for the 158 which will be the sole route running from the garage. |
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 12, 2024 18:37:39 GMT
DW414 could move to AR on Saturday to replace any failed DWs on the 123, (even 210, 216 and 219 as they are pretty quick. AR have had dealings with the quicker 2 series before, I remember DW294 on the 243 for a while... those the last three are highly unlikely.  I assume more of these ex GY DWs will cover rail replacement work... Was DW225 repaired or scrapped after it's bump with DW540? |
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 12, 2024 19:05:00 GMT
I think your only missing the 243 & 341 HV's but a good summary nonetheless. I can see the 50's HV's being withdrawn for disposal given the majority at BN outside of them have already been disposed of, potentially the same for the 466 batch but less certain on those ones. That still leaves a good amount for potential further use in London I agree, I can only see the 50's HVs sticking around slightly longer to potentially create a temporary allocation for the 196 and SL6 IF the Enviro 400's do not arrive in time! Even if the E400EVs are late, I would assume that another batch of new EVs would be in service by then, which could release hybrids for temporary use on the 196/SL6. |
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